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Postby Banedon » Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:07 am

If it was anybody but Rizzo, I don't think that happens. Rizzo having previously apologized to Angel I think went a long way to him admitting this now.
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Postby Brian » Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:49 pm

This guy is my hero.

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Postby Sammy Sofa » Tue Aug 07, 2018 6:38 pm

https://deadspin.com/angry-baseball-guy ... 1828166387

Angry Baseball Guy Brings Trash Can Onto Field, Tells Umpire To "Go To Your Home"


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Postby Banedon » Tue Aug 07, 2018 6:44 pm

That is just fantastic.

I'm glad I watched the twitter video without knowing anything else about it.
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Postby Sammy Sofa » Tue Aug 07, 2018 6:50 pm

Also: hey, the Chicago Dogs now exist!
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Postby The Logan » Tue Aug 14, 2018 11:38 pm

Ben with the dunk



Here's the call:

https://mediadownloads.mlb.com/mlbam/mp ... _2500K.mp4
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Re: The Terrible Umpires Thread

Postby Regular Show » Tue Aug 14, 2018 11:43 pm

The Logan wrote:Ben with the dunk



Here's the call:

https://mediadownloads.mlb.com/mlbam/mp ... _2500K.mp4


That was awesome to hear. I know players (the vast majority of them) want this, but they rarely ever say it out loud.

This is the #1 thing I want changed in MLB. It's about time they stop letting these horsefeathers umps ruin the game.
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Postby Sammys Boombox » Wed Aug 15, 2018 12:47 am

Sammys Boombox wrote:Never forget Phil Cuzzi. He was the plate umpire for the no hitter by Hamels, both of the losses by Jake after May 17, 2015, the hack job that was Game 1 of the NLDS and the only umpire to ever eject Miguel Montero (catcher of 8000+ innings and batter of 4000+ plate appearances).

Add the only umpire to ever eject Ben Zobrist (6500+ PA).
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Postby Duke Silver » Wed Aug 15, 2018 2:02 am

Sammys Boombox wrote:
Sammys Boombox wrote:Never forget Phil Cuzzi. He was the plate umpire for the no hitter by Hamels, both of the losses by Jake after May 17, 2015, the hack job that was Game 1 of the NLDS and the only umpire to ever eject Miguel Montero (catcher of 8000+ innings and batter of 4000+ plate appearances).

Add the only umpire to ever eject Ben Zobrist (6500+ PA).


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Postby TBS Playoffs Insider » Wed Aug 15, 2018 2:51 am

The Logan wrote:Ben with the dunk



Here's the call:

https://mediadownloads.mlb.com/mlbam/mp ... _2500K.mp4


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Re: The Terrible Umpires Thread

Postby Regular Show » Wed Aug 15, 2018 7:03 am

https://deadspin.com/ben-zobrist-is-sti ... 1828345886

Interesting take in the comments section and by "interesting" I mean terrible on so many levels:

TheUmpireStrikesBack wrote:

So my name gives me away a little, and I realize I’m swimming upstream against a very popular Deadspin narrartive, but ....

This is always [expletive]. The umpires “fail,” sure. And their failure rate is FAR lower than the players. Good batters fail about 70% of the time. So why is there this collective hard-on about e-zones? Look, let Zobrist bitch - he’ll be retired soon, and maybe this is his way of fighting that fact: “I’d be better if it weren’t for the bad man!” That specific pitch might have been an inch or so off the plate, depending on how those charts are read - swing the bat, [expletive]!

What the horsefeathers are all these guys gonna do, once an e-zone IS implemented? They’re still gonna look at strikes and get called out, so who’re they gonna bitch at and blame?

Games are played and officiated on the field, by people. Why is that now not good enough?


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Postby Sammy Sofa » Wed Aug 15, 2018 5:36 pm

Regular Show wrote:https://deadspin.com/ben-zobrist-is-still-very-much-looking-forward-to-robot-1828345886

Interesting take in the comments section and by "interesting" I mean terrible on so many levels:

TheUmpireStrikesBack wrote:

So my name gives me away a little, and I realize I’m swimming upstream against a very popular Deadspin narrartive, but ....

This is always [expletive]. The umpires “fail,” sure. And their failure rate is FAR lower than the players. Good batters fail about 70% of the time. So why is there this collective hard-on about e-zones? Look, let Zobrist bitch - he’ll be retired soon, and maybe this is his way of fighting that fact: “I’d be better if it weren’t for the bad man!” That specific pitch might have been an inch or so off the plate, depending on how those charts are read - swing the bat, [expletive]!

