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Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Thu Jul 06, 2017 7:50 pm

Gordo did the Cubs mid season report for BA. On Cease and Maples: http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/d ... UeyErJO.99

“He’s picked up where he left off,” farm director Jaron Madison said of the 21-year-old’s return from the injury. Madison lauded Cease for unusual-for-his-age command of his velocity and a plus curveball.

Expect Cease to get at least a taste of high Class A Myrtle Beach before his season innings limit runs out.


“We’ve got a lot of tough (40-man) roster decisions this offseason,” Madison said. “He’s one of them.”

Maples, 25, still has the elite velocity—he touched 100 mph this season—with a excellent breaking ball.

“He’s always had potential and always shown signs and shown flashes of what he could do, but he could never put the pieces together to have success,” Madison said. “He’s really just taken off and excited everyone that’s seen him so far. Except for the hitters.”
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Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Thu Jul 06, 2017 8:51 pm

BP midseason top 50: http://www.baseballprospectus.com/artic ... leid=32224

Eloy is the only Cub, coming at #8.

8. Eloy Jimenez, OF, Chicago Cubs

Why He’ll Succeed: Jimenez is the first prospect on our list that is likely to end up pretty far right on the defensive spectrum. So you’d expect a hell of a bat. Jimenez looks like he will deliver with thirty home run pop and more hit tool utility and approach than you’d expect from the still-accurate-descriptor “classic right field profile.”

Why He Might Fail: Jimenez is the first prospect on our list who is likely to end up pretty far right on the defensive spectrum. So there better be a hell of a bat.


BP's top 10:

1. Yoan Moncada, 2B, White Sox
2. Amed Rosario, SS, Mets
3. Francisco Mejia, C, Indians
4. Victor Robles, OF, Washington
5. Rafael Devers, 3B, Red Sox
6. Brendan Rogers, SS, Rockies
7. Gleyber Torres, SS, Yankees
8. Eloy Jimenez, OF, Cubs
9. Alex Reyes, RHP, Cardinals
10. Lewis Brinson, OF, Brewers
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Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Fri Jul 07, 2017 2:10 pm

BA's midseason top 100: http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/2 ... ?amphtml=1

Eloy Jimenez up to 5 from 11. Dylan Cease up to 82 from 90. No other Cubs.

BA's top 10:

1. Yoan Moncada, 2B, White Sox
2. Vlad Guerrero Jr, 3B, Blue Jays
3. Gleyber Torres, SS, Yankees
4. Amed Rosario, SS, Mets
5. Eloy Jimenez, OF, Cubs
6. Rafael Devers, 3B, Red Sox
7. Brendan Rogers, SS, Rockies
8. Victor Robles, OF, Nationals
9. Nick Senzel, 3B, Reds
10. Ronald Aruna, OF, Braves

No pitchers in BA's top ten. Only one in BP's (and he recently had TJS). I wonder if this is a sign of things to come on these lists.

Like BP's list, 8 of BA's top 10 are Latin American IFA signings.
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Postby David » Fri Jul 07, 2017 2:37 pm

wonder where happ would've ranked had he continued to destroy in AAA
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Postby TomtheBombadil » Fri Jul 07, 2017 11:17 pm

CaliforniaRaisin wrote:BA's midseason top 100: http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/2 ... ?amphtml=1

Eloy Jimenez up to 5 from 11. Dylan Cease up to 82 from 90. No other Cubs.

BA's top 10:

1. Yoan Moncada, 2B, White Sox
2. Vlad Guerrero Jr, 3B, Blue Jays
3. Gleyber Torres, SS, Yankees
4. Amed Rosario, SS, Mets
5. Eloy Jimenez, OF, Cubs
6. Rafael Devers, 3B, Red Sox
7. Brendan Rogers, SS, Rockies
8. Victor Robles, OF, Nationals
9. Nick Senzel, 3B, Reds
10. Ronald Aruna, OF, Braves


Superstars

Torres kind of sticks out like a sore thumb in between those two.
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Postby We Got The Whole 9 » Sun Jul 09, 2017 8:18 pm

