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Postby Andy » Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:22 am

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We were roommates at Windermere, but the MFer Windermere incident happened the year after I graduated - Da Bum transferred to Ball State so had to take an extra year.
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Postby Hairyducked Idiot » Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:22 am

I think the last generation of republicans were stringing the right along on RvW. But a lot of the people taking office now have grown up on the propaganda and are true believers
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Re: The Politics Thread

Postby Hairyducked Idiot » Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:27 am

NOLA wrote:How can anyone argue that massive turnout from the Dems’ most reliable voting bloc is nothing? It’s extremely encouraging.


I find it very encouraging, but at this point we don’t know for 100% sure that it’s going to result in actually much higher turnout or just the mostly the same turnout but more of it came earlier
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Re: The Politics Thread

Postby Soul » Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:49 am

Hairyducked Idiot wrote:
NOLA wrote:How can anyone argue that massive turnout from the Dems’ most reliable voting bloc is nothing? It’s extremely encouraging.


I find it very encouraging, but at this point we don’t know for 100% sure that it’s going to result in actually much higher turnout or just the mostly the same turnout but more of it came earlier

In this crazy year having the votes in the bank is really worth something. First of all, it limits the effects of an October surprise type scenario. Anyone who was open to being swayed by something like that can only be affected if they haven’t voted.

Even more than that though, we could be looking at 100,000 cases/day by Nov 3, and I’ve got to believe some people who would have gone to the polls will stay home.

So whoever has the advantage in the early vote has to feel pretty good about it.
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Postby Ding Dong Johnson » Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:48 am

Huge if true.

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Postby MWV » Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:15 am

Ding Dong Johnson wrote:Huge if true.


I may use this as a comical example of anecdotal evidence and selection bias in my scientific ethics class.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Postby Hairyducked Idiot » Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:40 am

With 9 days to go in 2016, Clinton's polling lead had shrunk from 7 to 4 over the course of two weeks. It would get to as small as 1 before settling at 3 on the final day. She would ultimately win the popular vote by 2 points, one point off the final polls.

With 9 days to go in 2020, Biden's lead is at 8 points. It did touch 10 a couple weeks ago at the height of Trump's virus scare, but 8 is on the good side of where it's been most of the election. If it stays there the rest of the way, we are in "If Trump wins then it's probably fraudulent" territory.
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Postby UK » Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:58 am

For those who watch Last Week Tonight, coal tycoon and giant ass Bob Murray died yesterday. Hopefully he's a filing a lawsuit due to poor living conditions as we speak.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/coa ... g-73828679
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Postby Tim » Mon Oct 26, 2020 12:31 pm

Hairyducked Idiot wrote:With 9 days to go in 2016, Clinton's polling lead had shrunk from 7 to 4 over the course of two weeks. It would get to as small as 1 before settling at 3 on the final day. She would ultimately win the popular vote by 2 points, one point off the final polls.

With 9 days to go in 2020, Biden's lead is at 8 points. It did touch 10 a couple weeks ago at the height of Trump's virus scare, but 8 is on the good side of where it's been most of the election. If it stays there the rest of the way, we are in "If Trump wins then it's probably fraudulent" territory.

Where are you seeing 8 points? I see 9 on both 538 and NYT.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Postby CubinNY » Mon Oct 26, 2020 12:42 pm

Trump is the biggest [expletive] I've ever seen. He ran away from the tough questions.

Why don't you ask Joe Biden tough questions? Mad King Whatabout
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Postby bukie » Mon Oct 26, 2020 1:38 pm

UK wrote:For those who watch Last Week Tonight, coal tycoon and giant ass Bob Murray died yesterday. Hopefully he's a filing a lawsuit due to poor living conditions as we speak.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/coa ... g-73828679


So that he could die how he lived, Bob Murray will be cremated, and his ashes will be blown into the lungs of low income families.
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Postby Bertz » Mon Oct 26, 2020 1:39 pm

Hairyducked Idiot wrote:With 9 days to go in 2016, Clinton's polling lead had shrunk from 7 to 4 over the course of two weeks. It would get to as small as 1 before settling at 3 on the final day. She would ultimately win the popular vote by 2 points, one point off the final polls.

With 9 days to go in 2020, Biden's lead is at 8 points. It did touch 10 a couple weeks ago at the height of Trump's virus scare, but 8 is on the good side of where it's been most of the election. If it stays there the rest of the way, we are in "If Trump wins then it's probably fraudulent" territory.


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Re: The Politics Thread

Postby Derwood » Mon Oct 26, 2020 1:43 pm

CubinNY wrote:Trump is the biggest [expletive] I've ever seen. He ran away from the tough questions.

