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Postby weis21 » Wed Sep 27, 2017 2:21 am

I've already read a similar article about Chris but damn if this didn't have me in tears after reading it. What an outstanding man. Good Lord, what our country could learn if they approached life more like this young man.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/m ... 701717001/
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Postby Regular Show » Wed Sep 27, 2017 2:36 am

weis21 wrote:I've already read a similar article about Chris but damn if this didn't have me in tears after reading it. What an outstanding man. Good Lord, what our country could learn if they approached life more like this young man.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/m ... 701717001/


Yeah. I'm really happy the Cubs drafted him and if his baseball career doesn't work out I wouldn't mind the Cubs organization keeping him around as a coach or mentor for the younger players.
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Postby Guancous » Mon Oct 02, 2017 11:48 pm

The fallout from the Braves investigation might be huge:
The investigation remains open and is expected to look into the signing of top prospect Kevin Maitan, a 17-year-old shortstop who received a $4.25 million bonus last year. If improprieties are discovered with Maitan’s signing, he, too, could be declared a free agent


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Postby TomtheBombadil » Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:53 am

Jim Callis wrote:Few pitchers have made a bigger splash with one four-inning outing in Rookie ball than Albertos did in 2016 in the Rookie-level Arizona League. The Cubs shut the right-hander down after that start because he had forearm soreness, but it was enough for those who saw him to believe that he might have more upside than any pitching prospect in the organization.

Chicago continued to handle Albertos carefully in 2017 because he's still just 18. He pitched 43 innings between the AZL and the Short-Season Northwest League, continuing to wow scouts with a fastball that can reach 97 mph and a very advanced changeup. If he continues to make strides with his slurvy breaking ball and his command, he could be a No. 2 or 3 starter for the Cubs.


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Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Thu Nov 02, 2017 8:15 pm

BA is hemorrhaging talent. A couple of years after Jim Callis and Aaron Fitt left, John Manuel and Will Lingo are leaving.
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Postby davell » Thu Nov 02, 2017 8:55 pm

CaliforniaRaisin wrote:BA is hemorrhaging talent. A couple of years after Jim Callis and Aaron Fitt left, John Manuel and Will Lingo are leaving.


Yeah, they're not looking like they'll make it too much longer, in my mind.
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Postby TomtheBombadil » Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:22 pm

I would strongly suggest BA hire me.
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Postby Regular Show » Fri Nov 03, 2017 3:49 am

CaliforniaRaisin wrote:BA is hemorrhaging talent. A couple of years after Jim Callis and Aaron Fitt left, John Manuel and Will Lingo are leaving.


Wow, that makes me sad. I loved reading the Q&A when Callis ran it while he was there. I don't even go to BA that much anymore. In-depth prospect and minor league coverage all over the internet is getting better.

For now, BA is still the top source around draft time and super valuable for draftniks. They do need to hire some good young talent or they'll become irrelevant pretty soon.
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Postby philosophizer75 » Sat Nov 04, 2017 12:45 am

Decent article, but it doesn't seem all that strange to me that "HE NEVER TOUCHED A BASEBALL TIL HE WAS 6"
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Postby Cubswin11 » Sat Nov 04, 2017 12:48 am

I hate getting hopes up over pitching prospects, especially dreaming of a mid to high end SP prospect but damn I’m hopeful for him
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Postby TBS Playoffs Insider » Tue Nov 07, 2017 8:26 pm

philosophizer75 wrote:Decent article, but it doesn't seem all that strange to me that "HE NEVER TOUCHED A BASEBALL TIL HE WAS 6"


wow he's so raw, he's only been playing baseball for 16 years. He's basically a newbie
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Postby Cubswin11 » Tue Nov 07, 2017 8:43 pm

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philosophizer75 wrote:Decent article, but it doesn't seem all that strange to me that "HE NEVER TOUCHED A BASEBALL TIL HE WAS 6"


wow he's so raw, he's only been playing baseball for 16 years. He's basically a newbie

We've all heard the cautionary tales of 3 year olds burning out their arms, good thing he waited
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Postby Regular Show » Wed Nov 08, 2017 4:40 am

Cubswin11 wrote:
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philosophizer75 wrote:Decent article, but it doesn't seem all that strange to me that "HE NEVER TOUCHED A BASEBALL TIL HE WAS 6"


wow he's so raw, he's only been playing baseball for 16 years. He's basically a newbie

We've all heard the cautionary tales of 3 year olds burning out their arms, good thing he waited


Are kids that young suppose to play with a full-size baseball? Like I thought I read somewhere that they encourage kids to play with a softer lighter baseball before their bodies/arms physically mature. I honestly can't recall little league baseball anymore, but I do remember the ball being a little bit different. I could be wrong... Anyway, when I play with my nephews I just use tennis balls.
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Postby TomtheBombadil » Wed Nov 08, 2017 4:19 pm

Regular Show wrote:
Cubswin11 wrote:
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wow he's so raw, he's only been playing baseball for 16 years. He's basically a newbie

We've all heard the cautionary tales of 3 year olds burning out their arms, good thing he waited


Are kids that young suppose to play with a full-size baseball? Like I thought I read somewhere that they encourage kids to play with a softer lighter baseball before their bodies/arms physically mature. I honestly can't recall little league baseball anymore, but I do remember the ball being a little bit different. I could be wrong... Anyway, when I play with my nephews I just use tennis balls.


