General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:02 am

jersey cubs fan wrote:
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David Cone would check the ex-player box and is both open minded and good in the booth. He’d be great in this setting.

He also likes having women watch while jerking off in the bullpen


I was unaware he was Louis CK.
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Postby JudasIscariotTheBird » Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:50 pm

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Postby champaignchris » Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:07 pm



I’m pretty sure that’s what Don Mattingly was actually saying.
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby TomtheBombadil » Thu Nov 01, 2018 6:17 pm

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Some [expletive] not one of those is a Cubs jersey
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Postby Andy » Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:14 pm

I love that costume plan, and it was very shrewd of Beltran to go Puerto Rico rather than pick any of his employers.
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby Banedon » Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:50 pm

TomtheBombadil wrote:
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Some [expletive] not one of those is a Cubs jersey


Hilarious that none of them are Cardinal jerseys.
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby NonProfitCow » Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:27 pm

Banedon wrote:Hilarious that none of them are Cardinal jerseys.

I thought the dog he's holding is in a Cards jersey.
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Postby Banedon » Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:37 am

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Banedon wrote:Hilarious that none of them are Cardinal jerseys.

I thought the dog he's holding is in a Cards jersey.


Yeah I guess that must be what that one is. Darn.
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Postby NonProfitCow » Mon Nov 05, 2018 11:15 pm

Regular Show wrote:

That's pretty good.

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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby Regular Show » Mon Nov 05, 2018 11:17 pm

NonProfitCow wrote:
Regular Show wrote:

That's pretty good.



I'm sure Dr. Jazayerli is not happy about this development lol.
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Postby Regular Show » Mon Nov 05, 2018 11:49 pm



Well, this news sucks for Royals fans.
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby chopsx9 » Tue Nov 06, 2018 12:58 am

CaliforniaRaisin wrote:
jersey cubs fan wrote:
CaliforniaRaisin wrote:
David Cone would check the ex-player box and is both open minded and good in the booth. He’d be great in this setting.

He also likes having women watch while jerking off in the bullpen


I was unaware he was Louis CK.


It's the other way around.
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Postby JudasIscariotTheBird » Tue Nov 06, 2018 3:05 am

chopsx9 wrote:
CaliforniaRaisin wrote:
jersey cubs fan wrote:He also likes having women watch while jerking off in the bullpen


I was unaware he was Louis CK.


It's the other way around.

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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby TomtheBombadil » Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:14 am

^ Boooooooo


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This was a pretty cool read from MLBTR:

Cole Hamels‘ success after being acquired by the Cubs has helped push the Rangers to re-evaluate their analytical practices, writes Jeff Wilson of the Fort Worth Star-Telegram. General manager Jon Daniels acknowledged that he talked to Hamels himself about the post-trade improvements and explained to Wilson that the organization will make some additions to get back up to speed in terms of data utilization. “There’s probably five or eight clubs that are ahead of the rest of the industry in certain areas,” said Daniels. “We’ve been in that group before, and we are in certain areas, but on the R&D side we’re not. That’s an area we’re going to look to improve.” As Wilson points out, it’s perhaps no surprise that the Rangers’ two biggest hires of the offseason — manager Chris Woodward and assistant general manager Shiraz Rehman — came from industry leaders in that regard. Woodward was the Dodgers’ third base coach, while Rehman was plucked from the Cubs’ front office.
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby Bull » Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:50 pm

TomtheBombadil wrote:^ Boooooooo


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This was a pretty cool read from MLBTR:

Cole Hamels‘ success after being acquired by the Cubs has helped push the Rangers to re-evaluate their analytical practices, writes Jeff Wilson of the Fort Worth Star-Telegram. General manager Jon Daniels acknowledged that he talked to Hamels himself about the post-trade improvements and explained to Wilson that the organization will make some additions to get back up to speed in terms of data utilization. “There’s probably five or eight clubs that are ahead of the rest of the industry in certain areas,” said Daniels. “We’ve been in that group before, and we are in certain areas, but on the R&D side we’re not. That’s an area we’re going to look to improve.” As Wilson points out, it’s perhaps no surprise that the Rangers’ two biggest hires of the offseason — manager Chris Woodward and assistant general manager Shiraz Rehman — came from industry leaders in that regard. Woodward was the Dodgers’ third base coach, while Rehman was plucked from the Cubs’ front office.


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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby NonProfitCow » Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:57 pm

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Postby Brian » Mon Nov 12, 2018 3:29 pm

time to file tampering charges
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Postby TruffleShuffle » Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:10 am

i fell into an internet wormhole today and ended up reading through some FireJoeMorgan stuff, and i stumbled across this proposed trade from a twins' beat writer during the offseason following the 2007 season.

