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Postby TruffleShuffle » Sat Jul 07, 2018 12:03 am



this dude’s political career should be over.
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Postby Cubfanintheknow » Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:39 am

TruffleShuffle wrote:

this dude’s political career should be over.


In order for his career to be over, he needs to feel ashamed of his behavior and actions.

But we’re talking about a republican here, so don’t hold your breath.
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby Derwood » Sat Jul 07, 2018 2:54 am

Get a load of this a-hole

http://ricktylerforcongress.com/

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Postby TruffleShuffle » Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:47 pm



huh who could have predicted that the singapore summit would turn out to be a colossal failure, besides everybody who knew anything about US-DPRK relations?
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby CubinNY » Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:09 pm

Whatever happens after Trump we as a country must do something to curb the power of the Presidency. That is of course if America still resembles the same country it was before this disaster.

I'm watching the Viet Nam War documentary on Netflix and I'm so angry at what happened.
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby abuck1220 » Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:18 pm

can’t believe a game show host/failed mail order steak mogul couldn’t convince a psychotic murderous dictator to change his ways simply by talking to him once
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby CyHawk_Cub » Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:46 pm

Despicable. Bottomless awfulness from the GOP.

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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby Derwood » Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:21 pm



wut
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Postby Sammy Sofa » Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:54 pm

7 years feels like a random number he pulled out of his ass, like, "horsefeathers, I'll probably be dead by then, right?"
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Postby Derwood » Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:03 pm

He also clearly doesn’t understand what anonymous sources are
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Postby Sammy Sofa » Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:41 pm

I like that he tweets things like that like he's seemingly forgotten that he's the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. Like, if these were actually things, HE'S THE MOST POWERFUL PERSON IN THE WORLD, yet he's acting like he would have no possible way to get the truth out there....as he uses a forum that millions of people follow him on.

Of course, it's obviously because he's completely full of horsefeathers and he's just trying to rile up his supporters, but still....pretty horsefeathering funny.

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Postby Derwood » Sun Jul 08, 2018 1:58 am



I've run into quite a few people who believe just this
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Postby Sammy Sofa » Sun Jul 08, 2018 2:09 am

Well, sure; that's one of the rare cases of Trump actually dialing it back and just sticking to a slight variation of the script the Republicans have been hawking for 50 years now.
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby Cubfanintheknow » Sun Jul 08, 2018 2:56 am

Derwood wrote:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1015033658548207616

I've run into quite a few people who believe just this


Hey, he used "pour" correctly this time. Things are looking up!
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby Derwood » Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:22 pm

Sammy Sofa wrote:Well, sure; that's one of the rare cases of Trump actually dialing it back and just sticking to a slight variation of the script the Republicans have been hawking for 50 years now.


Sure, but it's this sort of nonsense that makes it impossible to have rational discussions with conservative voters. When the first thing out of their mouths are "YOU LIBTARDS WANT OPEN BOARDERS (SIC) AND LOVE CRIME!" then what are you supposed to do?
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Postby Sammy Sofa » Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:39 pm

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Sammy Sofa wrote:Well, sure; that's one of the rare cases of Trump actually dialing it back and just sticking to a slight variation of the script the Republicans have been hawking for 50 years now.


Sure, but it's this sort of nonsense that makes it impossible to have rational discussions with conservative voters. When the first thing out of their mouths are "YOU LIBTARDS WANT OPEN BOARDERS (SIC) AND LOVE CRIME!" then what are you supposed to do?


Nothing. That's been obvious (to everyone except the DNC), again, for decades now.

The added level of irony is that the "immigration problem" is a self-made problem. America had scores of migrant workers who would cross back and forth over the border (with their family staying behind in Central America) for work based on the season for years and years, and you only saw a huge shift in tons of those workers staying (and thus bringing their families with them) once "immigration reform" was propped up as a problem that had to be dealt with ad the rhetoric that rolled out with it. The workers realized that it was going to likely become harder to be able to cross back and forth over the border, so they chose to stay where the work is and bring their families with them. Republican-style immigration paranoia created the situation that resulted in more people crossing and/or staying illegally.
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby CyHawk_Cub » Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:40 pm

Derwood wrote:
Sammy Sofa wrote:Well, sure; that's one of the rare cases of Trump actually dialing it back and just sticking to a slight variation of the script the Republicans have been hawking for 50 years now.


Sure, but it's this sort of nonsense that makes it impossible to have rational discussions with conservative voters. When the first thing out of their mouths are "YOU LIBTARDS WANT OPEN BOARDERS (SIC) AND LOVE CRIME!" then what are you supposed to do?


Don't engage bad faith commentators? TBC, I simply mean, provide/formulate counter-narratives for those who are like-minded so they can have intellectual firepower to understand why they favor the things you do (that explains 75% of the stuff I post in this thread - if even a single person can use a POV from a tweet/article to further strengthen their argument, be it internal or with someone else, then it was more than worth my time).

However, actually engaging with those who clearly will not have a good faith debate is an utter waste of time, IMO. If you want to do it for sport, cool. I just mean no hearts & minds will be changed. It's like the point I and several others here have been making for the better part of 18 months: the idea that we need to "win over" Trumpkins is stupid, and it's not gonna happen.
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Postby Derwood » Sun Jul 08, 2018 1:37 pm

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Sammy Sofa wrote:Well, sure; that's one of the rare cases of Trump actually dialing it back and just sticking to a slight variation of the script the Republicans have been hawking for 50 years now.


Sure, but it's this sort of nonsense that makes it impossible to have rational discussions with conservative voters. When the first thing out of their mouths are "YOU LIBTARDS WANT OPEN BOARDERS (SIC) AND LOVE CRIME!" then what are you supposed to do?


Don't engage bad faith commentators? TBC, I simply mean, provide/formulate counter-narratives for those who are like-minded so they can have intellectual firepower to understand why they favor the things you do (that explains 75% of the stuff I post in this thread - if even a single person can use a POV from a tweet/article to further strengthen their argument, be it internal or with someone else, then it was more than worth my time).

However, actually engaging with those who clearly will not have a good faith debate is an utter waste of time, IMO. If you want to do it for sport, cool. I just mean no hearts & minds will be changed. It's like the point I and several others here have been making for the better part of 18 months: the idea that we need to "win over" Trumpkins is stupid, and it's not gonna happen.


I think the problem is that there is no such thing as good debate anymore. Everyone is a bad faith commentator. And when the President posts 10 tweets a day that are complete and utter falsehoods (and these lies are the backbone of the arguments being made by his followers), then you can never debate from a position of strength (much less neutrality) as you begin the debate buried under a mountain of garbage
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