#NotAllPitchers

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Re: #NotAllPitchers

Postby Ding Dong Johnson » Mon Apr 03, 2017 9:20 pm

champaignchris wrote:Syndergaard left today's game with a blister.

Likelihood it's a chronic Rich Hill-type thing?

Given that it's the Mets, I'm thinking pretty high.

blisters = herpes. it's a Ryan Braun type thing
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Postby Omar » Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:42 pm

I thought herpes was a Derek Jeter type of thing
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Postby Ding Dong Johnson » Mon Apr 03, 2017 11:54 pm

Omar wrote:I thought herpes was a Derek Jeter type of thing

where do you think he got them?
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Re: #NotAllPitchers

Postby Tryptamine » Tue Apr 04, 2017 4:47 pm

Met starting pitcher Seth Lugo has a slight tear in his UCL, but will avoid surgery in lieu of the almost never successful platelet rich plasma injection followed by rest. So much for any rotation depth in New York this year.
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Postby Banedon » Tue Apr 04, 2017 4:49 pm

Tryptamine wrote:Met starting pitcher Seth Lugo has a slight tear in his UCL, but will avoid surgery in lieu of the almost never successful platelet rich plasma injection followed by rest. So much for any rotation depth in New York this year.


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Postby We Got The Whole 9 » Tue Apr 04, 2017 6:15 pm

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Postby Duke Silver » Tue Apr 04, 2017 6:37 pm

The new plan is for Zack Wheeler to take two turns in the rotation and throw 450 innings this year.
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Postby cl smooth » Tue Apr 04, 2017 6:49 pm

great to see the mets in mid-season form so early in april.
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Postby Bote McBoteface » Tue Apr 04, 2017 7:03 pm

Over at MetsRefugees...

Lester arrieta kendricks lackey 30+ starts 200 innings in their sleep

But we have 7 young studs and have injury after injury lol


Hehehehehe.

At least they got a world series appearance out of it. Thats more than we got when we stupidly built a team around young pitchers.
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Postby Cubswin11 » Tue Apr 04, 2017 7:16 pm

Duke Silver wrote:The new plan is for Zack Wheeler to take two turns in the rotation and throw 450 innings this year.

And up Cespedes HR total to 300 on the year
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Postby TomtheBombadil » Tue Apr 04, 2017 9:42 pm

I, for one, am stunned to find out that Drew Smyly is hurt.
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Postby jersey cubs fan » Wed Apr 05, 2017 3:56 pm

Omar wrote:I thought herpes was a Derek Jeter type of thing





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Postby UMFan83 » Wed Apr 05, 2017 8:59 pm

Enn Tea wrote:Over at MetsRefugees...

Lester arrieta kendricks lackey 30+ starts 200 innings in their sleep

But we have 7 young studs and have injury after injury lol


Hehehehehe.

At least they got a world series appearance out of it. Thats more than we got when we stupidly built a team around young pitchers.


Haha I'm reading more now. I don't know why it gives me so much joy to watch them be incredulous over their pitcher's injuries. I think its some combo of:

-Having experienced this ourselves in the early/mid 2000's, its sort of fun watching some other team's fans deal with it
-The fact that they don't seem to get why this is not some sort of terrible fluky thing and why the Cubs starters in comparison have been healthy. Yes both teams have been extremes in opposite directions but its not a complete fluke the Cubs starters have been healthier than average and the Mets more injured than average.
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Postby Agony and Ivy » Wed Apr 05, 2017 9:04 pm

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/what-on-earth-happened-with-jake-arrieta/

Wasn't sure where to share this but hopefully this is just a byproduct of the Cardinals dumb stadium breaking StatCast.
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Postby Duke Silver » Wed Apr 05, 2017 9:25 pm

Agony and Ivy wrote:http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/what-on-earth-happened-with-jake-arrieta/

Wasn't sure where to share this but hopefully this is just a byproduct of the Cardinals dumb stadium breaking StatCast.


This is, like, the very worst thread you could have chosen. Do you want him to die?
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Postby Agony and Ivy » Wed Apr 05, 2017 9:33 pm

Duke Silver wrote:
Agony and Ivy wrote:http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/what-on-earth-happened-with-jake-arrieta/

Wasn't sure where to share this but hopefully this is just a byproduct of the Cardinals dumb stadium breaking StatCast.


