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Postby WrigleyField 22 » Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:37 pm

JudasIscariotTheBird wrote:
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bukie wrote:That's from March 8 and the source is a bit sketchy.

Yea, as much as I'm on board with trying new things to bring down Trump, can we leave the conspiracy theory level stuff to the loonies and just take Trump at his words and actions and destroy him on that?

That and there isn't anything wrong with having a deep brain implant. I had a professor that had Parkinson's, and he was pretty bad off. Got one of those installed and he's a new man. Now, we should be informed if he has Parkinson's, but those things are miracle workers.

That's a really good point actually. Parkinsons is just a physical disease right, doesn't impact ones mental shape?
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Re: The Politics Thread

Postby CubinNY » Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:42 pm

WrigleyField 22 wrote:
JudasIscariotTheBird wrote:
WrigleyField 22 wrote:Yea, as much as I'm on board with trying new things to bring down Trump, can we leave the conspiracy theory level stuff to the loonies and just take Trump at his words and actions and destroy him on that?

That and there isn't anything wrong with having a deep brain implant. I had a professor that had Parkinson's, and he was pretty bad off. Got one of those installed and he's a new man. Now, we should be informed if he has Parkinson's, but those things are miracle workers.

That's a really good point actually. Parkinsons is just a physical disease right, doesn't impact ones mental shape?

Who said there was anything wrong with it? The only thing that would be wrong is that it's kept a secret. And yes, Parkinson's does affect one's mental shape. The side effects of Parkinson's can include, hallucinations, disorientation, and aggression.
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Postby minnesotacubsfan » Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:45 pm

I thought Parkinson's is neurological, Alzheimer's is cognitive. I think people get them mixed up sometimes.
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Re: The Politics Thread

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CubinNY wrote:
WrigleyField 22 wrote:
JudasIscariotTheBird wrote:That and there isn't anything wrong with having a deep brain implant. I had a professor that had Parkinson's, and he was pretty bad off. Got one of those installed and he's a new man. Now, we should be informed if he has Parkinson's, but those things are miracle workers.

That's a really good point actually. Parkinsons is just a physical disease right, doesn't impact ones mental shape?

Who said there was anything wrong with it? The only thing that would be wrong is that it's kept a secret. And yes, Parkinson's does affect one's mental shape. The side effects of Parkinson's can include, hallucinations, disorientation, and aggression.


That certainly hits all the checkmarks for trump.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Postby CubinNY » Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:30 pm

minnesotacubsfan wrote:Parkinson's is neurological, Alzheimer's is cognitive. I think people get them mixed up sometimes.

You have no horsefeathering clue what you’re talking about.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Postby minnesotacubsfan » Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:41 pm

CubinNY wrote:
minnesotacubsfan wrote:Parkinson's is neurological, Alzheimer's is cognitive. I think people get them mixed up sometimes.

You have no horsefeathering clue what you’re talking about.



as far as diseases are concerned, that was what was always explained to me by doctors w/regards to my father. And I do think people get them mixed up.

but yea, I'm not a doctor, so my post is anecdotal

eta: I went ahead and fixed it so you don't have to lose your lunch over a message board post
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Re: The Politics Thread

Postby bukie » Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:55 pm

A short video summarizing the debate:
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Re: The Politics Thread

Postby WrigleyField 22 » Wed Sep 30, 2020 4:07 pm

minnesotacubsfan wrote:
CubinNY wrote:
minnesotacubsfan wrote:Parkinson's is neurological, Alzheimer's is cognitive. I think people get them mixed up sometimes.

You have no horsefeathering clue what you’re talking about.



as far as diseases are concerned, I that was what was always explained to me by doctors w/regards to my father. And I do think people get them mixed up.

but yea, I'm not a doctor, so my post is anecdotal

eta: I went ahead and fixed it so you don't have to lose your lunch over a message board post

Without trying to be too much of a Internet MD here, the Mayo Clinic website is an interesting case study on this sort of thing;

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-con ... c-20376055
Under symptoms it lists all the classic physical debilitations that I have always associated with Parkinson's. Further down, with "Complications" it does list more mental changes like thinking issues and emotional/depressive issues.

So I'm not sure what the technical difference between symptom and complication is, but it seems like the idea of "Parkinsons is a physical impairment and not cognitive", must be commonly used from those in the medical community to explain it to us non-medical folks.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Postby gflore34 » Wed Sep 30, 2020 5:18 pm

One of Trump' go to sayings - "We built the greatest economy in US history" - to some extent Wallace took him task citing statistics that it wasn't so great. Should the remaining debates occur there needs to more of this, ask him to explain what was done, show statistics backing his claims. Ask him his plans to achieve this super awesome economy in wake of COVID. By the way, think Mr. and Mrs. MAGA Billy know the economy Trump repeatedly speaks of applies only to the rich?

