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General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby David » Thu Jan 21, 2016 2:42 pm

If there MUST be the occasional megathread, down with musings, up with chit chat

So today while I was driving in to work, they were talking about this, from Dave Cameron's chat, on the Score:


Gila Monster: If you can buy Rodon as a #2 starter and have a bit of hope for Lawrie, aren’t the White Sox quite decent? If they signed Cespedes, they really wouldn’t have that many scrubs.

Dave Cameron: The back of their rotation sucks. They don’t have a shortstop. If they sign Cespedes, they aren’t starting Garcia, who also stinks, but that’s a big if. They’re still a very weak team at the bottom of their roster.


http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/dave-cam ... hat-12016/

Then some lunatic calls in 5 minutes later talking about how he almost drove off the road when they were saying this (they replied that they were just reading what Dave Cameron said), and how he'd definitely take the Sox pitching over the Cubs. Lester and Lackey are old and will break down at the end "just like they were last year" and Arrieta had a horseshoe up his butt last year. They stopped him and asked him if he wouldn't take Arrieta, to which he first responded that he would never in a million years take him over Sale. They said they weren't asking about Sale, but would he take Arrieta on the Sox staff. Then he replied that, sure, he'd take him, but he'd be their 4th starter because he doesn't have a wipeout pitch like Rondon and Arrieta has never been as good as Quintana long term (or something like that).

He also said the Cubs might not be that good because if you look at the back of their players' baseball cards, there's only one year, and Josh Phegley had a good year once too.

I just wanted to share this.
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Threat

Postby jersey cubs fan » Thu Jan 21, 2016 2:44 pm

is that a threat?
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Threat

Postby rocket » Thu Jan 21, 2016 2:57 pm

i'll tell you who's an attractive man. george will.
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Threat

Postby David » Thu Jan 21, 2016 2:59 pm

jersey cubs fan wrote:is that a threat?


stupid fingers
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Postby SouthSideRyan » Thu Jan 21, 2016 4:34 pm

rocket wrote:i'll tell you who's an attractive man. george will.


He's smart...
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby sneakypower » Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:02 pm

and Mendy never again was able to know what a true strike zone would look like
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby NonProfitCow » Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:27 pm

Bryce Harper 2016 ZiPS
.311 .431 .592 1.023
#1 Comp - Ted Williams
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby NonProfitCow » Tue Jan 26, 2016 5:06 am

Really nothing?

Ted horsefeathering Williams is his #1 comp you guys.
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby NonProfitCow » Tue Jan 26, 2016 5:07 am

Gonna be awesome when the Cardinals sign him.
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby Sammy Sofa » Tue Jan 26, 2016 5:11 am

NonProfitCow wrote:Gonna be awesome when the Cardinals sign him.


The Cardinals are never signing anyone awesome ever again.
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby bukie » Tue Jan 26, 2016 5:12 am

NonProfitCow wrote:Bryce Harper 2016 ZiPS
.311 .431 .592 1.023
#1 Comp - Ted Williams

I really wish the Cubs had bought "low" on Harper last year when he was disgruntled and the Nats thought he wasn't worth the trouble.
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby seanimal » Tue Jan 26, 2016 5:24 am

NonProfitCow wrote:Gonna be awesome when the Cardinals sign him.


ted williams?
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby NonProfitCow » Tue Jan 26, 2016 5:31 am

Sammy Sofa wrote:
NonProfitCow wrote:Gonna be awesome when the Cardinals sign him.


The Cardinals are never signing anyone awesome ever again.

You're just hating because they signed Carlos Peguero
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby Cubswin11 » Tue Jan 26, 2016 6:22 am

NonProfitCow wrote:Really nothing?

Ted [expletive] Williams is his #1 comp you guys.

Bryce Harper is Ted Williams #1 comp, not the other way around.
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby XZero77 » Tue Jan 26, 2016 7:18 am

Sammy Sofa wrote:
NonProfitCow wrote:Gonna be awesome when the Cardinals sign him.


The Cardinals are never signing anyone awesome ever again.


But when that great 2018 FA class comes up, they're gonna be the runner-up on like half those guys.
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby RammyFanny » Tue Jan 26, 2016 11:23 am

NonProfitCow wrote:Gonna be awesome when the Cardinals trade for him in his walk year and then he signs with us after we demolish him in the playoffs therefore showing him how awesome we are.

Fixed.
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby StylesClash » Wed Jan 27, 2016 12:49 pm

Is there a listing of the top players in terms of BABIP in 2015? With the talk of how much Piscotty and Grichuk benefited from well above average BABIP I'm curious where they rank.

