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In some regards, for Rudy, it must be quit liberating and well, fun to be given this opportunity to act like a complete horsefeathering fool on the national stage.



Sure..."act"...
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lol thats great, but it reads like an 'ok boomer' moment. Anyone but Obama and it would be

Interestingly, the only reason I saw this particular tweet is because it was re-tweeted by a....boomer never-Trump'er I have in a tweet app list.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Postby gflore34 » Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:45 pm

Sammy Sofa wrote:
gflore34 wrote:
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In some regards, for Rudy, it must be quit liberating and well, fun to be given this opportunity to act like a complete horsefeathering fool on the national stage.



Sure..."act"...


Do not know much about his background but, was he always this horsefeathering nutty? He's an attorney, guessing on some level he knows all these cases of election fraud are BS or does the wack job really believe there was coordinated election fraud across several states?
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Perhaps I'm naive, but how in the hell do you find such a bevy of awful people? Do the republicans have a minion training academy?
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minnesotacubsfan wrote:
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Perhaps I'm naive, but how in the hell do you find such a bevy of awful people? Do the republicans have a minion training academy?

Likely started with the Koch Brothers Network as a feeder system, and "improved" (meaning: made more horsefeathering awful) upon that
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minnesotacubsfan wrote:
CyHawk_Cub wrote:

Perhaps I'm naive, but how in the hell do you find such a bevy of awful people? Do the republicans have a minion training academy?


Start with everybody who participated with college republicans at any point in the last 30 years and you should be good.
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Postby NOLA » Tue Nov 17, 2020 12:13 am

From Dan Pfeiffer’s message box, which is consistently a great read:

There are two ways to look at this past election and spin it forward. One version is that Trump is a uniquely talented populist demagogue with a decades old image as a fabulously successful businessman. Under that scenario, no other Republican is capable of generating the same sky high turnout among white working class voters that lifted both his campaigns. But there is another more concerning version with which Democrats must wrestle. What if Trump is a uniquely weak candidate? In 2016 and 2020, he underperformed other Republicans on the ballot. If another Republican can hold the base, continue to grow support with Latino and Black voters, and bring back some of the moderate Republicans that voted for Joe Biden and a bunch of Republicans down ballot, we could be in real trouble.


I tend to subscribe to the former, that Trump is a unique celebrity injected in our politics. Do we really think Tom Cotton would generate as much enthusiasm? Still, I worry that the gains made with the Hispanic voters are a trend.
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Postby Bote McBoteface » Tue Nov 17, 2020 12:37 am

I’m more worried that their next moron celebrity man crush turned awful president is kid rock.
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Postby WrigleyField 22 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 12:41 am

Bote McBoteface wrote:I’m more worried that their next moron celebrity man crush turned awful president is kid rock.

I'm thinking more Joe Rogan.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Postby Sammy Sofa » Tue Nov 17, 2020 12:43 am

WrigleyField 22 wrote:
Bote McBoteface wrote:I’m more worried that their next moron celebrity man crush turned awful president is kid rock.

I'm thinking more Joe Rogan.


Too successful.
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Postby WrigleyField 22 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 12:59 am

Sammy Sofa wrote:
WrigleyField 22 wrote:
Bote McBoteface wrote:I’m more worried that their next moron celebrity man crush turned awful president is kid rock.

I'm thinking more Joe Rogan.


Too successful.

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Postby Cubfanintheknow » Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:11 am

NOLA wrote:From Dan Pfeiffer’s message box, which is consistently a great read:

There are two ways to look at this past election and spin it forward. One version is that Trump is a uniquely talented populist demagogue with a decades old image as a fabulously successful businessman. Under that scenario, no other Republican is capable of generating the same sky high turnout among white working class voters that lifted both his campaigns. But there is another more concerning version with which Democrats must wrestle. What if Trump is a uniquely weak candidate? In 2016 and 2020, he underperformed other Republicans on the ballot. If another Republican can hold the base, continue to grow support with Latino and Black voters, and bring back some of the moderate Republicans that voted for Joe Biden and a bunch of Republicans down ballot, we could be in real trouble.


I tend to subscribe to the former, that Trump is a unique celebrity injected in our politics. Do we really think Tom Cotton would generate as much enthusiasm? Still, I worry that the gains made with the Hispanic voters are a trend.


Not if Julian Castro becomes Kamala's running mate.
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Postby David » Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:14 am

Cubfanintheknow wrote:
NOLA wrote:From Dan Pfeiffer’s message box, which is consistently a great read:

There are two ways to look at this past election and spin it forward. One version is that Trump is a uniquely talented populist demagogue with a decades old image as a fabulously successful businessman. Under that scenario, no other Republican is capable of generating the same sky high turnout among white working class voters that lifted both his campaigns. But there is another more concerning version with which Democrats must wrestle. What if Trump is a uniquely weak candidate? In 2016 and 2020, he underperformed other Republicans on the ballot. If another Republican can hold the base, continue to grow support with Latino and Black voters, and bring back some of the moderate Republicans that voted for Joe Biden and a bunch of Republicans down ballot, we could be in real trouble.


I tend to subscribe to the former, that Trump is a unique celebrity injected in our politics. Do we really think Tom Cotton would generate as much enthusiasm? Still, I worry that the gains made with the Hispanic voters are a trend.


Not if Julian Castro becomes Kamala's running mate.


As far as Florida and Miami-Dade go, Julian Castro isn't getting them anywhere with Cubans.

But nobody would make a difference there.
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Postby WrigleyField 22 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:23 am

David wrote:
Cubfanintheknow wrote:
NOLA wrote:From Dan Pfeiffer’s message box, which is consistently a great read:



I tend to subscribe to the former, that Trump is a unique celebrity injected in our politics. Do we really think Tom Cotton would generate as much enthusiasm? Still, I worry that the gains made with the Hispanic voters are a trend.


Not if Julian Castro becomes Kamala's running mate.


As far as Florida and Miami-Dade go, Julian Castro isn't getting them anywhere with Cubans.

But nobody would make a difference there.

Castro should test his Latino outreach ability by actually running for a damn statewide TX seat.
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Postby CubinNY » Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:26 am

NOLA wrote:From Dan Pfeiffer’s message box, which is consistently a great read:

There are two ways to look at this past election and spin it forward. One version is that Trump is a uniquely talented populist demagogue with a decades old image as a fabulously successful businessman. Under that scenario, no other Republican is capable of generating the same sky high turnout among white working class voters that lifted both his campaigns. But there is another more concerning version with which Democrats must wrestle. What if Trump is a uniquely weak candidate? In 2016 and 2020, he underperformed other Republicans on the ballot. If another Republican can hold the base, continue to grow support with Latino and Black voters, and bring back some of the moderate Republicans that voted for Joe Biden and a bunch of Republicans down ballot, we could be in real trouble.


I tend to subscribe to the former, that Trump is a unique celebrity injected in our politics. Do we really think Tom Cotton would generate as much enthusiasm? Still, I worry that the gains made with the Hispanic voters are a trend.


We have a lot to reckon with as a nation, however, Republicans have lost the popular vote in 5 of the last 6 presidential elections. It's our representational system that makes things look worse and is made worse by gerrymandering. The Senate is lead by a group of people who represent less people than the minority group. There is something fundamentally wrong with that. The divide between thriving cities and dying rural communities is a problem that the Democrats need to figure out how to solve. How do you get a group of people who are most hurt by their vote to change their vote?
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