Why don't you ask Joe Biden tough questions? Mad King Whatabout


It's not surprise he walked out. He HATES being questioned by women. HATES IT
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Re: The Politics Thread

Postby gflore34 » Mon Oct 26, 2020 1:50 pm

CubinNY wrote:Trump is the biggest [expletive] I've ever seen. He ran away from the tough questions.

Why don't you ask Joe Biden tough questions? Mad King Whatabout



I knew it was going to be an exercise in futility but, I watched it, nonetheless, other then a few company lines. Nearly every subject ended up being how tough everyone is on him, how unfair the media, etc. is to him, always him, woe is me, the whole world is against me nonsense. No plan, no concrete thought, a void, got more out of Pence. Although, I do not know how the Christian' Christian Pence can continue to cover for Trump and not think his soul is going to be eternally damned.

Trump' line about COVID was relevant "learning to live with it" translation - if reelected nothing will be done, you're going to have to suck it up and avoid getting infected, losing your job, getting evicted, etc.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Postby BigbadB » Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:01 pm

I am really excited about the thought of Texas going blue for this election. Didn't really think that was a possibility a month ago.
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Postby Soul » Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:17 pm

gflore34 wrote:
CubinNY wrote:Trump is the biggest [expletive] I've ever seen. He ran away from the tough questions.

Why don't you ask Joe Biden tough questions? Mad King Whatabout



I knew it was going to be an exercise in futility but, I watched it, nonetheless, other then a few company lines. Nearly every subject ended up being how tough everyone is on him, how unfair the media, etc. is to him, always him, woe is me, the whole world is against me nonsense. No plan, no concrete thought, a void, got more out of Pence. Although, I do not know how the Christian' Christian Pence can continue to cover for Trump and not think his soul is going to be eternally damned.


Did you see McEnany's snarky handing of the Trump "healthcare plan" to Stahl after he stormed out? That was something else. Then Pence's typical maddening gloss over of everything.
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Postby Ding Dong Johnson » Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:22 pm

Here's a thread that helps sum up what I thought I was watching.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Postby gflore34 » Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:42 pm

Soul wrote:
gflore34 wrote:
CubinNY wrote:Trump is the biggest [expletive] I've ever seen. He ran away from the tough questions.

Why don't you ask Joe Biden tough questions? Mad King Whatabout



I knew it was going to be an exercise in futility but, I watched it, nonetheless, other then a few company lines. Nearly every subject ended up being how tough everyone is on him, how unfair the media, etc. is to him, always him, woe is me, the whole world is against me nonsense. No plan, no concrete thought, a void, got more out of Pence. Although, I do not know how the Christian' Christian Pence can continue to cover for Trump and not think his soul is going to be eternally damned.


Did you see McEnany's snarky handing of the Trump "healthcare plan" to Stahl after he stormed out? That was something else. Then Pence's typical maddening gloss over of everything.


I did, guess it was not filled with empty pages but, might as well been, given it was a collection of executive orders offering nothing really concrete. I do wonder if several of the pages were duplicates, Trump and Company probably, never considered that Stahl might actually look through the contents.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Postby Hairyducked Idiot » Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:49 pm

Tim wrote:
Hairyducked Idiot wrote:With 9 days to go in 2016, Clinton's polling lead had shrunk from 7 to 4 over the course of two weeks. It would get to as small as 1 before settling at 3 on the final day. She would ultimately win the popular vote by 2 points, one point off the final polls.

With 9 days to go in 2020, Biden's lead is at 8 points. It did touch 10 a couple weeks ago at the height of Trump's virus scare, but 8 is on the good side of where it's been most of the election. If it stays there the rest of the way, we are in "If Trump wins then it's probably fraudulent" territory.

Where are you seeing 8 points? I see 9 on both 538 and NYT.


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Postby gflore34 » Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:15 pm

During interviews with Trump someone should count the number of times he says beautiful, greatest, best, no one ever thought of before - this is in particular irritates me a bit. Constantly trying to come off as some innovate thinker and, or smart, if Trump thought of something there's an excellent someone thought of it first, listening to him you'd think he invented fire.
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Postby Soul » Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:10 pm

gflore34 wrote:During interviews with Trump someone should count the number of times he says beautiful, greatest, best, no one ever thought of before - this is in particular irritates me a bit. Constantly trying to come off as some innovate thinker and, or smart, if Trump thought of something there's an excellent someone thought of it first, listening to him you'd think he invented fire.


It would make a good drinking game. You'd be under the table in record time with the "nobody's ever seen anything like it" type Trumpisms.
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Postby David » Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:18 pm

gflore34 wrote:During interviews with Trump someone should count the number of times he says beautiful, greatest, best, no one ever thought of before - this is in particular irritates me a bit. Constantly trying to come off as some innovate thinker and, or smart, if Trump thought of something there's an excellent someone thought of it first, listening to him you'd think he invented fire.


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