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Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Thu Jul 25, 2019 5:09 am

Box Scores:

Iowa lost 9-1 Box Score

Tennessee lost 7-4 Box Score

Myrtle Beach won 4-1 Box Score

South Bend won 4-1 Box Score

Eugene won 11-1 Box Score

AZL Cubs 1 lost 3-2 Box Score

AZL Cubs 2 won 4-2 Box Score

DSL Cubs 1 won 5-4 on a Brayan Mancilla walk-off single Box Score

DSL Cubs 2 won 6-5 Box Score
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Re: Minor League Discussion & Boxes, 7-25-19

Postby We Got The Whole 9 » Thu Jul 25, 2019 5:00 pm

Keston Hiura at 21 y/o in the SL
307 PA 272/339/416 with an 18% K rate

Nico at 22
147 PA 260/333/420 with a 13% K rate

Hiura gained 200 points of ISO in the PCL and MLB and is now a 400 wOBA guy in his first 160 PA
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Re: Minor League Discussion & Boxes, 7-25-19

Postby TomtheBombadil » Thu Jul 25, 2019 5:32 pm

We Got The Whole 9 wrote:Keston Hiura at 21 y/o in the SL
307 PA 272/339/416 with an 18% K rate

Nico at 22
147 PA 260/333/420 with a 13% K rate

Hiura gained 200 points of ISO in the PCL and MLB and is now a 400 wOBA guy in his first 160 PA


Two issues with this are that Hiura was younger at the level and way more regarded for his power potential as an amateur. Juiced ball might boost Hoerner?
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Postby We Got The Whole 9 » Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:05 pm

TomtheBombadil wrote:
We Got The Whole 9 wrote:Keston Hiura at 21 y/o in the SL
307 PA 272/339/416 with an 18% K rate

Nico at 22
147 PA 260/333/420 with a 13% K rate

Hiura gained 200 points of ISO in the PCL and MLB and is now a 400 wOBA guy in his first 160 PA


Two issues with this are that Hiura was younger at the level and way more regarded for his power potential as an amateur. Juiced ball might boost Hoerner?
I think it very well would. That said I don't think we will know until next year. Hopefully they're still using the same balls.
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Postby Cubswin11 » Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:47 pm

That’s damn filthy, especially as a secondary off of 100+ FB

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Re: Minor League Discussion & Boxes, 7-25-19

Postby Cubswin11 » Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:06 am

Lange has 4 no-hit innings with 7Ks so far. Hopefully there are some scouts for other teams there.
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Postby d_money » Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:29 am

Cubswin11 wrote:https://twitter.com/cubscentral08/status/1154547166557306882?s=21

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Postby CubsWin » Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:37 am

Here's the "chart" for Marquez's first 4 innings:

3 fastballs, 3 strikes at 98, 99 and 100 to the 1st batter.
4 fastballs, strike, strike, foul, strike.100, 100, ?, 101 to the 2nd batter.
4 fastballs, strike, strike, ball (just off the black on the inside corner, strike. ?, 101, ?, 101 to the 3rd batter.

All fastballs. 10 strikes, 1 ball.

FB strike, FB strike, FB high inside (ball), swinging strike on the 1st slider of the night for Marquez.
FB fouled late, FB strike, swinging strike 3 on the slider again.
FB inside (ball) 99, FB fouled late, FB strike 99, swinging strike 3 on the slider once more.

Sat 97-99, no velo given on the sliders. 9 strikes, 2 balls.

FB outside (ball), FB popped up, out.
FB strike called, FB fouled, FB line drive to CF, great diving catch by Roederer, out.
FB inside grounded to 3B, out.

All FBs, no velos given. 5 strikes, 1 ball.

FB fouled 98, good SL but just low (ball), FB line drive to CF, great diving catch by Roederer again, out.
FB fouled, change up low (ball), another good slider called low - check swing (ball), FB lined to CF, single.
Wild pickoff attempt runner advances to 3rd, FB way outside (ball), FB high (ball), FB way outside (ball), FB on the black 98, FB fouled, FB swinging K.
FB strike 99, FB strike, SL bounced (ball), FB swinging K.

