International Free Agency Thread 2018-2019

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Re: International Free Agency Thread 2018-2019

Postby davell » Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:45 pm

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davell wrote:Raisin, anything of note in Badler's article on the 5 Cubans?


Can you give me a link or a tweet? I can’t seem to find the article.




I guess there's a chance its something they retweeted that's from months ago, they do that occasionally.
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Re: International Free Agency Thread 2018-2019

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:50 pm

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CaliforniaRaisin wrote:
davell wrote:Raisin, anything of note in Badler's article on the 5 Cubans?


Can you give me a link or a tweet? I can’t seem to find the article.




I guess there's a chance its something they retweeted that's from months ago, they do that occasionally.


Haha the tweet doesn’t work.
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Re: International Free Agency Thread 2018-2019

Postby davell » Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:54 pm

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CaliforniaRaisin wrote:
Can you give me a link or a tweet? I can’t seem to find the article.




I guess there's a chance its something they retweeted that's from months ago, they do that occasionally.


Haha the tweet doesn’t work.


Geez lol. I was hoping for new info on Rodriguez.
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Re: International Free Agency Thread 2018-2019

Postby davell » Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:55 am



Holy horsefeathers. Gotta process this one......
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Re: International Free Agency Thread 2018-2019

Postby CubsWin » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:53 am

davell wrote:https://twitter.com/Crewsett/status/1007127864750288896?s=19

Holy horsefeathers. Gotta process this one......

This is absolutely horsefeathering crazy.
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Re: International Free Agency Thread 2018-2019

Postby Regular Show » Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:26 pm

davell wrote:https://twitter.com/Crewsett/status/1007127864750288896?s=19

Holy horsefeathers. Gotta process this one......


This is not good news on multiple fronts. I think teams will take advantage of this situation and use this as an excuse to get out of deals they don't like anymore (teams agreed to these deals when the kids were 13 or 14 most likely) or will try to re-negotiate these deals for a smaller signing bonus.

I definitely have sympathy for these kids and this raises a lot of questions...

If they already had contracts in place (verbal agreements) going back a couple years why did they feel the need to take banned substances? When did they get tested for these banned substances and what did they find exactly?

I doubt we'll get answers to these questions, but this whole situation sucks.
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Re: International Free Agency Thread 2018-2019

Postby Hrubes20 » Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:32 pm

Neither Badler nor Sanchez have tweeted about it yet. I would hold off on putting too much stock in a Dominican article until someone corroborates.
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Re: International Free Agency Thread 2018-2019

Postby davell » Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:39 pm

I have sympathy for the kids, because they're likely just doing what their trainers are telling them to do.

Yeah, their bonuses are going to fall. That said, it's scary as horsefeathers to try and project 14-15 year olds to begin with. Add in PED's to that equation? It absolutely DOES suck for teams too. I

Assuming this is true, it's just another feather in MLB's reasoning to set up a draft. Separating these kids from handlers DOES need to be done. That being said, I'm still not sure it can be done.

As for the ramifications here? Lower bonuses. Maybe even a free for all, with these guys changing orgs. The Cubans that aren't cleared yet are smiling right now though, because there's about to be a bunch of teams with the ability to sign them, due to creating money off these bonuses going away.

Honestly, from a Cubs standpoint, you've got multiple directions to go...... Keep your own guys signed and go after Cubans...... Let your guys go and reshuffle your deck...... Keep your guys and go after more, due to the depressed bonuses....... Save all for Cubans.......

My complete GUESS is we lower the bonuses and give ourselves a better shot at adding more talent thru this somehow.
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Re: International Free Agency Thread 2018-2019

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:12 pm

Hrubes20 wrote:Neither Badler nor Sanchez have tweeted about it yet. I would hold off on putting too much stock in a Dominican article until someone corroborates.


Apparently he broke the Welington Castillo PED story and has connections.
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Re: International Free Agency Thread 2018-2019

Postby Hrubes20 » Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:59 pm

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Hrubes20 wrote:Neither Badler nor Sanchez have tweeted about it yet. I would hold off on putting too much stock in a Dominican article until someone corroborates.


Apparently he broke the Welington Castillo PED story and has connections.


Well then
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Re: International Free Agency Thread 2018-2019

Postby davell » Fri Jun 15, 2018 1:21 am



Ok, back to normality evidently.
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Re: International Free Agency Thread 2018-2019

Postby Regular Show » Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:20 am

davell wrote:https://twitter.com/keithlaw/status/1007416332655177728?s=19

Ok, back to normality evidently.


That's a relief. I was wondering why no one else was commenting on this story (well, non-story now).
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Re: International Free Agency Thread 2018-2019

Postby Hrubes20 » Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:42 pm

Phew. Glad it wasn't anything. No need to add ammo for MLB's push towards an international draft.
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Re: International Free Agency Thread 2018-2019

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:00 pm

Badler dashing our hopes:

The Yankees are tied to Osiel Rodriguez, a Cuban righthander who has reached 96 mph, throws a swing-and-miss breaking ball and has advanced pitchability for a 16-year-old. He has a case as the top pitching prospect in the class, with a bonus likely coming in just north of $1 million


Guess we have to hope for Victor Victor now. Also the Orioles are linked to absolutely no one and will be trading their bonus slots once again.
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Re: International Free Agency Thread 2018-2019

Postby Hrubes20 » Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:09 pm

CaliforniaRaisin wrote:Badler dashing our hopes:

The Yankees are tied to Osiel Rodriguez, a Cuban righthander who has reached 96 mph, throws a swing-and-miss breaking ball and has advanced pitchability for a 16-year-old. He has a case as the top pitching prospect in the class, with a bonus likely coming in just north of $1 million


Guess we have to hope for Victor Victor now. Also the Orioles are linked to absolutely no one and will be trading their bonus slots once again.


They must be trading for money. They were already connected to several big money IFAs, much like the Cubs.
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Re: International Free Agency Thread 2018-2019

Postby davell » Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:24 pm

Well crap. Hopefully we've got something else fun up our sleeves. Surprised his bonus is that low.
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Re: International Free Agency Thread 2018-2019

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:29 pm

Hrubes20 wrote:
CaliforniaRaisin wrote:Badler dashing our hopes:

The Yankees are tied to Osiel Rodriguez, a Cuban righthander who has reached 96 mph, throws a swing-and-miss breaking ball and has advanced pitchability for a 16-year-old. He has a case as the top pitching prospect in the class, with a bonus likely coming in just north of $1 million


Guess we have to hope for Victor Victor now. Also the Orioles are linked to absolutely no one and will be trading their bonus slots once again.


They must be trading for money. They were already connected to several big money IFAs, much like the Cubs.


Yeah, the Yankees are also linked to Antonio Gonzalez (no bonus mentioned) but he must be their top prospect besides Osiel Rodriguez, Kevin Alcantara (around $1 million), Augustin Ramirez (high six-figures), Cuban Denny Larrondo, Juan Carela and Marcos Cabrera.
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