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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby WrigleyField 22 » Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:12 am

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Derwood wrote:Joe Crowley lost his primary to a socialist community organizer

everyone on twitter seems to be setting their hair on fire over this, but really, he's a center-left old white guy in a district which is relatively young, more progressive, and 80% non-white (including 50% hispanic). add in the fact that women have been given a significant boost in the wake of the sexual abuse scandals and that voters with strong connections to puerto rico would be particularly energized to vote for a fellow puerto rican "ex-pat" in the wake of the horrendously bungled hurricane maria response, and this result shouldn't be a big surprise to anybody, regardless of crowley's seniority in the democratic party.

No, this is a big horsefeathering deal no matter what.
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Re: Politics & Current Events

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Derwood wrote:Joe Crowley lost his primary to a socialist community organizer

everyone on twitter seems to be setting their hair on fire over this, but really, he's a center-left old white guy in a district which is relatively young, more progressive, and 80% non-white (including 50% hispanic). add in the fact that women have been given a significant boost in the wake of the sexual abuse scandals and that voters with strong connections to puerto rico would be particularly energized to vote for a fellow puerto rican "ex-pat" in the wake of the horrendously bungled hurricane maria response, and this result shouldn't be a big surprise to anybody, regardless of crowley's seniority in the democratic party.

No, this is a big horsefeathering deal no matter what.


i dunno, i think it's just good because there's no reason that an old white center-right guy should be representing a district like ny-14. i'm glad that it's somebody more representative of the district's diversity and progressive nature, and i think that very safe blue districts should be represented by people with more progressive views. but i don't think it's indicative of a broader trend, since there are plenty of moderate democrats like conor lamb and doug jones running in more red or red-ish districts and who are winning primaries.
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby Banedon » Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:11 am

TruffleShuffle wrote:
Derwood wrote:Joe Crowley lost his primary to a socialist community organizer

everyone on twitter seems to be setting their hair on fire over this, but really, he's a center-left old white guy in a district which is relatively young, more progressive, and 80% non-white (including 50% hispanic). add in the fact that women have been given a significant boost in the wake of the sexual abuse scandals and that voters with strong connections to puerto rico would be particularly energized to vote for a fellow puerto rican "ex-pat" in the wake of the horrendously bungled hurricane maria response, and this result shouldn't be a big surprise to anybody, regardless of crowley's seniority in the democratic party.


Hold on...this "center-left old white guy" has won 10 terms, unopposed. He was set to be the next Speaker and you don't think it's a big deal that he got beat by a 28 year old latina woman with no experience? This is a huge surprise. I don't see how you can look at it any other way.

Of course the district matters, and we shouldn't expect to see DSA candidates win in purple districts or anything, but this is still worth the articles it's going to generate.
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby Banedon » Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:55 am

It's also hilarious to watch the President and the NRCC try to somehow spin this is a good thing for the Republicans.
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby WrigleyField 22 » Wed Jun 27, 2018 12:51 pm

TruffleShuffle wrote:
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TruffleShuffle wrote:everyone on twitter seems to be setting their hair on fire over this, but really, he's a center-left old white guy in a district which is relatively young, more progressive, and 80% non-white (including 50% hispanic). add in the fact that women have been given a significant boost in the wake of the sexual abuse scandals and that voters with strong connections to puerto rico would be particularly energized to vote for a fellow puerto rican "ex-pat" in the wake of the horrendously bungled hurricane maria response, and this result shouldn't be a big surprise to anybody, regardless of crowley's seniority in the democratic party.

No, this is a big horsefeathering deal no matter what.


i dunno, i think it's just good because there's no reason that an old white center-right guy should be representing a district like ny-14. i'm glad that it's somebody more representative of the district's diversity and progressive nature, and i think that very safe blue districts should be represented by people with more progressive views. but i don't think it's indicative of a broader trend, since there are plenty of moderate democrats like conor lamb and doug jones running in more red or red-ish districts and who are winning primaries.

Wait, are there hot takes saying that DSA candidates are gonna start winning purple or even slightly blue districts?

