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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby Derwood » Fri Apr 26, 2019 10:46 pm

He'll drop that baby fat any day now
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby weis21 » Sat Apr 27, 2019 12:43 am

Derwood wrote:He'll drop that baby fat any day now

Does he need to?
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby Derwood » Sat Apr 27, 2019 12:54 am

weis21 wrote:
Derwood wrote:He'll drop that baby fat any day now

Does he need to?


We'll see. He could end up like Miguel Cabrera, or he could end up like Pablo Sandoval.
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Postby We Got The Whole 9 » Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:38 pm

Bellinger has 2.8 fwar already. horsefeathering insane slash line 427/500/913
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby rocket » Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:26 pm

Derwood wrote:
weis21 wrote:
Derwood wrote:He'll drop that baby fat any day now

Does he need to?


We'll see. He could end up like Miguel Cabrera, or he could end up like Pablo Sandoval.


so either an elite hall of fame career or a good career
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Postby Bull » Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:20 pm

rocket wrote:
Derwood wrote:
weis21 wrote:Does he need to?


We'll see. He could end up like Miguel Cabrera, or he could end up like Pablo Sandoval.


so either an elite hall of fame career or a good career


I would say this is accurate on both (both that Pablo Sandoval had a merely but clearly good career and that that is Jr's floor.)
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby Sammy Sofa » Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:28 pm

Sandoval had a good career in the sense that's played baseball for a while and made good money, sure.

That Starlin Castro-esque career WAR, however (and take your pick from FG or BR)...
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby Derwood » Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:29 pm

rocket wrote:
Derwood wrote:
weis21 wrote:Does he need to?


We'll see. He could end up like Miguel Cabrera, or he could end up like Pablo Sandoval.


so either an elite hall of fame career or a good career


Yes, though the latter had a pretty sharp drop off. I'm not insinuating that Vlad Jr. is going to be a bust
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby rocket » Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:47 pm

Sammy Sofa wrote:Sandoval had a good career in the sense that's played baseball for a while and made good money, sure.

That Starlin Castro-esque career WAR, however (and take your pick from FG or BR)...


i'm sure 99% of minor leaguers would sign up to have castro's career, i'd put him in the good category too.
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Postby Sammy Sofa » Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:53 pm

You're a kind soul.
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Postby Backtobanks » Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:29 pm

Sammy Sofa wrote:You're a kind soul.



I'm sure a whole bunch of ML players would love to have Castro's career numbers. So far: 10 year career, 4 All Star games, hit .300 twice, .281 career BA, led the league in hits once, and has made $58 million. Certainly not HOF numbers, but a very good career.
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Postby Sammy Sofa » Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:06 pm

Nah. They've had OK careers. Definitely pretty big disappointments relative to potential, plus overall value pans out to being an average regular starting player at best.
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Postby rocket » Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:32 pm

Sammy Sofa wrote:Nah. They've had OK careers. Definitely pretty big disappointments relative to potential, plus overall value pans out to being an average regular starting player at best.


i know it's splitting hairs, but an average player lasting 10+ seasons would qualify as a good career to me
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby Derwood » Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:40 pm

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Sammy Sofa wrote:Nah. They've had OK careers. Definitely pretty big disappointments relative to potential, plus overall value pans out to being an average regular starting player at best.


i know it's splitting hairs, but an average player lasting 10+ seasons would qualify as a good career to me


I think that if you told Jays fans that Vlad Jr.'s career would match Starlin Castro, they wouldn't be happy to hear it
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby JudasIscariotTheBird » Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:46 pm

rocket wrote:
Sammy Sofa wrote:Nah. They've had OK careers. Definitely pretty big disappointments relative to potential, plus overall value pans out to being an average regular starting player at best.


i know it's splitting hairs, but an average player lasting 10+ seasons would qualify as a good career to me

Hairsplitting is this board's MO.
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby WrigleyField 22 » Tue Apr 30, 2019 12:20 am

Derwood wrote:
rocket wrote:
Sammy Sofa wrote:Nah. They've had OK careers. Definitely pretty big disappointments relative to potential, plus overall value pans out to being an average regular starting player at best.


i know it's splitting hairs, but an average player lasting 10+ seasons would qualify as a good career to me


I think that if you told Jays fans that Vlad Jr.'s career would match Starlin Castro, they wouldn't be happy to hear it

Yea. Most ML players would be happy with Starlins career and most ML players aren't Vlad Jr. Most aren't even prospect-Starlin.
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Postby Backtobanks » Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:09 am

rocket wrote:
Sammy Sofa wrote:Nah. They've had OK careers. Definitely pretty big disappointments relative to potential, plus overall value pans out to being an average regular starting player at best.


i know it's splitting hairs, but an average player lasting 10+ seasons would qualify as a good career to me



Not just a 10+ year career, but basically a starter every year.
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby Sammy Sofa » Tue Apr 30, 2019 1:21 pm

If I had said David Eckstein instead of Castro you dorks would be choking on how much you were harrumphing in agreement instead of being all, "well, yes, job security is indeed the true hallmark of a good career in this field of baseball!"
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Postby Derwood » Tue Apr 30, 2019 1:35 pm

Sammy Sofa wrote:If I had said David Eckstein instead of Castro you dorks would be choking on how much you were harrumphing in agreement instead of being all, "well, yes, job security is indeed the true hallmark of a good career in this field of baseball!"


Fun fact:

Starlin Castro career fWAR: 16.9
David Eckstein career fWAR: 16.7
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby Sammy Sofa » Tue Apr 30, 2019 1:49 pm

Derwood wrote:
Sammy Sofa wrote:If I had said David Eckstein instead of Castro you dorks would be choking on how much you were harrumphing in agreement instead of being all, "well, yes, job security is indeed the true hallmark of a good career in this field of baseball!"


Fun fact:

Starlin Castro career fWAR: 16.9
David Eckstein career fWAR: 16.7


It's almost like that name wasn't chosen at random...
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby rocket » Tue Apr 30, 2019 1:50 pm

Sammy Sofa wrote:If I had said David Eckstein instead of Castro you dorks would be choking on how much you were harrumphing in agreement instead of being all, "well, yes, job security is indeed the true hallmark of a good career in this field of baseball!"


a world series mvp, 2 rings, 2 all star appearances, 10 seasons, a shout out on parks and rec, hell yeah sign me up for eckstein's career
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