2017 Post-Season Prospect Rankings (BA, Fangraphs, BP, ESPN, MLB Pipeline)

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Re: 2017 Post-Season Prospect Rankings (BA, Fangraphs, BP, ESPN, MLB Pipeline)

Postby CubsWin » Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:16 am

CaliforniaRaisin wrote:So I averaged the rankings of all Cubs prospects who made all of BA, Fangraphs, BP, Keith Law and MLB Pipeline's lists. Only 15 prospects made all 5 listss (David Bote and Jeremiah Estrada each missed on only one list):

  1. 1.6 (tie) Adbert Alzolay
  2. 1.6 (tie) Aramis Ademan
  3. 3.0 Jose Albertos
  4. 5.2 Brendon Little
  5. 5.4 Oscar de la Cruz
  6. 5.6 Alex Lange
  7. 6.6 Victor Caratini
  8. 7.8 Thomas Hatch
  9. 12.8 Nelson Velazquez
  10. 13.4 DJ Wilson
  11. 13.8 (tie) Dillon Maples
  12. 13.8 (tie) Jen-Ho Tseng
  13. 14.8 Miguel Amaya
  14. 18.4 Alec Mills
  15. 18.6 Mark Zagunis

Nice! Thanks, CR.
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Re: 2017 Post-Season Prospect Rankings (BA, Fangraphs, BP, ESPN, MLB Pipeline)

Postby CubsWin » Fri Mar 16, 2018 8:44 am

Sickels came out with his top 175 list: https://www.minorleagueball.com/2018/3/15/17121536/top-175-mlb-prospects-for-2018

Former Cubs prospects:

7. Gleyber Torres
9. Eloy Jimenez
46. Dylan Cease
139. Isaac Paredes

Cubs prospects:

134. Adbert Alzolay
145. Aramis Ademan
149. Alex Lange
156. Jose Albertos
160. Victor Caratini

Coulda been Cubs prospects:

101. Nate Pearson
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Postby Regular Show » Fri Mar 16, 2018 8:48 am

CubsWin wrote:Sickels came out with his top 175 list: https://www.minorleagueball.com/2018/3/15/17121536/top-175-mlb-prospects-for-2018

Former Cubs prospects:

7. Gleyber Torres
9. Eloy Jimenez
46. Dylan Cease
139. Isaac Paredes

Cubs prospects:

134. Adbert Alzolay
145. Aramis Ademan
149. Alex Lange
156. Jose Albertos
160. Victor Caratini

Coulda been Cubs prospects:

101. Nate Pearson


That last category hurts bro :x !

I really liked Nate Pearson in last year's MLB draft too.
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Postby TomtheBombadil » Fri Mar 16, 2018 1:09 pm

Man, props to Sickels on Torres and Jimenez in the back of the top 10. I love the aggressive Bichette ranking and Senzel over Torres, I think both those guys can and will outhit him. Jimenez too really, I'd just love to see more of him in AA first and question his other skills like defense and baserunning.
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Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Fri Mar 16, 2018 3:02 pm

CubsWin wrote:Coulda been Cubs prospects:

101. Nate Pearson


Adrian Morejon at 61 is way more of a coulda been a Cubs prospect, since he was linked to them initially.
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Postby Regular Show » Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:20 pm

CaliforniaRaisin wrote:
CubsWin wrote:Coulda been Cubs prospects:

101. Nate Pearson


Adrian Morejon at 61 is way more of a coulda been a Cubs prospect, since he was linked to them initially.


Really? We had heavy interest in Morejon? The Padres spent a lot on him, and I thought we were still in the penalty phase.

My memory is a little hazy now about when he signed. Even if we weren't in the penalty phase I'm not sure if the Cubs were willing to outbid the Padres.
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Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:35 pm

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CaliforniaRaisin wrote:
CubsWin wrote:Coulda been Cubs prospects:

101. Nate Pearson


Adrian Morejon at 61 is way more of a coulda been a Cubs prospect, since he was linked to them initially.


Really? We had heavy interest in Morejon? The Padres spent a lot on him, and I thought we were still in the penalty phase.

My memory is a little hazy now about when he signed. Even if we weren't in the penalty phase I'm not sure if the Cubs were willing to outbid the Padres.


He was granted free agency a few months before they went into the penalty box. The Cubs were linked to him throughout the time before he was granted a free agency (they were going crazy spending that year on guys like Sierra, Ademan, Albertos, etc) but right around when he was granted free agency, he decided to wait for the next class when the Cubs would be in the penalty box. The Padres signed him while the Cubs were penalized.
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Postby CubsWin » Sat Mar 17, 2018 1:05 am

CaliforniaRaisin wrote:
CubsWin wrote:Coulda been Cubs prospects:

101. Nate Pearson


Adrian Morejon at 61 is way more of a coulda been a Cubs prospect, since he was linked to them initially.

