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International Free Agency Thread 2020-2021

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Wed Aug 21, 2019 3:18 pm

Let's root against an IFA Draft in 2020 because the Cubs are linked to arguably the #1 IFA prospect - 6'1" Dominican SS Christian Hernandez, who is expected to sign for more than $3 million if there is no draft.
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Re: International Free Agency Thread 2020-2021

Postby Hrubes20 » Wed Aug 21, 2019 4:13 pm

CaliforniaRaisin wrote:Let's root against an IFA Draft in 2020 because the Cubs are linked to arguably the #1 IFA prospect - 6'1" Dominican SS Christian Hernandez, who is expected to sign for more than $3 million if there is no draft.


Is this the article from BA today?
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Re: International Free Agency Thread 2020-2021

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Wed Aug 21, 2019 4:58 pm

Hrubes20 wrote:
CaliforniaRaisin wrote:Let's root against an IFA Draft in 2020 because the Cubs are linked to arguably the #1 IFA prospect - 6'1" Dominican SS Christian Hernandez, who is expected to sign for more than $3 million if there is no draft.


Is this the article from BA today?


Yeah, it’s from Badler’s article today.
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Re: International Free Agency Thread 2020-2021

Postby TomtheBombadil » Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:48 pm

Badler's been on this guy for a while too, at 14:

https://www.instagram.com/ben.badler/p/Bgzj_4CHDlx/

The long legs suggested alot of growth potential and here he is sometime last weekend:



That's an impressive frame, like Davis-esque out of HS, wouldn't be surprised if he's already outgrown the 6'1" listing
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Re: International Free Agency Thread 2020-2021

Postby Bertz » Thu Aug 22, 2019 4:59 am

I know baseball loves to cut its nose to spite its face in the international department, but is there really concern that there's going to be less than a year of lead time between an International draft being announced and implemented?
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Re: International Free Agency Thread 2020-2021

Postby TomtheBombadil » Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:28 am



https://blogs.fangraphs.com/a-dispatch- ... world-cup/

The 17-year-old Chen is far from an unknown at this point. According to the international prospect section of THE BOARD, he could be looking at a seven-figure signing bonus in 2020. A major league scout told me that, at this moment, Chen is the most “complete package” among the pitching prospects out of Taiwan. Needless to say, a large group of major league scouts swarmed behind home plate to see Chen pitch against Panama.

Even before his start, Chen’s delivery stood out to me during his bullpen. He has an easy, fast-tempo motion that was direct to home. He finished well towards the home plate, setting himself up for good fielding position in case of a batted ball. He also showed good tempo between his pitches and rarely seemed hesitant to throw any of his pitches.

Chen’s fastball sat at around 89-91 mph throughout the game. He maintained the velocity late in the game when he broke 80-pitch mark. In general, he showed a good feel for commanding the pitch in different parts of the zone. In the second inning, he left some pitches up, which led to some hard contact. When he located his heater well, however, he was able to get called strikes or set up his secondary pitches.

Chen featured two different breaking pitches: a slider, with a 10-4 tilt, around 78-80 mph and a curveball, with a 11-5 tilt, around 71-74 mph. Earlier in the game he turned to his slider as his primary out pitch but he mixed in his curve more later in the game. He generated weak contact and whiffs with both, though it seemed that slider was the sharper one. He not only buried it below the zone for whiffs but also in the zone to freeze hitters. Chen barely showed his changeup and when he did, it wasn’t plus.

Even though he doesn’t have the most overpowering stuff, it’s easy to see why scouts are paying attention to Chen. He showed consistency for most of the game and an ability to throw strikes. And because of his lanky, projectable frame, he will probably add some velocity as he matures.
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Re: International Free Agency Thread 2020-2021

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Sun Sep 01, 2019 6:39 pm

TomtheBombadil wrote:https://twitter.com/sung_minkim/status/1167456442346958848?s=20

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/a-dispatch- ... world-cup/

The 17-year-old Chen is far from an unknown at this point. According to the international prospect section of THE BOARD, he could be looking at a seven-figure signing bonus in 2020. A major league scout told me that, at this moment, Chen is the most “complete package” among the pitching prospects out of Taiwan. Needless to say, a large group of major league scouts swarmed behind home plate to see Chen pitch against Panama.

Even before his start, Chen’s delivery stood out to me during his bullpen. He has an easy, fast-tempo motion that was direct to home. He finished well towards the home plate, setting himself up for good fielding position in case of a batted ball. He also showed good tempo between his pitches and rarely seemed hesitant to throw any of his pitches.

Chen’s fastball sat at around 89-91 mph throughout the game. He maintained the velocity late in the game when he broke 80-pitch mark. In general, he showed a good feel for commanding the pitch in different parts of the zone. In the second inning, he left some pitches up, which led to some hard contact. When he located his heater well, however, he was able to get called strikes or set up his secondary pitches.

Chen featured two different breaking pitches: a slider, with a 10-4 tilt, around 78-80 mph and a curveball, with a 11-5 tilt, around 71-74 mph. Earlier in the game he turned to his slider as his primary out pitch but he mixed in his curve more later in the game. He generated weak contact and whiffs with both, though it seemed that slider was the sharper one. He not only buried it below the zone for whiffs but also in the zone to freeze hitters. Chen barely showed his changeup and when he did, it wasn’t plus.

