2016 Cardinals ZiPS

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Re: 2016 Cardinals ZiPS

Postby RammyFanny » Sun Jan 24, 2016 1:52 pm

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Duke Silver wrote:Confirmed Cardinals fan.


Ok? I guess I purchased an authentic Mark Prior jersey, as well as t-shirt Zambrano and Lee

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Re: 2016 Cardinals ZiPS

Postby Tim » Sun Jan 24, 2016 2:46 pm

StylesClash wrote:
Duke Silver wrote:Confirmed Cardinals fan.


Ok? I guess I purchased an authentic Mark Prior jersey, as well as t-shirt Zambrano and Lee jersey's for the heck of it. Just because I don't drink Cub koolaid on every issue doesn't make me a Cardinal fan. The lineup will likely be the NL's best. The bullpen should be just fine. I'm just nervous about an old rotation with a lot of mileage/consistency issues.

But you express fears that theirs has nothing but upside. Meanwhile:

- Wainwright just came off a completely lost season (and is over 30 with a lot of mileage on his arm)
- Martinez was shut down with a shoulder injury to end the year
- Garcia is among the most fragile pitchers in baseball
- Leake is fine as a league average innings eater, but is nothing more
- Wacha was unraveling at the end of last year

I like their rotation, but you can play that same game with every pitching staff in baseball.
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Re: 2016 Cardinals ZiPS

Postby The Logan » Sun Jan 24, 2016 3:56 pm

I also like to think Arrieta will be fine because he's always been physically capable of handling 225+ innings, he just really sucked before 2014 so he never got the chance.
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Re: 2016 Cardinals ZiPS

Postby Duke Silver » Sun Jan 24, 2016 4:20 pm

Tim wrote:
StylesClash wrote:
Duke Silver wrote:Confirmed Cardinals fan.


Ok? I guess I purchased an authentic Mark Prior jersey, as well as t-shirt Zambrano and Lee jersey's for the heck of it. Just because I don't drink Cub koolaid on every issue doesn't make me a Cardinal fan. The lineup will likely be the NL's best. The bullpen should be just fine. I'm just nervous about an old rotation with a lot of mileage/consistency issues.

But you express fears that theirs has nothing but upside. Meanwhile:

- Wainwright just came off a completely lost season (and is over 30 with a lot of mileage on his arm)
- Martinez was shut down with a shoulder injury to end the year
- Garcia is among the most fragile pitchers in baseball
- Leake is fine as a league average innings eater, but is nothing more
- Wacha was unraveling at the end of last year

I like their rotation, but you can play that same game with every pitching staff in baseball.


Yeah, our pitching rotation makes me nervous in the sense that every pitching rotation makes me nervous. Nothing more.
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Re: 2016 Cardinals ZiPS

Postby Sammy Sofa » Sun Jan 24, 2016 10:25 pm

RammyFanny wrote:
StylesClash wrote:
Duke Silver wrote:Confirmed Cardinals fan.


Ok? I guess I purchased an authentic Mark Prior jersey, as well as t-shirt Zambrano and Lee

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Hahahahahaah!

This dude has such weird, randomly specific "proof" that he's a Cubs fan.
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Re: 2016 Cardinals ZiPS

Postby The_Achiever » Sun Jan 24, 2016 10:30 pm

The true test to see if anyone is a real cardinal fan is to ask them if they think Randal Grichuk should have been the NLROY.
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Re: 2016 Cardinals ZiPS

Postby David » Tue Jan 26, 2016 7:16 pm

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The Cubs’ transaction list under Epstein and Hoyer reads like a work of fiction, a wish-fulfillment list composed in hindsight.

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Re: 2016 Cardinals ZiPS

Postby Agony and Ivy » Thu Feb 11, 2016 6:12 pm

Oh, I'm not a Cubs fan? Would I still have my 1990 Donruss Vance Law card if I was a Cardinal fan?
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