What the horsefeathers are all these guys gonna do, once an e-zone IS implemented? They’re still gonna look at strikes and get called out, so who’re they gonna bitch at and blame?

Games are played and officiated on the field, by people. Why is that now not good enough?


Thankfully that turd got rightly annihilated in all of the replies. Even by the standards of terrible internet analogies, that is a HoF terrible internet analogy.

And while Zobrist is 110% right, this other comment was gold:

Considering how much autotune goes into his wife’s music, it is not surprising that the entire Zobrist family is pro-robot.
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Postby TBS Playoffs Insider » Wed Aug 15, 2018 5:41 pm

this is not popular but i dont care if they do robot umps or not. you get screwed sometimes, other people get screwed sometimes. I dunno, I just don't really care. We have replay now and it seems to work about half the time anyway.

anyway im not anti-robot umps, im sure it will be fine if/when it happens. I just don't care if it does or not.
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Re: The Terrible Umpires Thread

Postby Sammy Sofa » Wed Aug 15, 2018 5:46 pm

Look, we have less than 2 years to hit the schedule set down by Super Baseball 2020, so we gotta get a move on. Bring on robot umps, droid DHs, and sexy cyborg dudes and chicks clobbering flaming baseballs past someone who mistimed their rocket jump.
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Postby bcl412 » Wed Aug 15, 2018 7:09 pm

Maybe this is meatbally and a little trashy but I like baseball arguments. They’re fun and I kind of want them around.
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Postby Ding Dong Johnson » Wed Aug 15, 2018 7:10 pm

I'd rather just watch baseball
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Re: The Terrible Umpires Thread

Postby PackLandVA » Thu Aug 16, 2018 12:58 am

I'm still waiting for someone to explain how the strike zone will be determined. Using PitchTrax or whatever, is the pitch a strike if it just touches the rectangle box? Or does it need to be completely in the box? Or mostly in the box?

And will catchers revolt because those with great pitch framing ability will lose one of their valuable assets? :dontknow:
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Re: The Terrible Umpires Thread

Postby stitchface » Thu Aug 16, 2018 1:18 am

PackLandVA wrote:I'm still waiting for someone to explain how the strike zone will be determined. Using PitchTrax or whatever, is the pitch a strike if it just touches the rectangle box? Or does it need to be completely in the box? Or mostly in the box?

And will catchers revolt because those with great pitch framing ability will lose one of their valuable assets? :dontknow:



It doesn't really matter as long as its consistent.
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Postby PackLandVA » Thu Aug 16, 2018 1:20 am

stitchface wrote:
PackLandVA wrote:I'm still waiting for someone to explain how the strike zone will be determined. Using PitchTrax or whatever, is the pitch a strike if it just touches the rectangle box? Or does it need to be completely in the box? Or mostly in the box?

And will catchers revolt because those with great pitch framing ability will lose one of their valuable assets? :dontknow:



It doesn't really matter as long as its consistent.


Good point. But really, what would the strike zone be? I'm inclined to think Baseball would make the pitch be mostly or completely in the box as they'd like to keep offensive production up.
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Re: The Terrible Umpires Thread

Postby stitchface » Thu Aug 16, 2018 1:32 am

one likely result would be even more emphasis on velocity if you shrunk the zone. anything straight and not really fast would get clobbered.
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Re: The Terrible Umpires Thread

Postby Derwood » Thu Aug 16, 2018 11:47 am

Are those Google glasses developed enough that the homeplate ump could wear them and see the strike zone box/pitch trax? Or do we not trust the umps would call what the technology is showing them?
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Postby Tryptamine » Thu Aug 16, 2018 5:40 pm

Derwood wrote:Are those Google glasses developed enough that the homeplate ump could wear them and see the strike zone box/pitch trax? Or do we not trust the umps would call what the technology is showing them?


I have zero faith in them to call it correctly, in fact I believe they would actively torpedo the project out of spite.
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Re: The Terrible Umpires Thread

Postby Cubswin11 » Thu Aug 16, 2018 6:56 pm

Derwood wrote:Are those Google glasses developed enough that the homeplate ump could wear them and see the strike zone box/pitch trax? Or do we not trust the umps would call what the technology is showing them?

There’s no reason to make it this complicated. Use the tracking system we have. If it’s a strike a green light flashes on the scoreboard, if it’s a ball a red light. And show a graphic of the zone in the stadium.
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Postby Thed Hoyerstein » Thu Aug 16, 2018 7:34 pm

maybe David should be an umpire
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Re: The Terrible Umpires Thread

Postby Sammy Sofa » Thu Aug 16, 2018 7:36 pm

He'd refuse to call anything except playoff games.
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