CubinNY wrote:Sammy Sofa wrote:CubinNY wrote:Both Clinton and Obama were institutional Democrats. The progressive wing of the party died out in the 70s and 80s and was replaced by Democrats aligned with and supported by the same monied interests as the Republicans. Citizens United has exacerbated the problem. I don't know how anything will change in the short or long term. Trump presents a unique challenge, but he will be gone soon. There are much smarter people like him waiting in the wings. The United States has course-corrected back to the system that was in place before FDR. Only some outside event will change it.
Dude, this is some deliberately obtuse wankery. Again, despite how their presidencies ended up, both Clinton and Obama ran as young, progressive candidates. To say they ran and won their first terms as "institutional Democrats" is complete revisionist horse horsefeathers.
Clinton did not run as a progressive candidate.
If you look at it through the lens of today? No, he did not. In the context of '91-'92, he most definitely did. Clinton didn't win on the backs of people thinking, "y'know, that guy really reminds me of Dick Gebhart or Joe Biden." The main rhetorical push that got him elected the first time was just as hopey and changey as anything Obama put out there.