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Re: International Free Agency Thread 2018-2019

Postby Tim » Mon Jul 02, 2018 6:54 pm

CaliforniaRaisin wrote:https://twitter.com/benbadler/status/1013851926243536899?s=21

The way he hunches over when he writes, somebody should check his vision.
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Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Mon Jul 02, 2018 9:53 pm

Hrubes20 wrote:I hate that we have to wait until Instructs to get eyes on these players.


The only nice thing about the new CBA in relation to the draft is now we get to see all the picks play part of the same season.
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Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Mon Jul 02, 2018 10:10 pm

Fangraphs now has blurbs on their top prospects.

Richard Gallardo

Gallardo's style of pitching is in vogue. His fastball plays well up in the zone and rushes past hitters despite fringe velocity and it's compimented by a deep-diving curveball. His frame is modest, but projectable, as is Gallardo's changeup and command due to his delivery's relative ease. He has arguably the best combination of stuff, pitchability and physical projection in the class.
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Postby Hrubes20 » Mon Jul 02, 2018 10:20 pm

CaliforniaRaisin wrote:Fangraphs now has blurbs on their top prospects.

Richard Gallardo

Gallardo's style of pitching is in vogue. His fastball plays well up in the zone and rushes past hitters despite fringe velocity and it's compimented by a deep-diving curveball. His frame is modest, but projectable, as is Gallardo's changeup and command due to his delivery's relative ease. He has arguably the best combination of stuff, pitchability and physical projection in the class.


That is an odd statement to me. He's 16 years old. I've seen video of him in the low 90's. What is he considering non-fringe velocity in a 16 year old?
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Postby Regular Show » Mon Jul 02, 2018 10:29 pm

Hrubes20 wrote:
CaliforniaRaisin wrote:Fangraphs now has blurbs on their top prospects.

Richard Gallardo

Gallardo's style of pitching is in vogue. His fastball plays well up in the zone and rushes past hitters despite fringe velocity and it's compimented by a deep-diving curveball. His frame is modest, but projectable, as is Gallardo's changeup and command due to his delivery's relative ease. He has arguably the best combination of stuff, pitchability and physical projection in the class.


That is an odd statement to me. He's 16 years old. I've seen video of him in the low 90's. What is he considering non-fringe velocity in a 16 year old?


I doubt he pitches in the low 90's consistently. Lots of teenage pitchers have that listed in their profiles. We have to remember that average velocity is rising so what was considered average 10 years ago is now fringe or slightly-below average. I think the average fastball in MLB is now ~93 MPH.

He should get stronger and add more velo as he matures. I like his curveball from the little I've seen in clips.
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Postby Hrubes20 » Mon Jul 02, 2018 11:26 pm

Regular Show wrote:
Hrubes20 wrote:
CaliforniaRaisin wrote:Fangraphs now has blurbs on their top prospects.



That is an odd statement to me. He's 16 years old. I've seen video of him in the low 90's. What is he considering non-fringe velocity in a 16 year old?


I doubt he pitches in the low 90's consistently. Lots of teenage pitchers have that listed in their profiles. We have to remember that average velocity is rising so what was considered average 10 years ago is now fringe or slightly-below average. I think the average fastball in MLB is now ~93 MPH.

He should get stronger and add more velo as he matures. I like his curveball from the little I've seen in clips.


The lowest reports have him 89-91 with his fastball. But regardless, why would anyone ever compare a 16 year old's velocity with that of the average fastball in the bigs, or even full season A ball for that matter? The answer is nobody would (or should), which means he is comparing Gallardo's velocity with that of other 16 year old IFAs. He seems right in line with the majority of them; even higher than many. And honestly, the ones that throw high 90's as 16 years olds have historically flamed out rather spectacularly.
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Re: International Free Agency Thread 2018-2019

Postby TomtheBombadil » Tue Jul 03, 2018 12:37 am

Hrubes20 wrote:The lowest reports have him 89-91 with his fastball. But regardless, why would anyone ever compare a 16 year old's velocity with that of the average fastball in the bigs, or even full season A ball for that matter? The answer is nobody would (or should), which means he is comparing Gallardo's velocity with that of other 16 year old IFAs. He seems right in line with the majority of them; even higher than many. And honestly, the ones that throw high 90's as 16 years olds have historically flamed out rather spectacularly.