It’s probably coaches teaching these kids the dang curveball!
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Postby Cubswin11 » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:30 pm

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Postby Hrubes20 » Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:29 pm

Cubswin11 wrote:horsefeathers



It was horsefeathering pancreatic cancer. A 17 year old had late-stage pancreatic cancer. That horsefeathers should be reserved for 70 year old alcoholics who drank their lives away, not 17 year olds. Just terrible.
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Postby javy knows my name » Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:45 pm

Hrubes20 wrote:
Cubswin11 wrote:horsefeathers



It was horsefeathering pancreatic cancer. A 17 year old had late-stage pancreatic cancer. That horsefeathers should be reserved for 70 year old alcoholics who drank their lives away, not 17 year olds. Just terrible.


Ugh oh my god I want to throw up
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Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Wed Nov 15, 2017 5:58 pm



Felt like the Cubs minor league arms were making some nice progress the last year or two, so this can't be considered great news. Second minor league pitching coordinator raided by another team since 2016.
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Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Thu Nov 30, 2017 8:30 pm

Stan: Albertos or De la Cruz? (Or neither…)
Keith Law: Albertos. Alzolay is their best pitching prospect. De la Cruz has no track record of health.
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Postby JeffH » Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:16 am

If Alzolay is our best pitching prospect, we're doomed. Guy looks like a reliever. Strop-ish. There's nothing wrong with that, but as your top guy? Ouch.
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Postby davell » Sat Dec 02, 2017 3:30 am

JeffH wrote:If Alzolay is our best pitching prospect, we're doomed. Guy looks like a reliever. Strop-ish. There's nothing wrong with that, but as your top guy? Ouch.


He's a top 100 guy for Law and Longenhagen. I don't think he's looked at as a Strop type at this stage at all by anyone.

Don't get me wrong, I'd trade him while his value is where it is currently, but he's got nice upside.
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Postby toonsterwu » Sat Dec 02, 2017 4:39 am

JeffH wrote:If Alzolay is our best pitching prospect, we're doomed. Guy looks like a reliever. Strop-ish. There's nothing wrong with that, but as your top guy? Ouch.


The optimistic outlook on Alzolay is basically to buy in what the Cubs are selling and that his secondaries both are borderline plus, thus, you'd have a guy with three quality pitches that has decent/solid command, with a small sample of successful production in AA. Considering the age, it's really fine.

Not saying I buy the optimistic outlook, but Alzolay as the top guy isn't bad. I mean, it's not like people are saying he's the Cubs pitching prospect with the highest ceiling. The phrasing in Keith Law's comments seems to suggest a blend of ceiling and polish, and so placing Alzolay as the top guy in the system is fair, as de la Cruz hasn't stayed healthy and Albertos is a couple years behind.
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Postby Cubswin11 » Sat Dec 02, 2017 5:01 am

JeffH wrote:If Alzolay is our best pitching prospect, we're doomed. Guy looks like a reliever. Strop-ish. There's nothing wrong with that, but as your top guy? Ouch.

Pedro Strop is a pretty damn good relief pitcher, if most of our pitching prospects can turn in to that I’m completely fine with it with the nature of their suckage. I know there’s a want for more and would be nice develop some middle rotation guys at least but middle-high end RPs aren’t bad outcomes for most minor league pitching prospect.
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Postby Regular Show » Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:59 am

Cubswin11 wrote:
JeffH wrote:If Alzolay is our best pitching prospect, we're doomed. Guy looks like a reliever. Strop-ish. There's nothing wrong with that, but as your top guy? Ouch.

Pedro Strop is a pretty damn good relief pitcher, if most of our pitching prospects can turn in to that I’m completely fine with it with the nature of their suckage. I know there’s a want for more and would be nice develop some middle rotation guys at least but middle-high end RPs aren’t bad outcomes for most minor league pitching prospect.


Yeah. I agree with that sentiment completely. If many, not even most, of the pitching prospects in your system can at least become useful middle-high end relief pitchers -- you should be damn happy. I consider P. Strop to be a fine outcome for many of our pitching prospects. You do hope one or two will develop into a #3 or #4 starter.

That said, elite bullpens are expensive and hard to build. Having elite RPs in your bullpen is especially important come playoff time. The Cubs need some young pitchers to come up and have an impact either in the bullpen or the starting rotation.
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