Not sure where to talk about the Futures game but man Honeywell just dropped a gorgeous screwball on Rosario
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Postby We Got The Whole 9 » Sun Jul 09, 2017 9:22 pm

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Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Mon Jul 10, 2017 3:03 pm

Brent Honeywell was almost a Cub: http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/b ... rime-time/

That was the draft where Honeywell wasn’t picked at all, but after one season at Walters State (Tenn.) JC, he vaulted up draft boards. As the draft approached, he had a series of workouts, including one at Wrigley Field for the Cubs. Chicago officials have noted it over the years with regret. Honeywell called it the “best bullpen I’ve ever thrown” Saturday. A Cubs source contacted Sunday confirmed club officials argued about drafting Honeywell high despite their limited looks at him, with the argument being about process versus the wicked workout they’d just seen.

In the end, the Cubs hoped to sneak him to their third-round pick at No. 78 overall. The Rays instead took him at No. 72 in the supplemental second round, signed him for $800,000 and have helped him blossom into the game’s top healthy pitching prospect.

“They knew exactly where I was going to go,” Honeywell said in retrospect. “That’s on them, you know? I’m not saying I don’t want to be a Cub later on. But some things happened, back door, you know how it goes on in the draft.”


Pick 78 ended up being Zagunis.
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Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Tue Jul 11, 2017 2:15 pm

Transmogrified Tiger wrote:Brent Honeywell was almost a Cub: http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/b ... rime-time/

That was the draft where Honeywell wasn’t picked at all, but after one season at Walters State (Tenn.) JC, he vaulted up draft boards. As the draft approached, he had a series of workouts, including one at Wrigley Field for the Cubs. Chicago officials have noted it over the years with regret. Honeywell called it the “best bullpen I’ve ever thrown” Saturday. A Cubs source contacted Sunday confirmed club officials argued about drafting Honeywell high despite their limited looks at him, with the argument being about process versus the wicked workout they’d just seen.

In the end, the Cubs hoped to sneak him to their third-round pick at No. 78 overall. The Rays instead took him at No. 72 in the supplemental second round, signed him for $800,000 and have helped him blossom into the game’s top healthy pitching prospect.

“They knew exactly where I was going to go,” Honeywell said in retrospect. “That’s on them, you know? I’m not saying I don’t want to be a Cub later on. But some things happened, back door, you know how it goes on in the draft.”


Pick 78 ended up being Zagunis.


It definitely disappoints to read that and then remember the Cubs were heavy linked to Jack Flaherty with their 2nd round pick the same year. The Cardinals picked him right before the Cubs 2nd rounder, who ended up being Jake Stinnett.

Admittedly every team has a few stories like that.
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Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Fri Jul 14, 2017 8:39 pm

BA Prospect Hot Sheet:

16. Isaac Paredes, SS, Cubs (18)
Low Class A South Bend (Midwest)

One of the youngest players in the Midwest League, Paredes managed to hold his own in the first half of the season, but he’s ramped it up to a new level over the past month. He’s hit five home runs since June 9, showing the power the Cubs expect to grow as he matures.


18. Adbert Alzolay, RHP, Cubs (22)
Double-A Tennessee (Southern)

If Spencer Adams keeps sliding down the White Sox’s prospect list because of trades, Alzolay is on an express elevator up the Cubs list. A lot of it is his doing as he’s shown stuff and feel this year, but his soon to be updated midseason ranking has also risen a lot is also because of trades and graduations.
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Postby TomtheBombadil » Sun Jul 16, 2017 4:46 pm

http://wrigleyville.locals.baseballpros ... pect-spot/

BP Wrigleyville piece makes a case for Albertos as the Cubs' new #1 prospect.

http://www.cubsinsider.com/2017/07/15/c ... rning-bat/

Profile on Ademan, who is more than holding his own in the NWL right now (.273/.344/.400 with a ~17% K rate in 123 PAs).
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Postby CubsWin » Wed Jul 19, 2017 1:21 am

This is hilarious. Dan Vogelbach and 3 other Mariners AAA guys were forced to take a $683 Uber ride to make their game in Albuquerque.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2722362-mariners-minor-leaguers-take-7-hour-uber-trip-from-arizona-to-new-mexico?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial

I hope it was an UberXL. Can you imagine squeezing into the backseat with Vogelbach for a 7-hour ride?
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Postby We Got The Whole 9 » Wed Jul 19, 2017 1:55 am

Nobody would make him sit in the back
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Postby CubsWin » Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:30 am

We Got The Whole 9 wrote:Nobody would make him sit in the back

I don't know. Pat Light was also in the car, and he's 6'5", 220. He might have called shotgun for the leg room...
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Postby TomtheBombadil » Thu Jul 20, 2017 12:49 am

Consensus top 100 prospect entering 2017 based at least a little on being stateside at 17 playing ball well, Leodys Taveras, in full season A- ball:

.251/.305/.356 with a 16.1% K rate in 386 PAs

Isaac Paredes:

.264/.348/.409 with a 14.4% K rate in 341 PAs
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Postby TBS Playoffs Insider » Thu Jul 20, 2017 1:58 am

TomtheBombadil wrote:Consensus top 100 prospect entering 2017 based at least a little on being stateside at 17 playing ball well, Leodys Taveras, in full season A- ball:

.251/.305/.356 with a 16.1% K rate in 386 PAs

Isaac Paredes:

.264/.348/.409 with a 14.4% K rate in 341 PAs


pretty sure that means that taveras was just overrated
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Postby davell » Sat Jul 22, 2017 1:36 am

Keith Law: It’ll really depend more on the secondary stuff than on performance.
Preston: What’s a realistic return for the Cubs if Candelario is the lead to a package of prospects? Certainly not high-impact RP like Britton, right?
Keith Law: I don’t think so, but I’ve always been a little bearish on his defense. He can hit though.

Jake: Do the Cubs have the pieces necessary to acquire Gray, Darvish or Verlander?
Keith Law: I would not think so.

Nick: Seems like this Adzolay has really picked it up this year. Think he’s a top 100 type, and where do you see his ceiling?
Keith Law: Had I continued past ranking 50 names, he would have been in the next ten

Ed: I had some sticker shock after the Quintana trade, and while I am feeling better about it (Q’s first start helped!) I’m still disappointed to see Cease go given the Cubs inability to develop pitching. Where did you have Cease fitting in with the pitchers in the Cubs’ latest draft? 3rd behind Little and Lange?
Keith Law: Cease > Lange. I don’t think Lange is a starter in the long run.

David: Is Jen-ho Tseng a realistic back of rotation piece in a year or 2 or just an org guy?
Keith Law: Back of the rotation possibility, bullpen likely, much more than an org guy.
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Postby Hrubes20 » Sat Jul 22, 2017 8:08 pm

davell wrote:
Nick: Seems like this Adzolay has really picked it up this year. Think he’s a top 100 type, and where do you see his ceiling?
Keith Law: Had I continued past ranking 50 names, he would have been in the next ten



Top 60 overall for Alzolay? Law must have better reports on the secondaries than what I've seen.
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Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Tue Jul 25, 2017 1:35 pm

MLB.com/Callis updated their lists, the new Cubs Top 30: http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2017?list=chc

The top 10 is:

Candelario
De La Cruz
Albertos
Alzolay
Lange
Little
Caratini
Hatch
Zagunis
Paredes

Rucker does not make the Top 30.
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Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Tue Jul 25, 2017 2:49 pm

Transmogrified Tiger wrote:Rucker does not make the Top 30.


Well, you just can't pass up an oppprtunity to put Pierce Johnson in a Top 30.
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Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Tue Jul 25, 2017 4:19 pm

CaliforniaRaisin wrote:
Transmogrified Tiger wrote:Rucker does not make the Top 30.


Well, you just can't pass up an oppprtunity to put Pierce Johnson in a Top 30.


Or Chesny Young in a Top 20.
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Postby We Got The Whole 9 » Wed Jul 26, 2017 4:00 pm

So much better than Canseco's. Jose was a couple feet from the wall, this dude hadn't even hit the track yet lol

Also those comments are on point, same thing I thought: his swing is just like Bellinger's.
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Postby Little Slide Rooter » Sat Jul 29, 2017 5:13 pm

Are there any updates on De La Cruz, or did he just kind of cease to be?
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