This is, like, the very worst thread you could have chosen. Do you want him to die?


He could be dying. That's the point!
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Postby UMFan83 » Wed Apr 05, 2017 9:35 pm

Agony and Ivy wrote:http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/what-on-earth-happened-with-jake-arrieta/

Wasn't sure where to share this but hopefully this is just a byproduct of the Cardinals dumb stadium breaking StatCast.


Supposedly Lester's velocity was down his first start as well. Cubs played into November last year and expect to be playing in October/November again, I could definitely see the coaching staff trying to get the pitchers to dial it back a bit in the early part of the season.

The part I don't like is him getting 1st pitch strikes less than half the time last night.
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Postby Agony and Ivy » Wed Apr 05, 2017 9:36 pm

UMFan83 wrote:
Agony and Ivy wrote:http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/what-on-earth-happened-with-jake-arrieta/

Wasn't sure where to share this but hopefully this is just a byproduct of the Cardinals dumb stadium breaking StatCast.


Supposedly Lester's velocity was down his first start as well. Cubs played into November last year and expect to be playing in October/November again, I could definitely see the coaching staff trying to get the pitchers to dial it back a bit in the early part of the season.

The part I don't like is him getting 1st pitch strikes less than half the time last night.


I liked the breaking ball command though.
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Re: #NotAllPitchers

Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Wed Apr 05, 2017 10:03 pm

Even without the enormous blinking PitchFX/Statcast disclaimer, trying to read the tea leaves into single game numbers on velocity/movement/release point/etc is my least favorite form of analysis. I was really disappointed when I saw Sullivan wrote about Arrieta and then found out it was that stuff.
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Re: #NotAllPitchers

Postby David » Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:09 pm

can't make this up

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Postby bukie » Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:11 pm

The Dodgers really do have a blistering rotation.
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Re: #NotAllPitchers

Postby Duke Silver » Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:13 pm

David wrote:can't make this up



lol
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Postby Agony and Ivy » Fri Apr 07, 2017 8:28 pm

Transmogrified Tiger wrote:Even without the enormous blinking PitchFX/Statcast disclaimer, trying to read the tea leaves into single game numbers on velocity/movement/release point/etc is my least favorite form of analysis. I was really disappointed when I saw Sullivan wrote about Arrieta and then found out it was that stuff.


It's only weird because it's our guy. Velocity readings are up everywhere except on balls he threw. I'm not super concerned since the stuff was still good and the Cardinals were shutdown but to pretend it's not at least a red flag is weird.
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Re: #NotAllPitchers

Postby David » Fri Apr 07, 2017 8:30 pm

Agony and Ivy wrote:
Transmogrified Tiger wrote:Even without the enormous blinking PitchFX/Statcast disclaimer, trying to read the tea leaves into single game numbers on velocity/movement/release point/etc is my least favorite form of analysis. I was really disappointed when I saw Sullivan wrote about Arrieta and then found out it was that stuff.


It's only weird because it's our guy. Velocity readings are up everywhere except on balls he threw. I'm not super concerned since the stuff was still good and the Cardinals were shutdown but to pretend it's not at least a red flag is weird.


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Re: #NotAllPitchers

Postby Agony and Ivy » Sat Apr 08, 2017 1:33 am

David wrote:
Agony and Ivy wrote:
Transmogrified Tiger wrote:Even without the enormous blinking PitchFX/Statcast disclaimer, trying to read the tea leaves into single game numbers on velocity/movement/release point/etc is my least favorite form of analysis. I was really disappointed when I saw Sullivan wrote about Arrieta and then found out it was that stuff.


It's only weird because it's our guy. Velocity readings are up everywhere except on balls he threw. I'm not super concerned since the stuff was still good and the Cardinals were shutdown but to pretend it's not at least a red flag is weird.




That writeup says nothing different than anything else that's out there which is basically :dontknow:

It's one start so I'm not panicking at all, but I am more concerned over the drastically lower arm slot than the velocity.
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