He's probably comparing it to a ML fastball and not other sixteen year olds, which is standard.
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Postby TruffleShuffle » Tue Jul 03, 2018 2:56 am

CaliforniaRaisin wrote:Oh, a new name:



José Lopez - $1.5 million
Richard Gallardo - $1 million
Joel Machado - $850,000
Rafael Morel - $850,000
Yohendrick Pinango - $400,000

Total of $4.6 million


everything i've seen had gallardo as one of the best pitching prospects and rated as better than a number of players who got bigger money. just wondering why he took $1m.
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Postby Cubswin11 » Tue Jul 03, 2018 3:01 am

TruffleShuffle wrote:
CaliforniaRaisin wrote:Oh, a new name:



José Lopez - $1.5 million
Richard Gallardo - $1 million
Joel Machado - $850,000
Rafael Morel - $850,000
Yohendrick Pinango - $400,000

Total of $4.6 million


everything i've seen had gallardo as one of the best pitching prospects and rated as better than a number of players who got bigger money. just wondering why he took $1m.

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Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Tue Jul 03, 2018 3:19 am

TruffleShuffle wrote:
CaliforniaRaisin wrote:Oh, a new name:



José Lopez - $1.5 million
Richard Gallardo - $1 million
Joel Machado - $850,000
Rafael Morel - $850,000
Yohendrick Pinango - $400,000

Total of $4.6 million


everything i've seen had gallardo as one of the best pitching prospects and rated as better than a number of players who got bigger money. just wondering why he took $1m.


Teams are starting to pay 16-year old pitchers less than similarly-rated position player prospects. (Besides the Marlins, that is.)
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Postby Hrubes20 » Tue Jul 03, 2018 3:50 am

TomtheBombadil wrote:
Hrubes20 wrote:The lowest reports have him 89-91 with his fastball. But regardless, why would anyone ever compare a 16 year old's velocity with that of the average fastball in the bigs, or even full season A ball for that matter? The answer is nobody would (or should), which means he is comparing Gallardo's velocity with that of other 16 year old IFAs. He seems right in line with the majority of them; even higher than many. And honestly, the ones that throw high 90's as 16 years olds have historically flamed out rather spectacularly.


He's probably comparing it to a ML fastball and not other sixteen year olds, which is standard.


If he would have thrown grades out, then yes. He didn’t. That whole statement was just really weird.
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Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Tue Jul 03, 2018 2:37 pm

It’s entirely possible the Cubs have $300,000 more in their 2018-19 bonus pool depending on if the Cubs cut Florencio Serrano or voided his contract:

Arizona Phil wrote:3. A club can carry-over up to $400K in ISBP space from one ISP to the next ISP if a contract or contracts signed by a player or players is/are voided after the conclusion of the ISP during which the contract or contracts was/were signed. The amount of ISBP space carried-over from the previous ISP must match the amount of ISBP space that was deducted from the club's ISBP after the player or players signed their contracts. If the amount of ISBP space deducted exceeded $400K, the amount of ISBP space in excess of $400K that is carried-over to the next ISP will be divided up into 29 equal amounts and added to the ISBP of the other 29 MLB clubs.
NOTE: A club's right to carry-over ISBP space from one ISP to the next ISP only applies to contracts that are voided as the result of the player failing his physical or being unable to obtain a visa to the U. S. or if an investigation by the MLB Commissioner determines the player falsified his age and/or identity prior to signing the contract. It does not apply to contracts voided by the MLB Commissioner as a result of a rules violation by the club.