As was Vlad Jr. :banghead:

Yeah, I have no idea if the Cubs liked Pearson enough to where he was even considered by them, but he could've been had at 27 without a bidding war...
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Postby Hrubes20 » Mon Mar 19, 2018 5:23 pm

CaliforniaRaisin wrote:
He was granted free agency a few months before they went into the penalty box. The Cubs were linked to him throughout the time before he was granted a free agency (they were going crazy spending that year on guys like Sierra, Ademan, Albertos, etc) but right around when he was granted free agency, he decided to wait for the next class when the Cubs would be in the penalty box. The Padres signed him while the Cubs were penalized.


He actually wasn't granted his FA until about a month after the new period began, despite the fact that guys who defected AFTER him were granted FA status in the signing period before. Cubs were already in the penalty box by then and couldn't sign him. There were plenty of rumblings at the time that MLB did that on purpose, as the Cubs were linked heavily to Morejon and were already known to be blowing through the spending limits.
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Postby Hrubes20 » Mon Mar 19, 2018 5:23 pm

CubsWin wrote:
CaliforniaRaisin wrote:
CubsWin wrote:Coulda been Cubs prospects:

101. Nate Pearson


Adrian Morejon at 61 is way more of a coulda been a Cubs prospect, since he was linked to them initially.

As was Vlad Jr. :banghead:

Yeah, I have no idea if the Cubs liked Pearson enough to where he was even considered by them, but he could've been had at 27 without a bidding war...


I don't believe this is true. Vlad Jr. was linked the Blue Jays from the start.
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Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Mon Mar 19, 2018 6:35 pm

Hrubes20 wrote:
CubsWin wrote:
CaliforniaRaisin wrote:
Adrian Morejon at 61 is way more of a coulda been a Cubs prospect, since he was linked to them initially.

As was Vlad Jr. :banghead:

Yeah, I have no idea if the Cubs liked Pearson enough to where he was even considered by them, but he could've been had at 27 without a bidding war...


I don't believe this is true. Vlad Jr. was linked the Blue Jays from the start.


Yeah, I don't remember the Cubs being linked to Vlad Jr.
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Postby Regular Show » Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:44 pm

CaliforniaRaisin wrote:
Hrubes20 wrote:
CubsWin wrote:As was Vlad Jr. :banghead:

Yeah, I have no idea if the Cubs liked Pearson enough to where he was even considered by them, but he could've been had at 27 without a bidding war...


I don't believe this is true. Vlad Jr. was linked the Blue Jays from the start.


Yeah, I don't remember the Cubs being linked to Vlad Jr.


Same here. I don't remember the Cubs having interest in Vlad Jr. either. I wished they did though.
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Postby TomtheBombadil » Tue Mar 20, 2018 12:04 am

Regular Show wrote:
CaliforniaRaisin wrote:
Hrubes20 wrote:
I don't believe this is true. Vlad Jr. was linked the Blue Jays from the start.


Yeah, I don't remember the Cubs being linked to Vlad Jr.


Same here. I don't remember the Cubs having interest in Vlad Jr. either. I wished they did though.


I don't think they had time to. IIRC the Blue Jays were favorited for Vlad Jr. long before that period even opened, which most likely means they had an agreement in place for a while.
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CaliforniaRaisin wrote:
Yeah, I don't remember the Cubs being linked to Vlad Jr.


Same here. I don't remember the Cubs having interest in Vlad Jr. either. I wished they did though.


I don't think they had time to. IIRC the Blue Jays were favorited for Vlad Jr. long before that period even opened, which most likely means they had an agreement in place for a while.


Yeah I know. I mean I wish the Cubs had interest way, way back before he had an agreement in place with Tor. Not sure how far back that would be or how young he was when that handshake agreement happened.

He's an incredible prospect now.
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Postby CubsWin » Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:30 am

Regular Show wrote:
CaliforniaRaisin wrote:
Hrubes20 wrote:
I don't believe this is true. Vlad Jr. was linked the Blue Jays from the start.


Yeah, I don't remember the Cubs being linked to Vlad Jr.


Same here. I don't remember the Cubs having interest in Vlad Jr. either. I wished they did though.

Really? I remember it so distinctly. I was even upset when I learned the Jays were now the favorites. Can't remember how I got that idea, though.
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