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Re: 2018 AFL

Postby Cubswin11 » Sun Nov 11, 2018 10:54 pm

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Re: 2018 AFL

Postby Hrubes20 » Mon Nov 12, 2018 6:32 pm

CubsWin wrote:Take it PMs at this point or start a new topic. Title it "Is Nico Hoerner Fast?" or something. I mean, for Pete's sake, check the horse every now and then to see if it's still breathing...


Fair enough.

Re: Leal - I haven't gotten a look at him in the AFL. Is his 9 BBs in 17.1 IP due to him burying a bunch of curves and trying to get swings and misses, or is he just trying to nibble too much with a mediocre at best fastball?
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Re: 2018 AFL

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Fri Nov 23, 2018 7:36 pm

BA had a top 12 AFL prospects list. Nico didn’t make it for some reason (come on, I’d rather have Nico than Peter Alonso) but he did make the AFL Prospects on the Rise list:

AFL Prospects On The Rise

The Arizona Fall League provides an excellent opportunity for players to increase their prospect status and their odds of earning a spot on their organization’s 40-man roster. The players listed in this section are not necessarily the next eight top prospects, but rather a sampling of players who used the AFL season to boost their prospect stock.

Nico Hoerner, SS, Mesa (Cubs) — Hoerner was a rarity in the AFL this year as a player assigned to the league in his draft year after only 14 professional games. The Cubs first-rounder was anything but overmatched, as Hoerner showed feel to hit along with good all-around defensive skills.


https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories ... ll-league/
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Re: 2018 AFL

Postby Thunderbolt_47 » Sun Nov 25, 2018 10:54 am

The thing is that I don't think they added Nco into the main list because he's a rising star. There's less "content" to analyse in order to measure his talents, and because of that, they're not sure whether they could add him or not.
He may well make it into next year's list though!
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Re: 2018 AFL

Postby TomtheBombadil » Sun Nov 25, 2018 2:40 pm

The AFL was pretty loaded this year so I am leaning towards Hoerner just not being a top 12 guy there. I personally would not take him over Alonso now, and that’s a tougher call than guys like Vlad, Whitley, Trammel, Ruiz, Hiura, Robert, Gimenez, Tucker, Kieboom, and Florial. Then there’s still guys like Fox, Buskaukas, Pache, G. Williams, Castellani, and maybe others that I wouldn’t becessarily automatically pick Hoerner over.
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Re: 2018 AFL

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Sun Nov 25, 2018 11:25 pm

Their top 12 was:

1. Vladimir Guerrero Jr
2. Forrest Whitley
3. Christian Pache
4. Jazz Chisholm
5. Keston Hiura
6. Luis Robert
7. Taylor Trammell
8. Carter Kieboom
9. JB Bukauskas
10. Jon Duplantier
11. Nate Pearson
12. Peter Alonso
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Re: 2018 AFL

Postby Hrubes20 » Mon Nov 26, 2018 5:03 pm

CaliforniaRaisin wrote:Their top 12 was:

1. Vladimir Guerrero Jr
2. Forrest Whitley
3. Christian Pache
4. Jazz Chisholm
5. Keston Hiura
6. Luis Robert
7. Taylor Trammell
8. Carter Kieboom
9. JB Bukauskas
10. Jon Duplantier
11. Nate Pearson
12. Peter Alonso


Chisholm above Hiura? That's way too rich for me.
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Re: 2018 AFL

Postby TomtheBombadil » Mon Nov 26, 2018 5:09 pm

Yeah, guy just had no shot to rank so high in a league that loaded. Some other players most would probably take over Hoerner though he’s maybe got similar-ish value and/or potential, sometimes better sometimes worse:

Hudson Potts
Evan White
Yu Chang
Pavin Smith
Daz Cameron
Buddy Reed
Tyler Nevin
Julio Martinez
Lucius Fox
Ryan McKenna
Jahmai Jones
Daulton Varsho
Cavan Biggio
Shed Long
Joe McCarthy
Garrett Williams
Ryan Castellani
Darwinzon Hernandez

Just a loaded league this year
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Re: 2018 AFL

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Tue Nov 27, 2018 3:42 pm

Callis has Hoerner as the 13th best AFL prospect [ahead of Alonso, Duplantier and Bukauskas, but behind Keibert Ruiz (didn’t qualify for BA’s list), Lucius Fox and Cole Tucker]:

https://www.mlb.com/news/blue-jays-vlad ... =151437456

13. Nico Hoerner, SS, Mesa (Cubs No. 6)
A first-round pick (No. 24 overall) in June, Hoerner has outstanding bat-to-ball skills, sneaky power (he tied for the AFL lead with four triples) and plus speed. His average arm may land him at second base, with one scout comparing him to Ian Kinsler.
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