Warren Brusstar wrote:
Warren Brusstar wrote:
Considering Lindor and Baez were taken with consecutive selections, I thought it would be interesting to ask whether or not anyone wishes we had the opportunity to select Lindor instead. Mind you I understand Baez has the much higher upside, but I look at Lindor as being the safe bet top positional prospect we rarely have.
Lindor should develop into a GG caliber shortstop with the level of pitch recognition needed to be an above average leadoff man. Baez though seems to be the exact opposite of Lindor. Doesn't take walks, has massive power and doesn't have the ideal shortstop frame. So what it comes down to is would you prefer to have an above average defensive shortstop with leadoff caliber tools, or Baez's lightning quick bat and hope that his ability to layoff pitchers pitches improves. Maybe I'm just a jaded fan who has seen too many Corey Patterson's over the years but I prefer the prototypical leadoff man to the hacking slugger.
Why are you using these labels?
I prefer the more productive hitter. I don't care what style of hitter either ends up as. What matters is which one ends up being more effective in the production of runs.
Thank you for making the utterly obvious point that you prefer to have the player who will ultimately end up as better run producer in the majors, while still not answering the question. Which player do you think will "up being more effective in the production of runs?"
I'm more concerned with correcting antiquated thinking than I am with answering an obvious question.
It's not an obvious question (which I note you still haven't answered). It's like telling someone you're voting for the candidate that you think will be a better president. Gee, thanks.
In any event, while his labeling is imprecise, unnecessary, and oversimplifies the question as to these specific players, there's nothing "antiquated" about the question whether you would rather have the player with the higher floor or the player with the higher ceiling.
While the right answer is contingent upon the height of each player's floor and ceiling, and the likelihood of reaching various points in between, this is hardly an antiquated issue.
Look at the answers on this page. That's my answer.
There is definitely something antiquated about referring to hitters as "leadoff hitters" and "hacking sluggers" and indicating a preference between the two. It's unnecessary and it's tangential to what really matters. Production.
Roles are [expletive]. Give me 8 really productive hitters, regardless of type, and I guarantee that'll work better than trying to set up a lineup filling different made up roles.