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Re: 2018 All Star Game

Postby cl smooth » Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:20 pm

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OleMissCub wrote:
ScrubMD wrote:It's especially glaring when compared to Trout, Betts, and Judge, which is maybe the best outfield of all time.


Slow down there. Many of the All-Star games in the 50’s had an NL outfield of Mays, Aaron, and Musial.


I don't care enough to dig into it, but I imagine the seasons Trout, Betts, and Judge are having would be tough to match, even for those 3.


quickly glancing at baseball reference for 1955:

musial - 6.1 bWAR
mays = 9.1 bWAR
aaron - 6.3 BWAR

or 1957:

musial - 6.1 bWAR
mays - 8.3 bWAR
aaron - 8.0 bWAR

as of today:

trout - 6.9 bWAR
betts - 5.4 bWAR
judge - 5.0 bWAR
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Re: 2018 All Star Game

Postby OleMissCub » Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:39 pm

cl smooth wrote:
ScrubMD wrote:
OleMissCub wrote:
Slow down there. Many of the All-Star games in the 50’s had an NL outfield of Mays, Aaron, and Musial.


I don't care enough to dig into it, but I imagine the seasons Trout, Betts, and Judge are having would be tough to match, even for those 3.


quickly glancing at baseball reference for 1955:

musial - 6.1 bWAR
mays = 9.1 bWAR
aaron - 6.3 BWAR

or 1957:

musial - 6.1 bWAR
mays - 8.3 bWAR
aaron - 8.0 bWAR

as of today:

trout - 6.9 bWAR
betts - 5.4 bWAR
judge - 5.0 bWAR


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Re: 2018 All Star Game

Postby Post Count Padder » Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:06 pm

I'm kinda shocked this is the first all star game for Markakis. He had some great years for the Orioles.
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Re: 2018 All Star Game

Postby OleMissCub » Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:35 pm

Post Count Padder wrote:I'm kinda shocked this is the first all star game for Markakis. He had some great years for the Orioles.


His stats have always been pretty workmanlike; nothing fancy enough to be noticed by All-Star voters. Those late 2000's Orioles teams didn't have too much though, so there might be some slight surprise that he was never sent as the obligatory pick. Looks like the Orioles had obligatory selections in 2008 (George Sherrill) and 2010 (Ty Wiggington).
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Re: 2018 All Star Game

Postby TBS Playoffs Insider » Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:40 pm

OleMissCub wrote:
cl smooth wrote:
ScrubMD wrote:
I don't care enough to dig into it, but I imagine the seasons Trout, Betts, and Judge are having would be tough to match, even for those 3.


quickly glancing at baseball reference for 1955:

musial - 6.1 bWAR
mays = 9.1 bWAR
aaron - 6.3 BWAR

or 1957:

musial - 6.1 bWAR
mays - 8.3 bWAR
aaron - 8.0 bWAR

as of today:

trout - 6.9 bWAR
betts - 5.4 bWAR
judge - 5.0 bWAR


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pretty sure the 55 and 57 are full season lines
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Re: 2018 All Star Game

Postby Ding Dong Johnson » Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:46 pm

TBS Playoffs Insider wrote:
OleMissCub wrote:
cl smooth wrote:
quickly glancing at baseball reference for 1955:

musial - 6.1 bWAR
mays = 9.1 bWAR
aaron - 6.3 BWAR

or 1957:

musial - 6.1 bWAR
mays - 8.3 bWAR
aaron - 8.0 bWAR

as of today:

trout - 6.9 bWAR
betts - 5.4 bWAR
judge - 5.0 bWAR


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pretty sure the 55 and 57 are full season lines

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Re: 2018 All Star Game

Postby Bobson Dugnutt » Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:58 pm

OleMissCub wrote:
Post Count Padder wrote:I'm kinda shocked this is the first all star game for Markakis. He had some great years for the Orioles.

Looks like the Orioles had obligatory selections in 2008 (George Sherrill) and 2010 (Ty Wiggington).


this must be what it's like to be a fan of another team and read "bryan lahair, 2012 all star" cuz who the horsefeathers is george sherrill?
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Re: 2018 All Star Game

Postby Ding Dong Johnson » Mon Jul 09, 2018 4:03 pm

Bobson Dugnutt wrote:
OleMissCub wrote:
Post Count Padder wrote:I'm kinda shocked this is the first all star game for Markakis. He had some great years for the Orioles.

Looks like the Orioles had obligatory selections in 2008 (George Sherrill) and 2010 (Ty Wiggington).


this must be what it's like to be a fan of another team and read "bryan lahair, 2012 all star" cuz who the horsefeathers is george sherrill?

he's one of those randos I actually remember. he had a ridiculous amount of saves in the first half even though he sucked
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Re: 2018 All Star Game

Postby itisallpartoftheplan » Mon Jul 09, 2018 5:02 pm

Bobson Dugnutt wrote:
OleMissCub wrote:
Post Count Padder wrote:I'm kinda shocked this is the first all star game for Markakis. He had some great years for the Orioles.

Looks like the Orioles had obligatory selections in 2008 (George Sherrill) and 2010 (Ty Wiggington).


this must be what it's like to be a fan of another team and read "bryan lahair, 2012 all star" cuz who the horsefeathers is george sherrill?