I do not see why the remaining Presidential debates should happen, Trump is unprepared, functionally illiterate thereby, making him completely ignorant of any relevant policy, etc. There's no point, one cannot hold a reasonable discussion about anything with a complete and utter fool.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Postby sneakypower » Wed Sep 30, 2020 5:23 pm

it's an easy point nobody seems to make, 'greatest economy in history' summarily tanked by one unforeseen event doesn't seem so great an economy
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Re: The Politics Thread

Postby gflore34 » Wed Sep 30, 2020 5:29 pm

sneakypower wrote:it's an easy point nobody seems to make, 'greatest economy in history' summarily tanked by one unforeseen event doesn't seem so great an economy


Not that it made a point with any of Trump' fellow klansmen but, Biden suggested an economy is a function of people. One must be present for the other to be a reality, doesn't work both ways. Which makes Trump' insistence on ignoring COVID for sake of his great economy all the more senseless, in addition to your point,
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Postby Sammy Sofa » Wed Sep 30, 2020 6:29 pm

The endless catch-22 of, "I love Trump because he's unfiltered and says what he means and isn't PC!" and "I love Trump, so now I'm going to cover for his ass and explain what he REALLY meant!"
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Postby WrigleyField 22 » Wed Sep 30, 2020 6:41 pm

sneakypower wrote:it's an easy point nobody seems to make, 'greatest economy in history' summarily tanked by one unforeseen event doesn't seem so great an economy

Yea, I'm not sure how to best convey it to the average voter, but there was definitely a pretty persistent, "we are in a bubble and a recession is coming" was a fairly widespread thought pre-covid.

From Trumps viewpoint he will basically just argue to stock market and pre-covid unemployment figures, and those are hard to argue against to the average voter if the stocks have largely rebounded and you blame unemployment on shutdowns. Biden tried to get to it last night, but not sure he was able to totally speak over Trump and connect the idea that the federal government could have been active in keeping the economy better afloat with direct aid to small businesses to beat the virus and provide safety measures, and that a inflated stock market, even if it helps some people's 401ks is kind of useless when you need money now.
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Postby minnesotacubsfan » Wed Sep 30, 2020 6:43 pm

WrigleyField 22 wrote:
sneakypower wrote:it's an easy point nobody seems to make, 'greatest economy in history' summarily tanked by one unforeseen event doesn't seem so great an economy

Yea, I'm not sure how to best convey it to the average voter, but there was definitely a pretty persistent, "we are in a bubble and a recession is coming" was a fairly widespread thought pre-covid.

From Trumps viewpoint he will basically just argue to stock market and pre-covid unemployment figures, and those are hard to argue against to the average voter if the stocks have largely rebounded and you blame unemployment on shutdowns. Biden tried to get to it last night, but not sure he was able to totally speak over Trump and connect the idea that the federal government could have been active in keeping the economy better afloat with direct aid to small businesses to beat the virus and provide safety measures, and that a inflated stock market, even if it helps some people's 401ks is kind of useless when you need money now.


the best way to dimwitted trumpians? The economy is worse, and the buck stops at the top.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Postby gflore34 » Wed Sep 30, 2020 6:50 pm

Bertz wrote:https://twitter.com/ditzkoff/status/1311366198500691970?s=19


Once again Trump' lack of depth and extreme ignorance showing, all he knows is someone likes him, that's enough. He probably never heard of this group two weeks ago.
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Postby CubinNY » Wed Sep 30, 2020 7:05 pm

gflore34 wrote:
Bertz wrote:https://twitter.com/ditzkoff/status/1311366198500691970?s=19


Once again Trump' lack of depth and extreme ignorance showing, all he knows is someone likes him, that's enough. He probably never heard of this group two weeks ago.

Trump knows who they are and what they stand for.
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Postby javy knows my name » Wed Sep 30, 2020 7:19 pm

gflore34 wrote:
Bertz wrote:https://twitter.com/ditzkoff/status/1311366198500691970?s=19


Once again Trump' lack of depth and extreme ignorance showing, all he knows is someone likes him, that's enough. He probably never heard of this group two weeks ago.


Way too much credit given to him. He has a political interest in having these protests be as violent as possible so he can blame the left, and they are his tools to do so.
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Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Wed Sep 30, 2020 7:23 pm

Given the choice between 'Trump awkwardly fails to denounce his more toxic supporters because he thinks that will maximize violence as a tool of political gain' and 'Trump reflexively downplays any accusations against group of people who like him', I think the latter is more likely.
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Postby JudasIscariotTheBird » Wed Sep 30, 2020 7:30 pm

Transmogrified Tiger wrote:Given the choice between 'Trump awkwardly fails to denounce his more toxic supporters because he thinks that will maximize violence as a tool of political gain' and 'Trump reflexively downplays any accusations against group of people who like him', I think the latter is more likely.

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Postby javy knows my name » Wed Sep 30, 2020 7:56 pm

Transmogrified Tiger wrote:Given the choice between 'Trump awkwardly fails to denounce his more toxic supporters because he thinks that will maximize violence as a tool of political gain' and 'Trump reflexively downplays any accusations against group of people who like him', I think the latter is more likely.


He didn't awkwardly fail to denounce anything, he fell just short of inciting racial violence
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Postby sneakypower » Wed Sep 30, 2020 8:31 pm

also basically asked his supporters to please do voter intimidation
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