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Miami fires Guillen

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Miami fires Guillen

Postby Banedon » Tue Oct 23, 2012 2:11 pm

Cora is gone with him. Apparently they didn't like that Guillen had delegated lineup responsibilities to Cora.

They still owe Guillen $7.5mil over 3 years.

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Miami fires Guillen

Postby minnesotacubsfan » Tue Oct 23, 2012 2:12 pm

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Re: Miami fires Guillen

Postby jersey cubs fan » Tue Oct 23, 2012 2:21 pm

Huh, I could have sworn this already happened.
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Re: Miami fires Guillen

Postby The Logan » Tue Oct 23, 2012 2:50 pm

Spend copious amounts of money to show their fans they are going for it all. Start giving up after 3 1/2 months of mediocrity and piss in their fans faces. Stay classy, Marlins (read: Jeff Loria).

Although Guillen should've never been hired in the first place, but this is still just another ridiculous note in this past year for the Marlins
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Re: Miami fires Guillen

Postby CubInOK » Tue Oct 23, 2012 3:01 pm

Curse of the Home Run Shrine?

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Postby Irrelevant Dude » Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:45 pm

I predict Dave Martinez will get this job.
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Re: Miami fires Guillen

Postby El Duderino » Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:36 pm

Will anyone be stupid enough to hire Bobby V or Guillen again?
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Re: Miami fires Guillen

Postby Slide Castro Slide » Tue Oct 23, 2012 8:03 pm

El Duderino wrote:Will anyone be stupid enough to hire Bobby V or Guillen again?


Somebody might hire Guillen for something, but I'm guessing that Major League Baseball has seen the last of Bobby V.

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Re: Miami fires Guillen

Postby CUBZ99 » Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:07 pm

El Duderino wrote:Will anyone be stupid enough to hire Bobby V or Guillen again?


Maybe one of them will be the Cubs next Color analyst?

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Re: Miami fires Guillen

Postby biittner77 » Wed Oct 24, 2012 9:36 am

Slide Castro Slide wrote:
El Duderino wrote:Will anyone be stupid enough to hire Bobby V or Guillen again?


Somebody might hire Guillen for something, but I'm guessing that Major League Baseball has seen the last of Bobby V.


Wouldn't suprise me if one or both of their names came up next time there's an opening. MLB owners love to recycle. What went wrong for their respective teams can easily be deflected onto other people. The Red Sox had injuries and it looks like they have other issues too. It doesn't matter who you are, if you're being comapred to Loria you should come out as the better person.
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Re: Miami fires Guillen

Postby Bob Sanders » Thu Nov 01, 2012 11:00 am

And they replace him with Mike Redmond.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/85796 ... r-contract
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Miami fires Guillen

Postby WrigleyField 22 » Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:10 pm

Signing your former players with little to no managing experience is so in. Bonus points if he was a catcher.


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Re: Miami fires Guillen

Postby rocket » Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:52 pm

Bob Sanders wrote:And they replace him with Mike Redmond.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/85796 ... r-contract


haha i assumed he was still playing somewhere in the majors.
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Re: Miami fires Guillen

Postby StarlinOnYou » Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:57 pm

biittner77 wrote:
Slide Castro Slide wrote:
El Duderino wrote:Will anyone be stupid enough to hire Bobby V or Guillen again?


Somebody might hire Guillen for something, but I'm guessing that Major League Baseball has seen the last of Bobby V.


Wouldn't suprise me if one or both of their names came up next time there's an opening. MLB owners love to recycle. What went wrong for their respective teams can easily be deflected onto other people. The Red Sox had injuries and it looks like they have other issues too. It doesn't matter who you are, if you're being comapred to Loria you should come out as the better person.


I never really understood why the same MLB retreads get hired over and over. It doesn't really happen in other sports. Like in the NFL, you have pretty much one shot to prove your worth or you are almost NEVER getting another opportunity any time soon.

I still am confident that Bobby V is done in MLB.

Who would hire Guillen though? Miami was his perfect landing spot and he wore out his welcome within a year. He is loud, a PR nightmare, and not a good manager. Did players even enjoy playing for him?

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Re: Miami fires Guillen

Postby StarlinOnYou » Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:04 pm

The Logan wrote:Spend copious amounts of money to show their fans they are going for it all. Start giving up after 3 1/2 months of mediocrity and piss in their fans faces. Stay classy, Marlins (read: Jeff Loria).

Although Guillen should've never been hired in the first place, but this is still just another ridiculous note in this past year for the Marlins


I don't remember where, but I am 100% sure I read in the offseason the Marlins were only spending this money to sell tickets and they were going to unload a lot of the salary as soon as they could.

What is mind boggling to me is why you trade Hanley for Eovaldi. Eovaldi while young never struck me as a great young arm. Talk about selling low on Hanley. If you were going to trade him why go through the trouble of moving him to 3rd in the first place after signing Reyes? If they would have traded Hanley after they signed Reyes - there is no doubt they would have gotten almost double the return IMO.

And the move before that to trade for Carlos Lee.. I think that has to be the worst year of acquisitions and moves maybe ever.


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