Red Sox Get:

Johan Santana
Joe Nathan
Carlos Silva

Twins Get:

Jacoby Ellsbury
Dustin Pedroia
Jonathan Papelbon
Jon Lester
Clay Buchholz


now, they goofed on the trade proposal for how bad it was, and also because carlos silva was a free agent and therefore not eligible to be traded. but the other reason it was so laughable was because there was one more year of team control of santana and nathan, versus 23 of the five red sox players. plus this wasn't a proposal of grabbing random red sox prospects - papelbon was their closer and was a 2-time all star at age 26, buchholz had a promising start to his major league career and a couple of months later would be named a top 5 prospect in baseball by both BA and BP, ellsbury was a top 20 prospect coming into 2007 and had hit for .353/.394/.509/.902 in his rookie season (albeit in about 150 plate appearances, but still, he looked extremely promising), lester had debuted in 2006, missed part of the 2007 season due to lymphoma treatments, but ultimately had started in and picked up the win in the red sox' world series-clinching victory (and clearly was a part of their long-term future and their 2008 starting rotation), and pedroia had just won american league rookie of the year as a 4-win player at age 23.

anyway, since that trade proposal the players posted the following WARs:

johan santana: 15.3
joe nathan: 11.2
carlos silva: -0.9
Total: 25.6

jacoby ellsbury: 30.5
dustin pedroia: 49.0
jonathan papelbon: 14.4
jon lester: 42.2
clay buchholz: 17.3
Total: 153.6


anyway, it's kind of incredible that a newspaper or team would hire a beat writer who would publish such an obviously laughable trade proposal (this is the type of thing that you'd expect from ESPN message board posters, not professional baseball writers), and also amazing that as bad as lopsided as the proposal appeared at the time, it actually ended up being worse than one would have expected, since santana only had a couple of very good years left in him, and all of the red sox players ended up having lengthy careers that ranged from very good to great.
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Postby The Logan » Wed Nov 14, 2018 4:59 pm

To be fair, Johan Santana, at the time, was on the block with the assumption whoever he got traded to he would sign an extension with and he was also on a 5-year run as the best pitcher in baseball that, since 2000, I think only Kershaw has bested and Kluber has come up a smidge short of matching. Santana was pitching Jesus.

But yeah, that offer is garbage
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Postby soccer10k » Wed Nov 14, 2018 7:09 pm

Was looking up deGrom’s numbers and saw he had a 1.98 FIP. So I looked up who had the lowest ever and it was Christy Mathewson in 1908 at 1.26. Out of the top 17, only one was after 1910. It was 1999 Pedro at 1.39. Next best post 1910 was Doc Gooden in 1984 at 1.69. As if we needed more proof that Pedro was insanely good.
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Postby TruffleShuffle » Thu Nov 15, 2018 12:07 am

soccer10k wrote:Was looking up deGrom’s numbers and saw he had a 1.98 FIP. So I looked up who had the lowest ever and it was Christy Mathewson in 1908 at 1.26. Out of the top 17, only one was after 1910. It was 1999 Pedro at 1.39. Next best post 1910 was Doc Gooden in 1984 at 1.69. As if we needed more proof that Pedro was insanely good.

late 90s/early 00s pedro was the closest thing i can remember to a starting pitcher who you'd tune in just to watch pitch.
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Postby David » Thu Nov 15, 2018 12:21 am

TruffleShuffle wrote:
soccer10k wrote:Was looking up deGrom’s numbers and saw he had a 1.98 FIP. So I looked up who had the lowest ever and it was Christy Mathewson in 1908 at 1.26. Out of the top 17, only one was after 1910. It was 1999 Pedro at 1.39. Next best post 1910 was Doc Gooden in 1984 at 1.69. As if we needed more proof that Pedro was insanely good.

late 90s/early 00s pedro was the closest thing i can remember to a starting pitcher who you'd tune in just to watch pitch.


Huh. I've had plenty of those.
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Postby Backtobanks » Thu Nov 15, 2018 12:49 am

soccer10k wrote:Was looking up deGrom’s numbers and saw he had a 1.98 FIP. So I looked up who had the lowest ever and it was Christy Mathewson in 1908 at 1.26. Out of the top 17, only one was after 1910. It was 1999 Pedro at 1.39. Next best post 1910 was Doc Gooden in 1984 at 1.69. As if we needed more proof that Pedro was insanely good.


What about Gibson in 1968?
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