I guess this is more a postseason re-rank? They'll have a new top 100 out during the offseason, but still it seems fair to say he'll be a top 20 prospect in baseball. This is almost a decade old, maybe still has some use:

TomtheBombadil wrote:Start it off with some good stuff...Davis is BA’s 18th ranked prospect right now:
I guess this is more a postseason re-rank? They'll have a new top 100 out during the offseason, but still it seems fair to say he'll be a top 20 prospect in baseball. This is almost a decade old, maybe still has some use:
If you buy into him sticking at SS
WrigleyField 22 wrote:Is there room on the internet for two NSB websites?
https://northsidebound.com/2021/11/01/i ... ide-bound/
TomtheBombadil wrote:I <3 NAM's stuff but can't wrap my head around Kevin Made being so high on performance when that's a .662 OPS (.sub-.300 OBP), 1.59 GO/AO, and 6/57 BB:K in 243 PAs. To be that high with that kind of offensive performance this catch shouldn't be in the player's profile:If you buy into him sticking at SS
That player has to be either a much better hitter or much more certain SS ( ideally both and at the same time), for sure the bar can't be that he was better here or there than a struggling first year player and a guy a level below with maybe a more promising debut. Made's got some tools for SS but his arm isn't as strong as say Howard's or Luis Vazquez's, and to tap into his power it's not hard to see him filling out and ending up as a 2B/3B or even utility guy. He's also the only sub-6fter in the SS group outside of like Pedro Ramirez, who at least early seems most likely to end up more a 2B/IF bat
Site looks fun, will peruse!
CaliforniaRaisin wrote:WrigleyField 22 wrote:Is there room on the internet for two NSB websites?
https://northsidebound.com/2021/11/01/i ... ide-bound/
With Greg writing on both.
WrigleyField 22 wrote:CaliforniaRaisin wrote:WrigleyField 22 wrote:Is there room on the internet for two NSB websites?
https://northsidebound.com/2021/11/01/i ... ide-bound/
With Greg writing on both.
Who's that?
weis21 wrote:WrigleyField 22 wrote:CaliforniaRaisin wrote:
With Greg writing on both.
Who's that?
Named after maddux
UMFan83 wrote:I thought it was another Tim venture at first
"Northside" with a logo featuring a baseball and a compass. Did you get that classic NSBB logo trademarked Tim?
Named After Maddux wrote:I reached out to some Cubs hitting contacts just to see if I was out of my mind and the feedback I received (obviously unsourced) is that they feel Made belongs in the (no particular order) Triantos, Caissie, Alcantara, PCA, and Hernandez group. But I also was quickly told that Preciado should be in there too. So I wouldn’t be surprised if I’m too high on Made and too low on Preciado. But I’m letting it ride!
Bertz wrote:Named After Maddux wrote:I reached out to some Cubs hitting contacts just to see if I was out of my mind and the feedback I received (obviously unsourced) is that they feel Made belongs in the (no particular order) Triantos, Caissie, Alcantara, PCA, and Hernandez group. But I also was quickly told that Preciado should be in there too. So I wouldn’t be surprised if I’m too high on Made and too low on Preciado. But I’m letting it ride!
Tons of great stuff Greg, but this really stands out to me. I'm not totally surprised, but I'm intrigued that those six are all lumped together by the org. It makes sense, aside from Brennen if we're going to get a star out of the farm it's most likely to be from that grouping, but good to see the org's thinking is in line with what seems apparent from the public side. With how much information asymmetry there is nowadays that alignment is not always something to take for granted.
craig wrote:Greg or others, I haven't had a chance to carefully read all of the reports you've got. But in skimming a couple of the pitchers, I noticed a couple of references to the Cubs prospects and "long arm path".
Can you or others with pitching expertise comment briefly on the impact that has? The pros-and-cons of longer delivery versus a shorter one? If the Cubs are fine with it, but some other smart teams are not, I'd be curious to understand the pros-and-cons logic from either/both sides of the issue.
Not sure what's all at play. Injury risk? Deception or lack thereof? Holding runners and getting stolen against? Repeatability, the ability to keep sync and rhythm, resulting control, and command? Tunneling? Velocity? Spin rates? The ability to throw different pitches with the same arm slot and arm speed?
So yeah, if you or others might be able to summarize why some teams value/prefer/recommend shorter/quicker arm paths would be helpful. And then if possible to summarize the Cubs logic that longer arm path is fine and is not a liability, that would be helpful too.
Thanks in advance!
While there are no peer-reviewed studies on whether it's a safer arm path, only one of Cleveland's major-league pitchers (Cody Anderson) has had Tommy John surgery since 2015, tying the Chicago Cubs for the lowest mark in the majors. (Mike Clevinger had Tommy John after being traded by Cleveland to San Diego.)
craig wrote:Thanks, Bertz, that was a really helpful and interesting article. Seems not surprising that the Cubs are rarely near the cutting edge on developments like this.
Named After Maddux wrote:Always appreciate the support! Honestly I’m on an island with Made and it’s aggressive, like very aggressive. Part of that is trying to reconcile how I balance something more tangible in statistics and metrics vs the intangible in the eye test. I don’t have a full scouting background so the latter is going to have a much higher variance. I may nail a couple players, but will likely miss on more as I try to refine it. I really buy what I’m seeing which is an 18 year old who showed off strong bat to ball skills against 22-24 year olds in tough parks. The athleticism was better than I thought too. I dunno. Honestly I just feel convicted. That’s the fun of it. It might be a total flop!
That defense line about SS was sloppy and that’s my bad. I totally think he has the athleticism to stick at SS. His ranking would be around 12th if he was a 2B/3B projection.
I reached out to some Cubs hitting contacts just to see if I was out of my mind and the feedback I received (obviously unsourced) is that they feel Made belongs in the (no particular order) Triantos, Caissie, Alcantara, PCA, and Hernandez group. But I also was quickly told that Preciado should be in there too. So I wouldn’t be surprised if I’m too high on Made and too low on Preciado. But I’m letting it ride!
Glad you like the site! It’s been a blast building it.
It took Velazquez time to really find a rhythm with his adjusted swing. He got early results, but according to Stone, that was because of his special exit velocity. Stone said that there are three hitters in the Cubs’ system who are productive hitters that hit the ball at a different speed than everyone else. One is Brennen Davis, the Cubs’ top prospect who’s widely considered one of the best position-player prospects in baseball. Another is Owen Caissie, who reportedly hits the ball as hard as any player in professional baseball. And then there’s Velazquez.
CaliforniaRaisin wrote:BA Cubs top 10: https://www.baseballamerica.com/teams/1 ... izational/
1 Brennen Davis OF
2 Cristian Hernandez SS
3 Brailyn Marquez LHP
4 Pete Crow-Armstrong OF
5 Jordan Wicks LHP
6 Kevin Alcantara OF
7 Caleb Kilian RHP
8 Owen Caissie oF
9 D.J. Herz LHP
10 Yohendrick Pinango OF
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