General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

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Postby Cubswin11 » Fri Jul 26, 2019 4:27 am

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We need to pry Conforto or Nimmo loose.

I’m a huge Conforto guy and would love to get him between now and the offseason. I think Nimmo got Mets’d already, he has some weird neck thing going on.
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby Cubswin11 » Fri Jul 26, 2019 4:31 am

TomtheBombadil wrote:The Mets would be duuuuuuuummb to trade those guys to anyone. Trading a 26 YO Syndergaard is about as Mets-y as they can get

Eh, it’s clear he’s never going to put it together there (idk if he ever does between the health and being more a thrower than a pitcher). He turns 27 at end of year, he has two years to FA. He still is gonna be valued high and they’d get a haul. It wouldn’t be the dumbest thing to move him now before he potentially blows out. Him and the team also seem to not have the greatest relationship. I get why they’d move him.

Whatever they do with him likely ends up the wrong move though. Either they trade him and a team that knows what they’re doing tweaks him to get him pitching to his potential and he stays healthy and the guys they get back flame out or they keep him and his arm/shoulder blows or he keeps being a good but not great pitcher who struggles to go more than ~150 innings a year.
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby TomtheBombadil » Fri Jul 26, 2019 5:58 am

Cubswin11 wrote:Eh, it’s clear he’s never going to put it together there (idk if he ever does between the health and being more a thrower than a pitcher). He turns 27 at end of year, he has two years to FA. He still is gonna be valued high and they’d get a haul. It wouldn’t be the dumbest thing to move him now before he potentially blows out. Him and the team also seem to not have the greatest relationship. I get why they’d move him.

Whatever they do with him likely ends up the wrong move though. Either they trade him and a team that knows what they’re doing tweaks him to get him pitching to his potential and he stays healthy and the guys they get back flame out or they keep him and his arm/shoulder blows or he keeps being a good but not great pitcher who struggles to go more than ~150 innings a year.


I don't buy it. He was arguably their best SP down the WS appearance stretch in 2015 at 22, threw up a 5 WAR season for them at 23, and pulled 4 out of a hat at 25. He's already done some "put it together" type stuff over there, a 27 and 28 YO Syndergaard is still way way more likely to be a top of the league kind of talent than the prospects they'll get. If the Angels are dangling Adell++ or something wild there's a case, but otherwise the Mets are way better off giving Syndergaard
and their offseason more than a couple months.

They should sell Wheeler and Frazier, maybe Lugo since someone will pay up for a good reliever, play JD Davis and Dom Smith, probably time to move on from Rosario...There's a half dozen things they should do before trading Syndergaard (or Diaz) is a serious thing
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Postby We Got The Whole 9 » Fri Jul 26, 2019 6:27 am

Cubswin11 wrote:
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Cubswin11 wrote:https://twitter.com/chriscarlin/status/1154556739330568192?s=21

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We need to pry Conforto or Nimmo loose.

I’m a huge Conforto guy and would love to get him between now and the offseason. I think Nimmo got Mets’d already, he has some weird neck thing going on.
Yeah reports are that hes coming back sometime in the 2nd week of August. I think theres a possibility of one of them being moved in the offseason. They have McNeil, it looks like Rosario is gonna get moved to CF, so only 1 COF spot would remain. I think with Nimmo's neck causing such uncertainty they would probably like to move him first even though he has another year of control than Conforto does. Bulging disks are no joke but the upside is tantalizing enough that we should probably kick the tires at least.
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby jersey cubs fan » Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:24 am

TomtheBombadil wrote:
Cubswin11 wrote:Eh, it’s clear he’s never going to put it together there (idk if he ever does between the health and being more a thrower than a pitcher). He turns 27 at end of year, he has two years to FA. He still is gonna be valued high and they’d get a haul. It wouldn’t be the dumbest thing to move him now before he potentially blows out. Him and the team also seem to not have the greatest relationship. I get why they’d move him.

Whatever they do with him likely ends up the wrong move though. Either they trade him and a team that knows what they’re doing tweaks him to get him pitching to his potential and he stays healthy and the guys they get back flame out or they keep him and his arm/shoulder blows or he keeps being a good but not great pitcher who struggles to go more than ~150 innings a year.


I don't buy it. He was arguably their best SP down the WS appearance stretch in 2015 at 22, threw up a 5 WAR season for them at 23, and pulled 4 out of a hat at 25. He's already done some "put it together" type stuff over there, a 27 and 28 YO Syndergaard is still way way more likely to be a top of the league kind of talent than the prospects they'll get. If the Angels are dangling Adell++ or something wild there's a case, but otherwise the Mets are way better off giving Syndergaard
and their offseason more than a couple months.

