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2020 Fall Instructs

Postby Bertz » Fri Sep 18, 2020 5:19 pm

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Re: 2020 Fall Instructs

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Fri Sep 18, 2020 5:36 pm

Wish it was more than 20 games for minor leaguers but it’s better than nothing.

I assume the Cubs will have their normal instructs before spring training in February 2021.
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Re: 2020 Fall Instructs

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Mon Sep 21, 2020 3:15 pm

BA says the Cubs will be playing 17 games (the least of any team in Arizona), from October 14 - November 7: https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories ... gin-oct-5/

But everyone will get between 17 games (the Cubs) and 40 games (the ambitious Padres who doubled up for two games on six different days) against outside competition. The games will provide needed innings and at-bats for minor leaguers, especially for those who did not get invitations to the alternate sites during the MLB season.

The decision will also be significant financially for those minor leaguers. Unlike past years, minor leaguers are being paid for instructional league (the amount of pay will be determined by the level the players would have been assigned to if the year had gone according to plan), so for players participating, it means another month (or more) of paychecks.
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Re: 2020 Fall Instructs

Postby Named After Maddux » Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:33 pm

I figured this would be the case, but Brennen Davis mentioned he would be participating in Fall instructs. He did note he’d be starting a couple weeks late. I’m presuming that’s to just give him a break.
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Re: 2020 Fall Instructs

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First day on the fields is today
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Re: 2020 Fall Instructs

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Sun Oct 04, 2020 3:12 am

Rosters are out: https://www.thecubreporter.com/10042020 ... gue-roster

Most glaring omissions appear to be Carraway, Clarke, Davis, Estrada, Franklin, Herz, Jensen, McAvene and the Thompsons.
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Re: 2020 Fall Instructs

Postby TomtheBombadil » Sun Oct 04, 2020 3:30 am

I'm most looking forward to hearing anything at all about these players at instructs:

Ed Howard IV (SS)
Kevin Made (SS)
* Joel Machado
Richard Gallardo
Koen Moreno
Cam Sanders
* Ethan Hearn
* Ronnier Quintero
Rafael Morel (SS)
Chase Strumpf (2B)
Luis Vazquez (SS-2B)
Luis Verdugo (SS-3B)
* Andy Weber (SS-2B)
* Yohendrick Pinango
* Cole Roederer
Cory Abbott

Tyler Schlaffer was playing some ball before instructs:

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Re: 2020 Fall Instructs

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:57 pm

Sounds like Kohl Franklin and a few more might be there too.

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Re: 2020 Fall Instructs

Postby TomtheBombadil » Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:14 pm

This is interesting from AZPhil:

https://www.thecubreporter.com/comment/ ... ent-268279

Abbott, Balego, Hudson, Marquez, Megill, C. Morel, Rivas, and Strumpf were supposed to play for the Mesa Solar Sox in the AFL, but Marquez got called up to MLB on the last day of the MLB regular season and the other seven got diverted to AZ Instructs when the AFL season was canceled last month.

Otherwise, the guys who were playing "sim" games at the Alternate Training Site for three months (including Jack Patterson) are done.


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Re: 2020 Fall Instructs

Postby Bertz » Tue Oct 13, 2020 12:49 pm

Have we gotten any further indication why Jensen, McAvene, and Clarke aren't there? Are they all injured? I follow the minors pretty closely and I've never heard of a good half-dozen pitchers down there right now (like who the hell is Ben Leeper?), so those three being missing is super weird.
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Re: 2020 Fall Instructs

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:46 pm

Bertz wrote:Have we gotten any further indication why Jensen, McAvene, and Clarke aren't there? Are they all injured? I follow the minors pretty closely and I've never heard of a good half-dozen pitchers down there right now (like who the hell is Ben Leeper?), so those three being missing is super weird.


Bryan Smith indicated there are more pitchers at instructs than on the roster. Since then we’ve seen Kohl Franklin pop up doing a bullpen while not on a roster so hopefully we hear good news on the health of some of the others:

Bleacher Nation wrote:There are more people in Arizona than on the “official” roster.

Brett mentioned this in his post, but I wanted to confirm that there are at least a handful more pitchers I know about that are in Arizona but not on the roster. For now, those pitchers are slated to throw side bullpens and work on pitch design with the Cubs pitching development team. Whether or not those players eventually replace others on the roster and participate in games, I’m not sure.

Behind the scenes, the Cubs have kept up with their minor leaguers since the Spring Training shutdown via their “Ivy” app, tracking throwing and lifting schedules and offering advice where appropriate. For some of the guys who have been really active to get their innings in, the Cubs are more concerned about managing their workload, and happy to keep them merely throwing bullpens. For others with less accessibility to good mounds, or guys with significant inning projections in 2021, getting in-game reps this month was more important. This was what the Cubs balanced when they specifically picked what pitchers would make up the roster.


