General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby CyHawk_Cub » Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:55 pm

Has nothing to do with anything, really, in light of the rule above, but I recall that playoff walkoff HR by the Mets; Todd Pratt I think ran onto the field & picked up the hitter in celebration before he even got to 2b, he never did cross home due to the celebration. I'm pretty sure that impacted the O/U for that game too.

EDIT: or was it a walkoff HR by Pratt? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Postby bddavidson » Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:57 pm

Thanks for the answers everyone.
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Postby JudasIscariotTheBird » Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:20 pm

mul21 wrote:
JudasIscariotTheBird wrote:I believe that all of the runners that could be gotten out via force outs need to reach their respective bases, and the winning run needs to touch the plate.


There are no force outs available in a walk situation, so this can't be right.

It seems the rules are murky:
http://www.umpire.org/index.php/stories-archive/16-ruleball/229-Walk_Off_Walk
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Postby PackLandVA » Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:38 pm

Someone send it to Len. If he or JD don't know, maybe they'll send it to that rules guy they were talking about yesterday or Saturday.
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Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:26 am

Ding Dong Johnson wrote:I'm struggling to find the rule, but I believe the batter has to reach first and runner has to cross the plate. I do believe umps can call the batter out if he does not reach first, but that would only potentially matter with 2 outs


This was my understanding as well.
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Postby mul21 » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:59 am

Harold Reynolds just said he had a problem with Bryce Harper’s .219 batting average and then followed that up with “he’s making an out eight out of 10 times”. I’m at a loss for words about how stupid that statement is.
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Postby Ding Dong Johnson » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:59 am

jesus, I just posted the dang rule, and it was pretty clear...
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby Andy » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:16 am

CyHawk_Cub wrote:Has nothing to do with anything, really, in light of the rule above, but I recall that playoff walkoff HR by the Mets; Todd Pratt I think ran onto the field & picked up the hitter in celebration before he even got to 2b, he never did cross home due to the celebration. I'm pretty sure that impacted the O/U for that game too.

EDIT: or was it a walkoff HR by Pratt? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

It was Robin Ventura, and it turned his walk-off grand slam into a walk-off RBI single.
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby JudasIscariotTheBird » Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:58 am

Ding Dong Johnson wrote:jesus, I just posted the dang rule, and it was pretty clear...

Yeah, but you quoted the wrong part of the rule. You meant to quote this part:
When the winning run is scored in the last half-inning of a regulation
game, or in the last half of an extra inning, as the result
of a base on balls, hit batter or any other play with the bases
full which forces the batter and all other runners to advance
without liability of being put out, the umpire shall not declare
the game ended until the runner forced to advance from third
has touched home base and the batter-runner has touched first
base

Now we can all sleep easy!
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Postby Ding Dong Johnson » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:46 pm

my previous post said that. I quoted the exception
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Postby TBS Playoffs Insider » Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:09 pm

freakin trevor bauer leads all major league pitchers in war
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Postby jersey cubs fan » Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:38 pm

TBS Playoffs Insider wrote:freakin trevor bauer leads all major league pitchers in war

typical conservative
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby JudasIscariotTheBird » Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:28 pm

Ding Dong Johnson wrote:my previous post said that. I quoted the exception

Yeah, but that was just you trying to remem....nevermind.
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Postby soccer10k » Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:25 pm

So apparently all of the California teams are blacked out in Hawaii on MLB TV. MLB’s blackout rules are [expletive].
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby Hairyducked Idiot » Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:57 pm

CyHawk_Cub wrote:Has nothing to do with anything, really, in light of the rule above, but I recall that playoff walkoff HR by the Mets; Todd Pratt I think ran onto the field & picked up the hitter in celebration before he even got to 2b, he never did cross home due to the celebration. I'm pretty sure that impacted the O/U for that game too.

EDIT: or was it a walkoff HR by Pratt? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Related: McGwire's 62nd home run in 1998 should have been called out for illegal help from the first base coach.
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby stitchface » Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:04 am

soccer10k wrote:So apparently all of the California teams are blacked out in Hawaii on MLB TV. MLB’s blackout rules are [expletive].

lol. Are you on vacation or did you move?
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Postby soccer10k » Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:25 am

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soccer10k wrote:So apparently all of the California teams are blacked out in Hawaii on MLB TV. MLB’s blackout rules are [expletive].

lol. Are you on vacation or did you move?


My work has an office in Hawaii and one of the guys that works there is a Cubs fan. He told me he couldn’t watch last night. MLB Network said it was either the Cubs game or the Dodger game and he didn’t get either. So I did a little searching and found that info out.
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Postby Regular Show » Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:07 am



Wat...
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Postby Banedon » Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:03 am



"When I saw OT coming through the gate—and again, it's not that I don't think he can pitch—just not the guy I was expecting," Francona said, per The Athletic's C. Trent Rosecrans. "I know Carl's beating himself up right now, but that one lands on me."
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby Derwood » Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:30 pm

The Reds aren't going to finish in last place. They dug themselves a massive hole, but have been pretty good for 2 months.

Now if they trade away everyone who is any good, I retract that statement
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Postby TruffleShuffle » Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:17 pm



this doesn't seem like a great trend.
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Postby jersey cubs fan » Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:47 pm

I'm not going to lament the loss of ground ball outs.
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Postby Banedon » Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:49 pm

Yeah, not real sure there's a lot of conclusions to be taken from that.
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Postby TBS Playoffs Insider » Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:50 pm

youre telling me players are walking and striking out more these days???
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby Cubswin11 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:23 pm

Also, every pitcher throws 95+ with some sort of breaking pitch. It’s harder than ever to just put a ball in play.
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