I asked Arizona Phil in the comments but he wasn’t sure.
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Postby Hrubes20 » Tue Jul 03, 2018 3:42 pm

CaliforniaRaisin wrote:It’s entirely possible the Cubs have $300,000 more in their 2018-19 bonus pool depending on if the Cubs cut Florencio Serrano or voided his contract:

Arizona Phil wrote:3. A club can carry-over up to $400K in ISBP space from one ISP to the next ISP if a contract or contracts signed by a player or players is/are voided after the conclusion of the ISP during which the contract or contracts was/were signed. The amount of ISBP space carried-over from the previous ISP must match the amount of ISBP space that was deducted from the club's ISBP after the player or players signed their contracts. If the amount of ISBP space deducted exceeded $400K, the amount of ISBP space in excess of $400K that is carried-over to the next ISP will be divided up into 29 equal amounts and added to the ISBP of the other 29 MLB clubs.
NOTE: A club's right to carry-over ISBP space from one ISP to the next ISP only applies to contracts that are voided as the result of the player failing his physical or being unable to obtain a visa to the U. S. or if an investigation by the MLB Commissioner determines the player falsified his age and/or identity prior to signing the contract. It does not apply to contracts voided by the MLB Commissioner as a result of a rules violation by the club.


I asked Arizona Phil in the comments but he wasn’t sure.


I'd rather have Serrano, tbh.
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Hrubes20 wrote:
CaliforniaRaisin wrote:It’s entirely possible the Cubs have $300,000 more in their 2018-19 bonus pool depending on if the Cubs cut Florencio Serrano or voided his contract:

Arizona Phil wrote:3. A club can carry-over up to $400K in ISBP space from one ISP to the next ISP if a contract or contracts signed by a player or players is/are voided after the conclusion of the ISP during which the contract or contracts was/were signed. The amount of ISBP space carried-over from the previous ISP must match the amount of ISBP space that was deducted from the club's ISBP after the player or players signed their contracts. If the amount of ISBP space deducted exceeded $400K, the amount of ISBP space in excess of $400K that is carried-over to the next ISP will be divided up into 29 equal amounts and added to the ISBP of the other 29 MLB clubs.
NOTE: A club's right to carry-over ISBP space from one ISP to the next ISP only applies to contracts that are voided as the result of the player failing his physical or being unable to obtain a visa to the U. S. or if an investigation by the MLB Commissioner determines the player falsified his age and/or identity prior to signing the contract. It does not apply to contracts voided by the MLB Commissioner as a result of a rules violation by the club.


I asked Arizona Phil in the comments but he wasn’t sure.


I'd rather have Serrano, tbh.

I know the full amount doesn't count towards the ISBA space, but I wonder if the team Serrano was purchased from in Mexico would have to give back the $900,000 to the Cubs if the contract was voided.
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Postby TomtheBombadil » Wed Jul 04, 2018 12:15 am

Hrubes20 wrote:If he would have thrown grades out, then yes. He didn’t. That whole statement was just really weird.


The easy and safest assumption to make is that he compared it to a ML fastball. Most likely the 16 YO arm has a wider range of velocity than 89-91+ with the hope being that his combo of youth, health, advanced pitchability, command, control, and track record of success against competition will allow for big gains as a pro.

All I ask for is a better Craig Kimbrel, which is reasonable
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We liked quite a few players in this class,” Eljaua said. “In our opinion, we got commitments from the top right-handed pitcher — arguably the best pitcher on the market — and probably the best left-handed pitcher in Machado.

“We got some really good, premium athletes, up-the-middle guys in Morel and López and Pinango. They’re all plus runners. They all have power. We all feel they’re going to hit and have a chance to stay in the middle of the field.


Here’s Eljaua’s scouting report on Gallardo, who’s listed at 6-foot-1, 187 pounds and ranked fifth on MLB.com’s international pipeline:

“We’ve seen his fastball up to 94. It sits 90-92, which is really good for a 16-year-old. It’s not just the stuff. It’s not just the velocity. He gets really good movement on his fastball, plus movement. A lot of swing and misses on all three pitches. The curveball is a swing-and-miss curveball. The changeup is a plus pitch.