BA says it’s due to innings limits (but we’ve seen Franklin pop up since):

BA wrote:Beyond that trio, some of the system's best pitching prospects, including righthanders Kohl Franklin, Chris Clarke, Ryan Jensen and Riley Thompson are not on the roster. Sources with the Cubs indicate that some of the organization's pitchers accumulated their required innings through a virtual training program.


Ben Leeper is an NDFA signed after the last draft from Oklahoma State.
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Re: 2020 Fall Instructs

Postby Bertz » Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:16 pm

Thanks Raisin! I wonder if they've also been doing work at Driveline-esque facilities, similar to what we've been seeing Ethan Roberts post periodically. Get into one of those places once every month or two in addition to your normal work, share the data and video with your coaches, and suddenly that's probably not too dissimilar from what's happening at Instructs.
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Re: 2020 Fall Instructs

Postby CubsWin » Wed Oct 14, 2020 1:08 pm

Bertz wrote:Thanks Raisin! I wonder if they've also been doing work at Driveline-esque facilities, similar to what we've been seeing Ethan Roberts post periodically. Get into one of those places once every month or two in addition to your normal work, share the data and video with your coaches, and suddenly that's probably not too dissimilar from what's happening at Instructs.

That's the sense I got listening to Cubs brass talk about the Ivy app. It seems the player can upload video of themselves and data. Then the instructors could give feedback for the player's next workout. I have no info on how often the player would work out at a facility but I would guess is would be more than once a month.
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Re: 2020 Fall Instructs

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From top left, in clockwise order, that’s Luke Little, Koen Moreno, Jordan Nwogu and Ed Howard IV.
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Re: 2020 Fall Instructs

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:37 am

Arizona Phil on the first Instructs game: https://www.thecubreporter.com/10152020 ... -instructs

In their pro debuts, Ed Howard went 1/1 with a PH double and a walk while Jordan Nwogu went 0/1 with a HBP.
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Re: 2020 Fall Instructs

Postby TomtheBombadil » Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:55 am

Abbot giving up two HRs sucks, but at least one was to a guy who may be a tippy top prospect in the sport this time next year (Marco Luciano)

Howard's going to be such a beast unless he doesn't
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Re: 2020 Fall Instructs

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Fri Oct 16, 2020 5:18 pm

This is from the Athletic on other pitchers at Instructs not pitching in games like Kohl Franklin and Burl Carraway:

Despite not being on the instructional league roster, Carraway has been in Arizona working with about 15 other pitchers who won’t see game action.

“Those guys, we wanted to get here, throw in the lab, get all our high-performance baseline measurements done,” Dorey said. “Then (director of pitching Craig Breslow) and his staff could do a more accurate, up-to-date offseason program for each one of those guys. We’re really lucky to have the bandwidth and the commitment from the front office and ownership to bring out these extra guys and run them through all this. A lot of those pitchers were all guys that adhered to and had the ability to adhere to the shutdown recommended throwing, so they’d built up to pretty close to their threshold of innings for the calendar year. So we didn’t want to expose them to come pitch in these games and push into an uncomfortable workload.”


Cory Abbott is throwing because he didn’t have enough innings this summer:

“Corey was in major-league camp but had a little bit of a setback physically and then the shutdown hit,” Dorey said. “So he was ramping up when that happened, so he was behind a lot of our other pitchers just timeline-wise. He did a great job building back up and showed the staff he was ready to come to South Bend.”

Then during the intake process at South Bend, a procedural issue delayed Abbott another 10 days. That forced him to re-ramp up and by the end of his time in South Bend, they still had more work for him to do, which is why he’s on the instructional league roster and pitched the opener on Wednesday.
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Re: 2020 Fall Instructs

Postby TomtheBombadil » Fri Oct 16, 2020 6:39 pm

^^ Thanks CR, Cubs aren't the first org I've read about a bunch of pitchers getting a good chunk of their work in this Summer. I wonder how that worked?

BN has some of the Dorey quotes on Howard:

“Ultimately, on the offensive side, he has pretty elite bat speed and exit velocities.”

Dorey identifies a compact and “flat swing” from Howard which can be a strength, but it sounds like they’re working on elevating a bit more to induce some natural power: “…he has the ability to do some damage by getting the ball in the air, without changing his approach. Because he has a really advanced approach and uses the middle and off-side of the field. But he just needs to know he can take more chances in those advantage hitting counts and do more damage.”


and Burl Carraway:

“The fastball has elite carry traits and premium, high-end velocity,” Dorey said. “The curveball is power swing-and-miss, a 12-to-6 hammer. The slider is a nice complement off of that. He worked on that a lot in South Bend and again in instructionals.”
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Re: 2020 Fall Instructs

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Sun Oct 18, 2020 2:43 am

Another box score from the Valley of the Sun:
The https://www.thecubreporter.com/10182020 ... -instructs

Manuel Rodríguez back from his ST injury. Kevin Made made his pro debut. Ed Howard IV went 1/3 with a single. Both Morel brothers got a hit.
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