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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby DiceMan4221 » Thu Mar 16, 2017 11:32 pm

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squally1313 wrote:I feel like I'm missing something obvious here because I never really see this being discussed, so someone help me out please:

In terms of the budget, the standard Republican defense on all these cuts is that they are getting rid of wasteful spending/inefficiencies/etc. That's fine, easy talking point, whatever. Last I checked, we spend more on the military than like the next 10 countries combined, and apparently it's a key priority to increase that spending this year.

Has anyone called into question why every other country in the world spends fractions of what we're spending on the military and are obviously satisfied with the output? Is the military so sacrosanct that we can't theorize that, if we're spending multiple more than anyone else and it apparently isn't good enough, maybe we're doing something wrong in terms of inefficiencies there? Or is there something unique about the US that requires such large expenditures?

We have the words 1 (Air Force), 2 (Navy), and 3rd (Army) largest air-forces according to a colonel I know.

That colonel is confusing as hell.
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby CubinNY » Thu Mar 16, 2017 11:39 pm

Banedon wrote:https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/842409899359375361




Is this true? it's too delicious.
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby CubinNY » Thu Mar 16, 2017 11:40 pm

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CubinNY wrote:
squally1313 wrote:I feel like I'm missing something obvious here because I never really see this being discussed, so someone help me out please:

In terms of the budget, the standard Republican defense on all these cuts is that they are getting rid of wasteful spending/inefficiencies/etc. That's fine, easy talking point, whatever. Last I checked, we spend more on the military than like the next 10 countries combined, and apparently it's a key priority to increase that spending this year.

Has anyone called into question why every other country in the world spends fractions of what we're spending on the military and are obviously satisfied with the output? Is the military so sacrosanct that we can't theorize that, if we're spending multiple more than anyone else and it apparently isn't good enough, maybe we're doing something wrong in terms of inefficiencies there? Or is there something unique about the US that requires such large expenditures?

We have the worlds 1 (Air Force), 2 (Navy), and 3rd (Army) largest air-forces according to a colonel I know.

That colonel is confusing as hell.
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby CubinNY » Thu Mar 16, 2017 11:41 pm

CubinNY wrote:
squally1313 wrote:I feel like I'm missing something obvious here because I never really see this being discussed, so someone help me out please:

In terms of the budget, the standard Republican defense on all these cuts is that they are getting rid of wasteful spending/inefficiencies/etc. That's fine, easy talking point, whatever. Last I checked, we spend more on the military than like the next 10 countries combined, and apparently it's a key priority to increase that spending this year.

Has anyone called into question why every other country in the world spends fractions of what we're spending on the military and are obviously satisfied with the output? Is the military so sacrosanct that we can't theorize that, if we're spending multiple more than anyone else and it apparently isn't good enough, maybe we're doing something wrong in terms of inefficiencies there? Or is there something unique about the US that requires such large expenditures?

We have the worlds 1 (Air Force), 2 (Navy), and 3rd (Army) largest air-forces according to a colonel I know.
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby Omar » Fri Mar 17, 2017 12:01 am

Private military contractors lobby has congress on a leech, just like the health insurance companies.
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby jersey cubs fan » Fri Mar 17, 2017 12:43 am

Omar wrote:Private military contractors lobby has congress on a leech, just like the health insurance companies.

THose damn boltons.
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby Sammy Sofa » Fri Mar 17, 2017 1:11 am

The rare typo that works both ways.
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Re: Politics & Current Events

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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby NewUserName » Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:58 am

CubInOK wrote:https://twitter.com/fahrenthold/status/842567198740824065
nothing threatens our freedom quite like North Korea!! I think the administration has clearly shown that bullying will be the new diplomacy
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby Banedon » Fri Mar 17, 2017 12:07 pm

CubinNY wrote:
Banedon wrote:https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/842409899359375361




Is this true? it's too delicious.


This uses the same tweets as evidence, but yes...it appears to be true.

http://www.theroot.com/trump-recites-an ... 1793352629
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby WrigleyField 22 » Fri Mar 17, 2017 12:39 pm

Banedon wrote:
CubinNY wrote:
Banedon wrote:https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/842409899359375361




Is this true? it's too delicious.


This uses the same tweets as evidence, but yes...it appears to be true.

http://www.theroot.com/trump-recites-an ... 1793352629

Love the first comment there;

"Nope. Grew up Irish Catholic. There’s no way that is an Irish anything. We don’t forget the things that make us sad. We stew over that horsefeathers until our birthday and end up in a fistfight in the yard with Dad."
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby wade » Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:04 pm

Trump's writers google "famous Irish proverb" and use one they found on a pinterest page. Ted Sorensen rolls over.
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby NOLA » Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:11 pm

NewUserName wrote:
CubInOK wrote:https://twitter.com/fahrenthold/status/842567198740824065
nothing threatens our freedom quite like North Korea!! I think the administration has clearly shown that bullying will be the new diplomacy

It actually may be time to take a different approach to North Korea than we have in the past. They no longer can be considered a joke that is best ignored when they rattle the cage. I just don't trust these clowns in the White House to get it right.
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Postby Sammy Sofa » Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:15 pm

NOLA wrote:
NewUserName wrote:
CubInOK wrote:https://twitter.com/fahrenthold/status/842567198740824065
nothing threatens our freedom quite like North Korea!! I think the administration has clearly shown that bullying will be the new diplomacy

It actually may be time to take a different approach to North Korea than we have in the past. They no longer can be considered a joke that is best ignored when they rattle the cage. I just don't trust these clowns in the White House to get it right.