Even though he doesn’t have the most overpowering stuff, it’s easy to see why scouts are paying attention to Chen. He showed consistency for most of the game and an ability to throw strikes. And because of his lanky, projectable frame, he will probably add some velocity as he matures.


Per FG, he’s eligible the sign now but I’m guessing he’ll wait to graduate from HS next year.

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Re: International Free Agency Thread 2020-2021

Postby TomtheBombadil » Wed Sep 04, 2019 3:02 am



Theo must acquire

Edit: Of course, the first thing that pops up:

https://www.reddit.com/r/baseball/comme ... ighschool/

194 pitches in a 12 inning complete game coolcoocool guess he's more of a man now
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Postby Hrubes20 » Wed Oct 16, 2019 4:12 pm



He really matured since the previous video I saw of him. I also don't hate that his nickname is Arod.
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Re: International Free Agency Thread 2020-2021

Postby TomtheBombadil » Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:32 pm

What is the status of the international draft? It seemed like some media outlets jumped on the possibility of a 2020 draft back in July, but then have gone completely silent on the matter. Safe to assume no progress has been made, at all?

Kiley McDaniel:

MLB wants it ASAP but they have to get agreements with all the different countries and that will take awhile. They also need the MLBPA to sign off, so it's likely for 2022 with the new CBA when all of this can be done...some nonzero chance they can pull it off before that

MLB also wants there to be a lot of rounds and a low bonus (like $10K max) for undrafted players, so having like 3 countries that aren't subject to the draft, then a Moncada type talent pops up...that's a problem. They need everyone subject to the draft for this cost-reducing scheme to work


I'm anti-draft so booooooooooooo
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Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Fri Feb 07, 2020 5:44 am

Bertz wrote:https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/statuses/1225585489282990080


Badler had the same news earlier today. Really wish they had given adequate IFA penalties to the Astros.

Badler made it sound like this future Astro isn't as good as the guys he rated 1a and 1b, SS Christian Hernandez (linked to the Cubs) and a SS linked to the Rays.
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Re: International Free Agency Thread 2020-2021

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Sun Feb 09, 2020 12:07 am



I’m guessing the White Sox would have to trade for cap space to be able to afford Colás after this signing. He’s probably going to demand ~$4 million.

Multiple international scouting sources said the White Sox also have interest in Cuban star OF/LHP Oscar Colas, who recently defected. It's unclear how Vera's deal will impact the White Sox's pursuit of Colas. Chicago's international bonus pool for the 2019-20 signing period was slightly less than $5.4 million.
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Re: International Free Agency Thread 2020-2021

Postby Regular Show » Sun Feb 09, 2020 12:13 am

CaliforniaRaisin wrote:https://twitter.com/kileymcd/status/1226282414483349511?s=21

I’m guessing the White Sox would have to trade for cap space to be able to afford Colas.

Multiple international scouting sources said the White Sox also have interest in Cuban star OF/LHP Oscar Colas, who recently defected. It's unclear how Vera's deal will impact the White Sox's pursuit of Colas. Chicago's international bonus pool for the 2019-20 signing period was slightly less than $5.4 million.


I think they could afford both without trading for more IFA pool money. I think Colas will get somewhere around ~$3M and the agreement with Vera is for $1.5M. I believe they lost some pool money for signing Grandal as well.

Also, Colas isn't a true two-way talent like Shohei Ohtani or Brendan McKay. When he signs with some team it'll be strictly as an OF is my guess.

EDIT: Yeah, scratch that last part about the White Sox losing pool money for signing Grandal. He got a QO last offseason.
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Re: International Free Agency Thread 2020-2021

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Tue Feb 11, 2020 6:08 pm

https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories ... -to-watch/

On top of potentially the top IFA in next year's class, Dominican SS Christian Hernandez, the Cubs are also linked to Venezuelan catcher Moises Ballesteros. Ballesteros bats lefty, produces hard contact and has a strong arm.

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Re: International Free Agency Thread 2020-2021

Postby Hrubes20 » Fri Feb 14, 2020 5:12 pm

CaliforniaRaisin wrote:https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/2020-mlb-international-prospects-preview-catchers-to-watch/

On top of potentially the top IFA in next year's class, Dominican SS Christian Hernandez, the Cubs are also linked to Venezuelan catcher Moises Ballesteros. Ballesteros bats lefty, produces hard contact and has a strong arm.



Give me all the Venezuelan catchers!!!!
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Re: International Free Agency Thread 2020-2021

Postby Bertz » Fri Feb 14, 2020 5:53 pm

Yeah I really like this idea of stockpiling young offensively gifted catchers. Attrition is really bad behind the plate, but between Hearn, Quintero, and Ballasteros the odds of netting an impact guy are actually pretty solid.

I also think some of the the systemic changes coming to MLB in the next few years positively affect these guys:

- The 26th roster spot makes stashing a 3rd offensive minded backup catcher on the roster much more palatable, so if a guy develops into a Robinson Chirinos type that will be much less of a bummer than it used to be
- We're likely to see an automated zone in two years, which should lower the bar defensively, and possibly also allow catchers to progress through the system faster
- The NL DH is probably also coming in two years, so if we get lucky and hit on more than one of those guys (or if Amaya is a star) there's less worry about guys being blocked because there are more reasonable paths to playing time

In terms of things that I'm excited about on the farm this year the confluence of talent at Myrtle Beach is the clear #1 but the catching pipeline is probably #2.
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