“We feel he’s a leader. He’s a really good athlete. He’s a strong kid. He’s physical. We think he’s going to be a durable guy who’s going to be able to sustain the innings [with] the feel for his stuff and mound presence. For a 16-year-old kid, he’s very polished.


Good article on our recent international FA signings.
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Postby TomtheBombadil » Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:01 am

Gallardo seems like the kind of IFA that will skip the DSL next year, possibly throwing consistently hard.
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Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Wed Jul 04, 2018 3:26 am

TomtheBombadil wrote:Gallardo seems like the kind of IFA that will skip the DSL next year, possibly throwing consistently hard.


Yeah, I expect him to. I can even envision a path to him starting in Eugene next season if he’s as advanced as everyone says.
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Postby CubsWin » Mon Jul 09, 2018 4:06 am

Two more announced signings per AZ Phil:

7/7 UPDATE:

The Cubs have signed two more "J-2" 2018-19 IFA:

Gabriel Jaramillo, RHP
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Ronny Simon, INF
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Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Fri Jul 27, 2018 5:34 pm

Davell found this buried in the Victor Victor and Victor Jr story: https://www.mlb.com/news/update-on-cuba ... -287472096

Who has the most bonus pool available for this signing period?
Social media exploded with speculation that the $1 million in international pool money the Mets acquired from Oakland in the trade for Jeurys Familia would be used to sign Victor Victor when he becomes eligible to sign. The truth is, of the seven teams with the most pool money still available, the Mets rank seventh with approximately $1.3 million remaining.

The teams with more money than the Mets are the Orioles -- who have traditionally stayed out of the Latin American prospect market -- with their full $5.5 million allotment remaining. The Marlins are next with $4.1 million, followed by the Cubs at $3.05 million, the Dodgers at $2.7 million, the Rays at $1.96 million and the Mariners at $1.5 million.


Which is interesting, because the reported signings thus far are:

José Lopez - $1.5 million
Richard Gallardo - $1 million
Joel Machado - $850,000
Rafael Morel - $850,000
Yohendrick Pinango - $400,000

That totals $4.6 million, Jesse Sanchez only has a total ~$1.93 million in signings based on his $3.05 million total.
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Postby Bobson Dugnutt » Fri Jul 27, 2018 6:03 pm

CaliforniaRaisin wrote:Davell found this buried in the Victor Victor and Victor Jr story: https://www.mlb.com/news/update-on-cuba ... -287472096

Who has the most bonus pool available for this signing period?
Social media exploded with speculation that the $1 million in international pool money the Mets acquired from Oakland in the trade for Jeurys Familia would be used to sign Victor Victor when he becomes eligible to sign. The truth is, of the seven teams with the most pool money still available, the Mets rank seventh with approximately $1.3 million remaining.

The teams with more money than the Mets are the Orioles -- who have traditionally stayed out of the Latin American prospect market -- with their full $5.5 million allotment remaining. The Marlins are next with $4.1 million, followed by the Cubs at $3.05 million, the Dodgers at $2.7 million, the Rays at $1.96 million and the Mariners at $1.5 million.


Which is interesting, because the reported signings thus far are:

José Lopez - $1.5 million
Richard Gallardo - $1 million
Joel Machado - $850,000
Rafael Morel - $850,000
Yohendrick Pinango - $400,000

That totals $4.6 million, Jesse Sanchez only has a total ~$1.93 million in signings based on his $3.05 million total.


yeah, if those bonuses are accurate, don't the Cubs have $383,500 left? How could there be such a wide gulf between that number and Sanchez's?
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Re: International Free Agency Thread 2018-2019

Postby davell » Fri Jul 27, 2018 7:33 pm

I think you can roll money over now. Not 100% sure, but I think so. Even still, I can't get to 3.05 based on what we evidently spent last year.
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Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Fri Jul 27, 2018 7:44 pm

davell wrote:I think you can roll money over now. Not 100% sure, but I think so. Even still, I can't get to 3.05 based on what we evidently spent last year.


Seems like a big flaw in the penalties then. Just keep the funds in years you can't spend more than $300k on individual free agents and roll it over to years you can.
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