Lahair also wasn’t a forced entry since Castro made it too. Makes it way more hilarious.
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Re: 2018 All Star Game

Postby OleMissCub » Mon Jul 09, 2018 5:29 pm

TBS Playoffs Insider wrote:
OleMissCub wrote:
cl smooth wrote:
quickly glancing at baseball reference for 1955:

musial - 6.1 bWAR
mays = 9.1 bWAR
aaron - 6.3 BWAR

or 1957:

musial - 6.1 bWAR
mays - 8.3 bWAR
aaron - 8.0 bWAR

as of today:

trout - 6.9 bWAR
betts - 5.4 bWAR
judge - 5.0 bWAR


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pretty sure the 55 and 57 are full season lines


That’s why I put that gif.

These guys are on a pace to pass those legends this season
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Re: 2018 All Star Game

Postby Regular Show » Mon Jul 09, 2018 5:34 pm

Hopefully Baez does something amazing during the All-Star game. Other fanbases don't realize just how special a player he is.

I mean we're not even surprised when he steals home anymore...
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Re: 2018 All Star Game

Postby TBS Playoffs Insider » Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:11 pm

OleMissCub wrote:
TBS Playoffs Insider wrote:
OleMissCub wrote:
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pretty sure the 55 and 57 are full season lines


That’s why I put that gif.

These guys are on a pace to pass those legends this season


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Re: 2018 All Star Game

Postby Rob » Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:19 pm

Regular Show wrote:Hopefully Baez does something amazing during the All-Star game. Other fanbases don't realize just how special a player he is.

I mean we're not even surprised when he steals home anymore...


I think the Giants and the Dodgers kinda get it after the 2016 playoffs.

I will never forget him stealing home against the Dodgers. Maybe my favorite play of all time.
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Re: 2018 All Star Game

Postby ScrubMD » Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:31 pm

Ding Dong Johnson wrote:
Bobson Dugnutt wrote:
OleMissCub wrote:Looks like the Orioles had obligatory selections in 2008 (George Sherrill) and 2010 (Ty Wiggington).


this must be what it's like to be a fan of another team and read "bryan lahair, 2012 all star" cuz who the horsefeathers is george sherrill?

he's one of those randos I actually remember. he had a ridiculous amount of saves in the first half even though he sucked


I recall the Cubs trying to trade for him or people wanting to trade for him or something.
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Re: 2018 All Star Game

Postby mul21 » Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:56 pm

Rob wrote:
Regular Show wrote:Hopefully Baez does something amazing during the All-Star game. Other fanbases don't realize just how special a player he is.

I mean we're not even surprised when he steals home anymore...


I think the Giants and the Dodgers kinda get it after the 2016 playoffs.

I will never forget him stealing home against the Dodgers. Maybe my favorite play of all time.


Agreed. The absolute split second decision to deke like he was going back to the bag to draw the throw and immediately take off for home has to be the most ingenious play I've ever seen on a baseball field and he did it seamlessly.
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Re: 2018 All Star Game

Postby OleMissCub » Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:00 pm

His slide against Toronto was the best “deal with it” slide of all time.

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Re: 2018 All Star Game

Postby Rob » Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:28 pm

ScrubMD wrote:
Ding Dong Johnson wrote:
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this must be what it's like to be a fan of another team and read "bryan lahair, 2012 all star" cuz who the horsefeathers is george sherrill?

he's one of those randos I actually remember. he had a ridiculous amount of saves in the first half even though he sucked


I recall the Cubs trying to trade for him or people wanting to trade for him or something.


Ah yes, the fabled Hendry-MacPhail connection that never materialized into anything worthwhile, but meant that all our trade chatter was constantly about the Orioles.

And then pretty quickly after we hire competent people for the front office, they traded Scott Feldman and Steve Clevenger for Jake Arrieta and Pedro Strop.
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Re: 2018 All Star Game

Postby soccer10k » Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:09 am

OleMissCub wrote:His slide against Toronto was the best “deal with it” slide of all time.

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For sure. That slide is amazing. Just perfect.
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Postby George Hayduke » Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:00 pm

OleMissCub wrote:His slide against Toronto was the best “deal with it” slide of all time.

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Every time this gif gets posted I watch it like 30 times in a row and it just never becomes any less majestic.
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Re: 2018 All Star Game

Postby Guancous » Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:03 pm

I’m heading to the Futures Game. Remind me to post my notes.
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Re: 2018 All Star Game

Postby PackLandVA » Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:39 am

Lester slated to pitch Sunday per Cubs.com. Guess that means he can't pitch in the ASG, right?
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Postby Andy » Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:56 pm

PackLandVA wrote:Lester slated to pitch Sunday per Cubs.com. Guess that means he can't pitch in the ASG, right?

Correct.
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Weird that it’s 7 NL players and 1 AL player. I saw Jose Ramirez declined. Probably a few others too.
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Re: 2018 All Star Game

Postby PackLandVA » Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:47 am

Andy wrote:
PackLandVA wrote:Lester slated to pitch Sunday per Cubs.com. Guess that means he can't pitch in the ASG, right?

Correct.


Good! Allows Joe to set up rotation the way he wants for the 5 game set against the Cards.
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