Non-prospect that had the best MLB career?

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Non-prospect that had the best MLB career?

Postby chopsx9 » Sat Jul 28, 2018 1:10 am

This popped into my head today? So not low draft pick, but the player who had a relatively pedestrian minor league career but ended up with the best MLB career. Was Zobrist rated highly in the minors?
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Postby jersey cubs fan » Sat Jul 28, 2018 1:17 am

chopsx9 wrote:This popped into my head today? So not low draft pick, but the player who had a relatively pedestrian minor league career but ended up with the best MLB career. Was Zobrist rated highly in the minors?

Mike piazza had was drafted late and had 2 pedestrian years before one breakout year and hall of fame career.
Wasn't too 100 until after MLB debut
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Postby Bertz » Sat Jul 28, 2018 1:27 am

Robinson Cano is pretty high up there.
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Postby CubInOK » Sat Jul 28, 2018 3:24 am

Albert Pujols.
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Postby Derwood » Sat Jul 28, 2018 3:43 am

CubInOK wrote:Albert Pujols.


His one year in the minors was pretty damn good
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Postby OleMissCub » Sat Jul 28, 2018 3:59 am

Mark Grace was a 24th round pick.

I feel like the best answer is probably Piazza.
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Postby Splendid Splinter » Sat Jul 28, 2018 4:33 am

CubInOK wrote:Albert Pujols.


Thought about him, but iirc, he was considered a top 50 prospect pre-2001 season by someone.
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Postby chopsx9 » Sat Jul 28, 2018 4:42 am

OleMissCub wrote:Mark Grace was a 24th round pick.

I feel like the best answer is probably Piazza.


Yes, but Grace was considered a highish prospect, I believe, a few years before he made the Cubs. I was thinking of someone who may have flown under the radar throughout their minor league career - which I guess is tough because you have to play well enough to get called up. It may well be Piazza -I know he was drafted last but I'd assumed he'd made a bigger splash in the minors.
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Postby CoolHandLuke » Sat Jul 28, 2018 4:48 am

Among the WAR top ten leaderboard from 2013 (arbitrary) to present is Josh Donaldson, Jose Altuve, Paul Goldschmidt, and Matt Carpenter, and none of them made it onto a BP top 101 list.
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Postby champaignchris » Sat Jul 28, 2018 5:27 am

Josh Donaldson was the first name to come to my mind.

He was the 48th pick of the draft. But he had a pedestrian minor league career, was never a top 100 ranked prospect, was a deadline deal throw-in with three other guys as an A-baller, and didn’t become a Major League regular until age 26.
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Postby CubinNY » Mon Jul 30, 2018 1:57 am

chopsx9 wrote:
OleMissCub wrote:Mark Grace was a 24th round pick.

I feel like the best answer is probably Piazza.


Yes, but Grace was considered a highish prospect, I believe, a few years before he made the Cubs. I was thinking of someone who may have flown under the radar throughout their minor league career - which I guess is tough because you have to play well enough to get called up. It may well be Piazza -I know he was drafted last but I'd assumed he'd made a bigger splash in the minors.

Big Papi, but he wasn’t drafted.
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Postby mul21 » Mon Jul 30, 2018 3:55 pm

Matt Carpenter seems like a solid answer.
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Postby TBS Playoffs Insider » Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:52 pm

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Postby UMFan83 » Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:57 pm

There was a recent BA article on how they scouted this years all stars when they were prospects. Altuve was never rated higher than the Astros #28 prospect and was highlighted for his defense only in the scouting report.
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Postby The Logan » Mon Jul 30, 2018 5:58 pm

Yeah Altuve raked in the minors but was never taken seriously because of his size, if I recall.
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Postby TomtheBombadil » Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:25 am

champaignchris wrote:Josh Donaldson was the first name to come to my mind.

He was the 48th pick of the draft. But he had a pedestrian minor league career, was never a top 100 ranked prospect, was a deadline deal throw-in with three other guys as an A-baller, and didn’t become a Major League regular until age 26.


Lotta people liked Donaldson's bat even when he was catching actually, just didn't seem to have a position and wouldn't find one until his mid-20s.

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Tim Hudson for pitchers? 35th round pick, shorter RHSP...
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champaignchris wrote:Josh Donaldson was the first name to come to my mind.

He was the 48th pick of the draft. But he had a pedestrian minor league career, was never a top 100 ranked prospect, was a deadline deal throw-in with three other guys as an A-baller, and didn’t become a Major League regular until age 26.


Lotta people liked Donaldson's bat even when he was catching actually, just didn't seem to have a position and wouldn't find one until his mid-20s.

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Tim Hudson for pitchers? 35th round pick, shorter RHSP...


tim hudson seems like exactly the kinda pitcher you would obsess over and drive everyone nuts about
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Postby jersey cubs fan » Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:40 am

The answer was mike piazza full stop
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Postby TomtheBombadil » Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:42 am

TBS Playoffs Insider wrote:tim hudson seems like exactly the kinda pitcher you would obsess over and drive everyone nuts about


I can only assume this is a compliment towards my excellent taste as Hudson was a badass pitcher.
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Postby sneakypower » Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:19 pm

in the last calendar year Jose Ramirez has 99 XBH and 72 K, pushing 10 WAR so i'll say him

similarly, in that span JD Martinez has 56 HR & 142 RBI
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Postby The Logan » Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:43 pm

I should enjoy Jose Ramirez and his rise to elite status as a fan of baseball, but I kinda hate how good he is. Lindor being great is fine, that was to be expected. But to have Ramirez come out of nowhere and be putting up results that are making Trout look human is horsefeathering annoying as horsefeathers.
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Re: Non-prospect that had the best MLB career?

Postby chopsx9 » Wed Aug 01, 2018 10:14 pm

What about Sandberg? His minor league stats were decent/ok. Did they have a top 100 prospects list back then?
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Postby jersey cubs fan » Wed Aug 01, 2018 10:21 pm

chopsx9 wrote:What about Sandberg? His minor league stats were decent/ok. Did they have a top 100 prospects list back then?

this one talks about how good of a prospect he was.

https://www.thegoodphight.com/2012/1/19 ... ways-heard
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Postby chopsx9 » Thu Aug 02, 2018 4:19 am

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chopsx9 wrote:What about Sandberg? His minor league stats were decent/ok. Did they have a top 100 prospects list back then?

this one talks about how good of a prospect he was.

https://www.thegoodphight.com/2012/1/19 ... ways-heard


That's a good read. Thanks for posting it.
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