Sat 98-99. 10 strikes, 7 balls.

Marquez's body language after his errant pickoff attempt preceded him losing his FB control in the 3 pitches that immediately followed, but when the situation demanded it (man on 3rd, 1 out, 3-0 count), he came back with 3 consecutive strikes and then K'd the next guy for the final out.
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Postby CubsWin » Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:39 am

Cubswin11 wrote:Lange has 4 no-hit innings with 7Ks so far. Hopefully there are some scouts for other teams there.

You had to say something, didn't you...
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Re: Minor League Discussion & Boxes, 7-25-19

Postby Cubswin11 » Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:40 am

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Cubswin11 wrote:Lange has 4 no-hit innings with 7Ks so far. Hopefully there are some scouts for other teams there.

You had to say something, didn't you...

Um, hopefully any scouts there left before his 5th
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Postby We Got The Whole 9 » Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:08 am

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Re: Minor League Discussion & Boxes, 7-25-19

Postby d_money » Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:27 am

Cubswin11 wrote:https://twitter.com/cubscentral08/status/1154558535063072769?s=21

Generally, based on his age/innings pitched, what’s the time table for him to advance to MB - then TN - then IA?
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Postby Tryptamine » Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:50 am

d_money wrote:
Cubswin11 wrote:https://twitter.com/cubscentral08/status/1154558535063072769?s=21

Generally, based on his age/innings pitched, what’s the time table for him to advance to MB - then TN - then IA?


He's a bit more raw than most so I'd guess start at A+ in 2020 with an outside shot at AA after their ASB if he's killing it. With that said, improving a third pitch would let him potentially move faster.
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Re: Minor League Discussion & Boxes, 7-25-19

Postby Cubswin11 » Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:57 am

Tryptamine wrote:
d_money wrote:
Cubswin11 wrote:https://twitter.com/cubscentral08/status/1154558535063072769?s=21

Generally, based on his age/innings pitched, what’s the time table for him to advance to MB - then TN - then IA?


He's a bit more raw than most so I'd guess start at A+ in 2020 with an outside shot at AA after their ASB if he's killing it. With that said, improving a third pitch would let him potentially move faster.

Yeah and also how long they hold on to him trying to be a SP vs thinking he’s a RP at the ML level. Which they should give him every opportunity to be a starter for the foreseeable future until he gives them reason not to.
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Re: Minor League Discussion & Boxes, 7-25-19

Postby Cubswin11 » Fri Jul 26, 2019 2:27 am

He needs to be up sooner than later, there might be only so many bullets.

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Postby We Got The Whole 9 » Fri Jul 26, 2019 2:30 am

Cubswin11 wrote:He needs to be up sooner than later, there might be only so many bullets.

Totally agree. You can handle him with kid gloves all you want but you never know when the bomb is gonna go off. Dont waste too much time with him in Iowa. Especially since you might be able to avoid trading for some meh LHRP by just throwing him into the fire.
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Postby Cubswin11 » Fri Jul 26, 2019 2:31 am

We Got The Whole 9 wrote:
Cubswin11 wrote:He needs to be up sooner than later, there might be only so many bullets.

Totally agree. You can handle him with kid gloves all you want but you never know when the bomb is gonna go off. Dont waste too much time with him in Iowa. Especially since you might be able to avoid trading for some meh LHRP by just throwing him into the fire.

Yeah that’s the other thing, if he is a thing maybe the RP add changes or isn’t needed or isn’t as costly an add.
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Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Fri Jul 26, 2019 3:02 am

d_money wrote:
Cubswin11 wrote:https://twitter.com/cubscentral08/status/1154558535063072769?s=21

Generally, based on his age/innings pitched, what’s the time table for him to advance to MB - then TN - then IA?


He’s really raw and his command lags behind so I think he’ll be nearly one level/year unless he really puts it together at some point and forces the issue.
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Re: Minor League Discussion & Boxes, 7-25-19

Postby TomtheBombadil » Fri Jul 26, 2019 3:39 am

Woo, Marquez and right before the deadline too
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