Yeah, dealing with NK was inevitably going to come to a head at some point regardless of who was in the Oval Office; you could just hope it wouldn't be a collection of impulsive incompetents like these jamokes. Any answer to dealing with NK has to come from or go through China, period.
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby NOLA » Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:15 pm

wade wrote:Trump's writers google "famous Irish proverb" and use one they found on a pinterest page. Ted Sorensen rolls over.

Ah, the Trump administration...the bumbling of GW Bush, the corruption of Nixon and ideology of Hitler. Good times.
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby jersey cubs fan » Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:18 pm

NOLA wrote:
NewUserName wrote:
CubInOK wrote:https://twitter.com/fahrenthold/status/842567198740824065
nothing threatens our freedom quite like North Korea!! I think the administration has clearly shown that bullying will be the new diplomacy

It actually may be time to take a different approach to North Korea than we have in the past. They no longer can be considered a joke that is best ignored when they rattle the cage. I just don't trust these clowns in the White House to get it right.

Wasn't Bush's "axis of evil" talk considered a new approach to a North Korea that could no longer be ignored when they rattled the cage?
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Postby NOLA » Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:19 pm

Sammy Sofa wrote:
NOLA wrote:
NewUserName wrote:nothing threatens our freedom quite like North Korea!! I think the administration has clearly shown that bullying will be the new diplomacy

It actually may be time to take a different approach to North Korea than we have in the past. They no longer can be considered a joke that is best ignored when they rattle the cage. I just don't trust these clowns in the White House to get it right.


Yeah, dealing with NK was inevitably going to come to a head at some point regardless of who was in the Oval Office; you could just hope it wouldn't be a collection of impulsive incompetents like these jamokes. Any answer to dealing with NK has to come from or go through China, period.

I probably am giving Trump too much credit, but this could be the reason that he did an about face on his pre-inauguration posturing on China.
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby NOLA » Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:20 pm

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NOLA wrote:
NewUserName wrote:nothing threatens our freedom quite like North Korea!! I think the administration has clearly shown that bullying will be the new diplomacy

It actually may be time to take a different approach to North Korea than we have in the past. They no longer can be considered a joke that is best ignored when they rattle the cage. I just don't trust these clowns in the White House to get it right.

Wasn't Bush's "axis of evil" talk considered a new approach to a North Korea that could no longer be ignored when they rattled the cage?

True, but what exactly did he do any differently than Clinton? The difference now is that actually threaten our allies.
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby Sammy Sofa » Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:23 pm

NOLA wrote:
Sammy Sofa wrote:
NOLA wrote:It actually may be time to take a different approach to North Korea than we have in the past. They no longer can be considered a joke that is best ignored when they rattle the cage. I just don't trust these clowns in the White House to get it right.


Yeah, dealing with NK was inevitably going to come to a head at some point regardless of who was in the Oval Office; you could just hope it wouldn't be a collection of impulsive incompetents like these jamokes. Any answer to dealing with NK has to come from or go through China, period.

I probably am giving Trump too much credit, but this could be the reason that he did an about face on his pre-inauguration posturing on China.


Possibly. I picture most of what Trump says resulting in something like this:

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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby Sammy Sofa » Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:26 pm

NOLA wrote:
jersey cubs fan wrote:
NOLA wrote:It actually may be time to take a different approach to North Korea than we have in the past. They no longer can be considered a joke that is best ignored when they rattle the cage. I just don't trust these clowns in the White House to get it right.

Wasn't Bush's "axis of evil" talk considered a new approach to a North Korea that could no longer be ignored when they rattled the cage?

True, but what exactly did he do any differently than Clinton? The difference now is that actually threaten our allies.


Plus Kim Jong-il, nutty as he was, was distinctly less bonkers than and more predictable/workable than his son has turned out to be. Kim Jong-il ultimately seemed to be mostly working the system to exploit it to enhance his own corruption; Jong-un seems to really believe the hype of his rhetoric.
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby Stannis » Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:17 pm

Can Soros, Buffet, Cuban, and Gates just pool all their resources and buy a state like the size of Maine where we can all live in a centralized urban area with a sweet ass train system, farmland, awesome doctors, thriving planned economy where conservatives aren't allowed?
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby Sammy Sofa » Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:19 pm

Mark Cuban is still the scumbag-type of rich guy, sulley. Don't be fooled.
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby jersey cubs fan » Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:24 pm

Stannis wrote:Can Soros, Buffet, Cuban, and Gates just pool all their resources and buy a state like the size of Maine where we can all live in a centralized urban area with a sweet ass train system, farmland, awesome doctors, thriving planned economy where conservatives aren't allowed?

need some musk for part of that
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Postby DiceMan4221 » Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:43 pm

jersey cubs fan wrote:
Stannis wrote:Can Soros, Buffet, Cuban, and Gates just pool all their resources and buy a state like the size of Maine where we can all live in a centralized urban area with a sweet ass train system, farmland, awesome doctors, thriving planned economy where conservatives aren't allowed?

need some musk for part of that

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