Also I noticed Alex Reyes, of the Cardinals, ranked number three on MLB.com's top RHP listing. With Reyes' 50 game suspension what would everyone suspect would be a realistic time period for him to be promoted to the bigs? With Garcia and Martinez being above average injury risks I'm curious when Reyes, at the earliest, would be ready to step in should an injury occur in the rotation.
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby Thurman Merman » Wed Jan 27, 2016 1:47 pm

StylesClash wrote:Is there a listing of the top players in terms of BABIP in 2015? With the talk of how much Piscotty and Grichuk benefited from well above average BABIP I'm curious where they rank.

Also I noticed Alex Reyes, of the Cardinals, ranked number three on MLB.com's top RHP listing. With Reyes' 50 game suspension what would everyone suspect would be a realistic time period for him to be promoted to the bigs? With Garcia and Martinez being above average injury risks I'm curious when Reyes, at the earliest, would be ready to step in should an injury occur in the rotation.


Im thinking some time after game 50.

But if you want a better answer than that, perhaps you should go ask your fellow fans over at GRB.
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby StylesClash » Wed Jan 27, 2016 2:16 pm

Thurman Merman wrote:
StylesClash wrote:Is there a listing of the top players in terms of BABIP in 2015? With the talk of how much Piscotty and Grichuk benefited from well above average BABIP I'm curious where they rank.

Also I noticed Alex Reyes, of the Cardinals, ranked number three on MLB.com's top RHP listing. With Reyes' 50 game suspension what would everyone suspect would be a realistic time period for him to be promoted to the bigs? With Garcia and Martinez being above average injury risks I'm curious when Reyes, at the earliest, would be ready to step in should an injury occur in the rotation.


Im thinking some time after game 50.

But if you want a better answer than that, perhaps you should go ask your fellow fans over at GRB.


"Some time after game 50"? That's quite the analysis, sir. Shame on me for thinking that a reply would speculate how many minor league innings or starts would be needed before serious consideration would be given for a promotion. I think it's time that you take over Ron Darlings slot on the MLB Network. Your knowledge and perspective clearly warrants it.
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Postby RammyFanny » Wed Jan 27, 2016 2:31 pm

StylesClash wrote:Is there a listing of the top players in terms of BABIP in 2015? With the talk of how much Piscotty and Grichuk benefited from well above average BABIP I'm curious where they rank.


Piscotty 9th and Grichuk 16th out of 311 players. I had to put the minimum PA at 250 since neither of them had enough PA to qualify on the normal list.
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby StylesClash » Wed Jan 27, 2016 2:39 pm

RammyFanny wrote:
StylesClash wrote:Is there a listing of the top players in terms of BABIP in 2015? With the talk of how much Piscotty and Grichuk benefited from well above average BABIP I'm curious where they rank.


Piscotty 9th and Grichuk 16th out of 311 players. I had to put the minimum PA at 250 since neither of them had enough PA to qualify on the normal list.


Thanks for the legit reply. The reason why I'm asking so many Cardinal questions is that I'm considering betting a rather large amount on the Cubs to win the Central. And with the Bucs losing Burnett and Happ the Cards are the only likely team to threaten that bet. So I'm just looking to learn as much about the Cardinals in terms of possible player declines and minor league impact promotions.

Also could you please give the link where you found the BABIP listing?
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Postby Sammy Sofa » Wed Jan 27, 2016 2:44 pm

StylesClash wrote:The reason why I'm asking so many Cardinal questions is that I'm considering betting a rather large amount on the Cubs to win the Central. And with the Bucs losing Burnett and Happ the Cards are the only likely team to threaten that bet. So I'm just looking to learn as much about the Cardinals in terms of possible player declines and minor league impact promotions.


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Wouldn't it make more sense in this totally not made up scenario to be asking about the Cardinals on a Cardinals message board? Or are you inexplicably asking them about the Cubs?
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby Thurman Merman » Wed Jan 27, 2016 2:47 pm

StylesClash wrote:
Thurman Merman wrote:
StylesClash wrote:Is there a listing of the top players in terms of BABIP in 2015? With the talk of how much Piscotty and Grichuk benefited from well above average BABIP I'm curious where they rank.

Also I noticed Alex Reyes, of the Cardinals, ranked number three on MLB.com's top RHP listing. With Reyes' 50 game suspension what would everyone suspect would be a realistic time period for him to be promoted to the bigs? With Garcia and Martinez being above average injury risks I'm curious when Reyes, at the earliest, would be ready to step in should an injury occur in the rotation.


Im thinking some time after game 50.

But if you want a better answer than that, perhaps you should go ask your fellow fans over at GRB.


"Some time after game 50"? That's quite the analysis, sir. Shame on me for thinking that a reply would speculate how many minor league innings or starts would be needed before serious consideration would be given for a promotion. I think it's time that you take over Ron Darlings slot on the MLB Network. Your knowledge and perspective clearly warrants it.


I was just being cheeky...no need to get all "BFIB" on me.
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