They should sell Wheeler and Frazier, maybe Lugo since someone will pay up for a good reliever, play JD Davis and Dom Smith, probably time to move on from Rosario...There's a half dozen things they should do before trading Syndergaard (or Diaz) is a serious thing

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Postby OleMissCub » Fri Jul 26, 2019 4:09 pm

whoa, that Bo Jackson throw

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Postby JudasIscariotTheBird » Fri Jul 26, 2019 5:00 pm

That looks like one of those silly poweraid commercials with the doctored video footage. I swear the ball speeds up as it approaches 2B.
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Postby OleMissCub » Sat Jul 27, 2019 7:27 pm

Jeeeeeeeeeezus

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Postby TruffleShuffle » Wed Jul 31, 2019 2:49 am

well i will give this pitcher credit, most of the time guys just stand on the mound jawing at the dugout or the batter while waiting for his teammates to "hold him back." this dude just horsefeathering charges the dugout and tries to fight the entire team.

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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby Ding Dong Johnson » Wed Jul 31, 2019 2:18 pm

I'm just here to remind that Amir Garrett almost drilled me in the head with an errant bullpen fastball. I would say getting pounded by a group of guys was sufficient payback for that, but he did take a line drive off the shin and had to leave the game I attended.
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Postby squally1313 » Wed Jul 31, 2019 2:21 pm

I'm not sure who that coach is since David Bell was ejected before this, but that little "go get em" butt slap to Garrett as he clearly turns towards the Pirates dugout is pretty great too.
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Postby Cubswin11 » Wed Jul 31, 2019 4:28 pm

squally1313 wrote:I'm not sure who that coach is since David Bell was ejected before this, but that little "go get em" butt slap to Garrett as he clearly turns towards the Pirates dugout is pretty great too.

Is that Derek Johnson?
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Postby UMFan83 » Thu Aug 01, 2019 5:59 pm

I..uhh...wow

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UMFan83 wrote:I..uhh...wow



Better than anything that Oasis has actually ever done.
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Better than anything that Oasis has actually ever done.


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UMFan83 wrote:I..uhh...wow



Glad to see there's a floor on these
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AHHHHHH, KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!!!!!
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Postby The_Achiever » Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:00 am

God I hate Jason Benetti. Always crying over balls and strikes. Such a small baby of a person. He makes me hate the Sox; at least hawk was entertaining in his belly aching.

horsefeathers these [expletive].
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Postby The_Achiever » Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:05 am

Haha abreu. Every Sox fan I know is a smug prick.
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Postby jersey cubs fan » Sat Aug 03, 2019 12:39 pm

The_Achiever wrote:God I hate Jason Benetti. Always crying over balls and strikes. Such a small baby of a person. He makes me hate the Sox; at least hawk was entertaining in his belly aching.

horsefeathers these [expletive].

I’m sorry but no complaint that includes “at least hawk” is valid.
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The_Achiever wrote:God I hate Jason Benetti. Always crying over balls and strikes. Such a small baby of a person. He makes me hate the Sox; at least hawk was entertaining in his belly aching.

horsefeathers these [expletive].


I find it really strange in this day and age that the White Sox still haven't figured out that besides being good the next best thing you could probably do to increase interest in your team is to have really good announcers on TV and radio. Not only do they need to be able to pander to the base, but create an appeal to the non base. Probably not going to happen if you just keep saying "We are getting screwed"
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Postby squally1313 » Sat Aug 03, 2019 1:01 pm

I was under the impression Bennetti was really good and pretty widely respected across baseball? I’d have to be pretty desperate to actually turn on a Sox game, especially with how much fun the cubs have been for the last couple months, so not speaking from too much personal experience.
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Postby d_money » Sat Aug 03, 2019 1:40 pm

squally1313 wrote:I was under the impression Bennetti was really good and pretty widely respected across baseball? I’d have to be pretty desperate to actually turn on a Sox game, especially with how much fun the cubs have been for the last couple months, so not speaking from too much personal experience.

I will occasionally turn on some WS games when flipping around, and Bennetti is really annoying. They could be down 6 runs, and a Sox player will get a hit in the 7th and you’d swear it was a game tying HR. He has a little bit of Chip Carey in him, which is not good. ESPN has him doing basketball and football games. I guess he’s got a good rep in the industry.
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Postby SouthSideRyan » Sat Aug 03, 2019 2:42 pm

NewUserName wrote:
The_Achiever wrote:God I hate Jason Benetti. Always crying over balls and strikes. Such a small baby of a person. He makes me hate the Sox; at least hawk was entertaining in his belly aching.

horsefeathers these [expletive].


I find it really strange in this day and age that the White Sox still haven't figured out that besides being good the next best thing you could probably do to increase interest in your team is to have really good announcers on TV and radio. Not only do they need to be able to pander to the base, but create an appeal to the non base. Probably not going to happen if you just keep saying "We are getting screwed"


Benetti is a really good announcer, and has even made Stone decent again.
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Postby SouthSideRyan » Sat Aug 03, 2019 2:55 pm

On the White Sox topic, their game was really fun last night, Phillies ran out of pitchers so had a position player pitching with Vince Velazquez in LF. He throws out Abreu at the plate in the 14th. Almost does it again in the 15th(went to replay), then ended the inning with a diving catch that statcast gave a 15% chance of making.
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