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Postby Irrelevant Dude » Tue Feb 02, 2021 7:26 pm

On one hand, expanded playoffs are likely the Cubs' only chance at success for the foreseeable future. On the other hand, expanded playoffs suck.

There is nothing interesting about a .500 or sub-.500 team making a playoff run. This isn't the NCAA Basketball Tournament. I fear that Pandora's Box has already been opened though and the owners see money that they aren't going to leave on the table.

Stepping back a bit though, the relationship between players and owners is an absolute mess. I don't think there is any way they can come to terms on a new CBA without a significant strike. As much as I hate to miss out on baseball, it is time for the players to play hardball. The union should be advising everyone to save their 2021 money in preparation for a long work stoppage, because that is the only way the owners are going to come to their senses. A work stoppage won't be good for the game, but it is probably better than continuing on the current trajectory.
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Postby CoolHandLuke » Tue Feb 02, 2021 7:27 pm

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Postby NonProfitCow » Tue Feb 02, 2021 7:42 pm

This story. Jesus.

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Postby TomtheBombadil » Thu Feb 04, 2021 9:28 pm

I guess the owners are a little annoyed the 154 proposal was rejected:

https://www.nj.com/yankees/2021/02/bide ... -says.html

President Joe Biden is trying to play ball. By asking Major League Baseball NOT to play ball.

The Athletic’s Ken Rosenthal reports “senior officials” from the Biden administration spoke last week with MLB. However the MLB Players Association did not take part in those talks in order to avoid being “pressured into delaying the season.”


At least we know these guys are really prioritizing national safety here. It would be very unlike the government to side with business leveraging safety, National Safety, as cover
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Postby The Logan » Mon Feb 08, 2021 3:59 am

Pedro Gomez passed away at 58. I think from a heart attack. Damn
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Postby NonProfitCow » Mon Feb 08, 2021 10:20 pm

Huh?


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Postby Cubswin11 » Mon Feb 08, 2021 10:45 pm

The 7 inning double headers make sense with pitchers facing innings limits they ordinarily wouldn’t have with the shortened year last year, imo. But so stupid they aren’t keeping the DH and keeping the runner on 2B rule.
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Postby Andy » Mon Feb 08, 2021 10:46 pm

NonProfitCow wrote:Huh?



Nothing sums up MLB like keeping the 2 stupid-ass rule changes from last year and not keeping the one that actually made sense.
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I'm sure this will fix everything and won't screw up the season at all
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Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Tue Feb 09, 2021 5:59 pm

I would far prefer a dead ball to the blurnsball we've been getting. Doubly so this year since pitchers will be fighting greater fatigue as the season goes on.
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Postby stitchface » Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:07 pm

Transmogrified Tiger wrote:I would far prefer a dead ball to the blurnsball we've been getting. Doubly so this year since pitchers will be fighting greater fatigue as the season goes on.


so, reduces home runs without decreasing strike outs? Seems pointless to me. strike outs are boring - home runs aren't.
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Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:21 pm

stitchface wrote:
Transmogrified Tiger wrote:I would far prefer a dead ball to the blurnsball we've been getting. Doubly so this year since pitchers will be fighting greater fatigue as the season goes on.


so, reduces home runs without decreasing strike outs? Seems pointless to me. strike outs are boring - home runs aren't.


Those things don't happen in a vacuum, Home runs and strike outs are correlated even if it isn't a perfectly linear relationship.
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby jersey cubs fan » Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:28 pm

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stitchface wrote:
Transmogrified Tiger wrote:I would far prefer a dead ball to the blurnsball we've been getting. Doubly so this year since pitchers will be fighting greater fatigue as the season goes on.


so, reduces home runs without decreasing strike outs? Seems pointless to me. strike outs are boring - home runs aren't.


Those things don't happen in a vacuum, Home runs and strike outs are correlated even if it isn't a perfectly linear relationship.

strikeouts have gone up because teams are more willing to strikeout than they were in years past. Rosters are built with that in mind. Deadening the ball will hurt power, but it's not going to prevent strikeouts from happening until teams start recalibrating their rosters to get more slappy contact guys.
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby stitchface » Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:29 pm

Transmogrified Tiger wrote:
stitchface wrote:
Transmogrified Tiger wrote:I would far prefer a dead ball to the blurnsball we've been getting. Doubly so this year since pitchers will be fighting greater fatigue as the season goes on.


so, reduces home runs without decreasing strike outs? Seems pointless to me. strike outs are boring - home runs aren't.


Those things don't happen in a vacuum, Home runs and strike outs are correlated even if it isn't a perfectly linear relationship.


yes, but softening the ball won't do anything to reduce strike outs unless you believe hitters will adjust to make more contact. Don't see that happening quickly so this change will likely result in the same strikeouts but fewer home runs. assuming they turn into outs, which may not be the case, this will make the game even more boring. for me, walks and strike outs are boring. home runs are good, although triples are more exciting.
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Postby Bertz » Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:38 pm

stitchface wrote:
Transmogrified Tiger wrote:
stitchface wrote:
so, reduces home runs without decreasing strike outs? Seems pointless to me. strike outs are boring - home runs aren't.


Those things don't happen in a vacuum, Home runs and strike outs are correlated even if it isn't a perfectly linear relationship.


yes, but softening the ball won't do anything to reduce strike outs unless you believe hitters will adjust to make more contact. Don't see that happening quickly so this change will likely result in the same strikeouts but fewer home runs. assuming they turn into outs, which may not be the case, this will make the game even more boring. for me, walks and strike outs are boring. home runs are good, although triples are more exciting.


The consensus for how to "fix" the issues with lack of action is starting to coalesce around "deader ball, smaller zone." Looks like deader (and more consistent) ball is coming now, and I imagine smaller zone would come next year? I wouldn't be surprised if a new CBA is considered the more appropriate occasion to adjust the rulebook zone.
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby stitchface » Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:48 pm

how does smaller zone result in more balls in play? Sounds like just more walks and the end of Kyle Hendricks.
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby Bertz » Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:54 pm

stitchface wrote:how does smaller zone result in more balls in play? Sounds like just more walks and the end of Kyle Hendricks.


More walks (and probably K's) in the very short term, but in the longer term less area for hitters to cover means more contact. You basically want both changes because they should work in concert to better incenivize balls in play.
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Postby We Got The Whole 9 » Wed Feb 10, 2021 4:10 am

horsefeathers a smaller zone. Just don't let umps call balls and strikes.

I know... never happening.
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby soccer10k » Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:00 pm

https://www.fangraphs.com/standings/playoff-odds

Playoff odds and win total projections are out and they do not like the Central at all. There are 9 other teams with a higher chance to win the WS than our entire division combined.
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Postby Backtobanks » Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:22 pm

soccer10k wrote:https://www.fangraphs.com/standings/playoff-odds

Playoff odds and win total projections are out and they do not like the Central at all. There are 9 other teams with a higher chance to win the WS than our entire division combined.


Yeah, but think how much money those teams are spending on payroll.
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby Irrelevant Dude » Wed Feb 10, 2021 8:00 pm

Backtobanks wrote:
soccer10k wrote:https://www.fangraphs.com/standings/playoff-odds

Playoff odds and win total projections are out and they do not like the Central at all. There are 9 other teams with a higher chance to win the WS than our entire division combined.


Yeah, but think how much money those teams are spending on payroll.

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Postby jersey cubs fan » Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:13 pm

where was costner?
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