I do imagine that even in redder districts the Democrats probably have more room to go pretty far left and awaken a non active base. Obviously some candidate campaigning on eliminating ICE isn't going to drum up a ton of support in central Ohio or something.
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby WrigleyField 22 » Wed Jun 27, 2018 12:58 pm

Banedon wrote:It's also hilarious to watch the President and the NRCC try to somehow spin this is a good thing for the Republicans.

While it obviously has zero impact on the election map there is probably a legit argument they'd rather have Ocasio Cortez in that seat than middle age white dude.
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Postby squally1313 » Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:46 pm

There are probably bigger takeaways from this, but the encouraging part to me was that she basically got outspent 10-1, and still won handily. It shows that the typical 'apathetic' democrat voters (young, more skewed towards minorities) are taking their own initiative to get involved, do their own research, and (obviously, most importantly) vote. While you aren't going to find many districts as diverse as that one, there are young people everywhere, and if they're as active, that's going to lead to good things come November.
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby Derwood » Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:16 pm

Another 5-4 conservative win in SCOTUS this morning, this time with labor unions
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Postby JudasIscariotTheBird » Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:01 pm

squally1313 wrote:There are probably bigger takeaways from this, but the encouraging part to me was that she basically got outspent 10-1, and still won handily. It shows that the typical 'apathetic' democrat voters (young, more skewed towards minorities) are taking their own initiative to get involved, do their own research, and (obviously, most importantly) vote. While you aren't going to find many districts as diverse as that one, there are young people everywhere, and if they're as active, that's going to lead to good things come November.

There used to be a time when I would say that the better candidate attracts more money and funds to spend, but those days are long gone. I root and support the underfunded candidate almost without fail, now. This is a good thing. (Also, the old white guy partially lost because he didn't know how to campaign, and blew off most everything that was campaign related. )
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby The_Achiever » Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:46 pm

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LOL, blind as a bat.
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby Derwood » Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:54 pm

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When did she go from "representative of the mega-liberal, commie, super gay, hedonistic San Francisco" to "tired old frumpy center-right snoozefest"?
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby squally1313 » Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:00 pm

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When did she go from "representative of the mega-liberal, commie, super gay, hedonistic San Francisco" to "tired old frumpy center-right snoozefest"?




All the handwringing by Pelosi, Schumer, et al after Red Hen and Waters telling people to keep protesting was so telling. To these people, politics is a rich people sport to win or lose. The minute they saw someone like them have their normal cushy life interrupted, they backed right off the calls to resist, to protest, etc. God forbid their standard of living gets threatened.
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Postby CubInOK » Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:01 pm

The Trump-backed candidate for OK governor didn't make it out of his primary last night, but no one's talking about that because we're too focused on Ocasio-Cortez.

It's almost as if we middle-class people want elected officials to do their jobs and represent their constituents.
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby Hairyducked Idiot » Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:06 pm

NY14 is a very big deal. But establishment Democrats beat grassroots challengers a horsefeathers-ton number of times last night. Going 1-for-a-million doesn't make the 1 a less cool story, but it does invalidate the possibility of a larger trend.
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Postby SouthSideRyan » Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:14 pm

Winning or losing is kind of important and Pelosi is playing her role to tamp down rhetoric about commies taking over then Dem party to convince morons to vote for moron republicans. Get a grip you goofs
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Postby minnesotacubsfan » Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:27 pm

Nancy Pelosi: “We dont have to cater to those poor ass minorities”
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby Banedon » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:11 pm

Annnnd Kennedy announces retirement from SCOTUS and we're horsefeathers.
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Postby UMFan83 » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:19 pm

Banedon wrote:Annnnd Kennedy announces retirement from SCOTUS and we're horsefeathers.


Was Kennedy more of a moderate conservative?
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Postby JudasIscariotTheBird » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:20 pm

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Banedon wrote:Annnnd Kennedy announces retirement from SCOTUS and we're horsefeathers.


Was Kennedy more of a moderate conservative?

He was the tie breaker. Occasionally he would show some decency and join the good guys. The new appointee will not be similar.
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby d_money » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:33 pm

Banedon wrote:Annnnd Kennedy announces retirement from SCOTUS and we're horsefeathers.

Just wait til RBG drops out. She’s holding on for dear life.
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby Brian » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:38 pm

It's too close to 2020 to appoint a new Justice.
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