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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby Derwood » Mon Jul 16, 2018 4:03 pm

UMFan83 wrote:I know Trump doesn't make sense most of the time but I am having an especially difficult time following this logic:



So Obama found out that Russians were trying to manipulate the election in favor of republicans, but because he was confident in victory he did nothing?


Never mind the fact that Obama DID bring it up to Congress, and that the Turtle said that making it public was "divisively partisan" (paraphrased)
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby CubinNY » Mon Jul 16, 2018 4:25 pm

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UMFan83 wrote:I know Trump doesn't make sense most of the time but I am having an especially difficult time following this logic:



So Obama found out that Russians were trying to manipulate the election in favor of republicans, but because he was confident in victory he did nothing?


Never mind the fact that Obama DID bring it up to Congress, and that the Turtle said that making it public was "divisively partisan" (paraphrased)

He is a horsefeathering embarrassment and a buffoon. He told the Prime Minister of Finland that it was good to see him again since the NATO meeting in front of reporters and the world. Finland isn't in NATO.

He's such an idiot that all the stupid horsefeathers he does cannot properly be cataloged. He makes W look like Ken Jennings. I've never really hated someone I don't know besides a Cardinal baseball player (I'm looking at you Jim Edmonds), but I really horsefeathering hate him and his white trash family.
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby JudasIscariotTheBird » Mon Jul 16, 2018 4:43 pm

UMFan83 wrote:I know Trump doesn't make sense most of the time but I am having an especially difficult time following this logic:



So Obama found out that Russians were trying to manipulate the election in favor of republicans, but because he was confident in victory he did nothing?

I think this is actually, to at least some degree, accurate.
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby Derwood » Mon Jul 16, 2018 4:55 pm

So the day after he called the EU “our biggest foe”, Trump flat out refuses to condemn Putin about the meddling
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby CubinNY » Mon Jul 16, 2018 4:57 pm

JudasIscariotTheBird wrote:
UMFan83 wrote:I know Trump doesn't make sense most of the time but I am having an especially difficult time following this logic:



So Obama found out that Russians were trying to manipulate the election in favor of republicans, but because he was confident in victory he did nothing?

I think this is actually, to at least some degree, accurate.

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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby UMFan83 » Mon Jul 16, 2018 5:13 pm

JudasIscariotTheBird wrote:
UMFan83 wrote:I know Trump doesn't make sense most of the time but I am having an especially difficult time following this logic:



So Obama found out that Russians were trying to manipulate the election in favor of republicans, but because he was confident in victory he did nothing?

I think this is actually, to at least some degree, accurate.


Maybe I'm missing something. Obama obviously like most sane people didn't want Trump anywhere near the White House. I'm sure he thought like most that Hillary had it locked up but if there was proof that Russia was trying to interfere, even if it had a slight chance of swaying the election why would he just sit on his hands? Especially when his legacy is greatly swayed by whether Trump or Hillary won.

I mean I guess like Hillary not going to Wisconsin or democrats not going to the polls in large enough numbers maybe he was way too overconfident but man thats a terrible error to make.
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby Brian » Mon Jul 16, 2018 5:26 pm

Has Paul Ryan said he didn't see the press conference yet?
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Postby jersey cubs fan » Mon Jul 16, 2018 5:30 pm

Brian wrote:Has Paul Ryan said he didn't see the press conference yet?


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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby bcl412 » Mon Jul 16, 2018 5:41 pm

I expect Paul Ryan to do all kinds of horsefeathers to help hold trump accountable then?
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Postby Banedon » Mon Jul 16, 2018 5:43 pm

bcl412 wrote:I expect Paul Ryan to do all kinds of horsefeathers to help hold trump accountable then?


That's the beauty of his statement. horsefeathers all over Russia but say nothing about the President.
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Postby TBS Playoffs Insider » Mon Jul 16, 2018 5:50 pm

CyHawk_Cub wrote:


maybe a kinderguardian can step in
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby UMFan83 » Mon Jul 16, 2018 5:53 pm

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Walsh is a crazy piece of horsefeathers but I will at least give him credit that he consistently acts as a free thinker not just a conservative party drone.

(at least from what I've seen, feel free to correct me so I can hate him with 100% of my heart, not 99.9)
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby Banedon » Mon Jul 16, 2018 5:57 pm

There's a bunch more similar posts in his feed too...getting on other conservatives and Fox News to condemn this horsefeathers.

I find myself wondering if Trump finally found the thing that will get the right to turn on him.
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby CubinNY » Mon Jul 16, 2018 5:57 pm

UMFan83 wrote:
CyHawk_Cub wrote:


Walsh is a crazy piece of horsefeathers but I will at least give him credit that he consistently acts as a free thinker not just a conservative party drone.

(at least from what I've seen, feel free to correct me so I can hate him with 100% of my heart, not 99.9)

He's 100% bat-guano crazy and with little adaptive behavioral skills.
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby UK » Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:01 pm

UMFan83 wrote:
JudasIscariotTheBird wrote:
UMFan83 wrote:I know Trump doesn't make sense most of the time but I am having an especially difficult time following this logic:



So Obama found out that Russians were trying to manipulate the election in favor of republicans, but because he was confident in victory he did nothing?

I think this is actually, to at least some degree, accurate.


Maybe I'm missing something. Obama obviously like most sane people didn't want Trump anywhere near the White House. I'm sure he thought like most that Hillary had it locked up but if there was proof that Russia was trying to interfere, even if it had a slight chance of swaying the election why would he just sit on his hands? Especially when his legacy is greatly swayed by whether Trump or Hillary won.

I mean I guess like Hillary not going to Wisconsin or democrats not going to the polls in large enough numbers maybe he was way too overconfident but man thats a terrible error to make.


Obama's greatest flaw was that he was too nice to his adversaries. Whether that be the GOP (especially before 2010), Russia, and the 2016 election.
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby JudasIscariotTheBird » Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:07 pm

UK wrote:
UMFan83 wrote:
JudasIscariotTheBird wrote:I think this is actually, to at least some degree, accurate.


Maybe I'm missing something. Obama obviously like most sane people didn't want Trump anywhere near the White House. I'm sure he thought like most that Hillary had it locked up but if there was proof that Russia was trying to interfere, even if it had a slight chance of swaying the election why would he just sit on his hands? Especially when his legacy is greatly swayed by whether Trump or Hillary won.

I mean I guess like Hillary not going to Wisconsin or democrats not going to the polls in large enough numbers maybe he was way too overconfident but man thats a terrible error to make.


Obama's greatest flaw was that he was too nice to his adversaries. Whether that be the GOP (especially before 2010), Russia, and the 2016 election.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QS2a44F5TgM
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby Derwood » Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:09 pm

Everyone has the right to be appalled by Trump about this. But asking “why is he siding with Russia over the US?” Is the wrong question. This isn’t about the US. It’s about his own legitimacy as president. To admit to Russian meddling is to admit that he maybe didn’t defeat Clinton fair and square. He will never cop to that. So he’s naturally going to agree with Putin, who is no doubt feeding him a constant narrative about how he’s a great president and how all of these other people (FBI, CIA, Congress, EU, media) are out to get him.
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby Banedon » Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:21 pm

Fox News has turned on Trump. Kilmeade criticized his tweet this morning, and Cavuto called the press conf "disgusting" and said "this sets us back a lot".
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Re: Politics & Current Events

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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby Proven Veteran » Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:32 pm

"President Donald Trump says Russian President Vladimir Putin made an "incredible offer" to allow Russian and U.S. investigators to work together on allegations of Russian cyber attacks.

Trump says Putin suggested the U.S. provide its intelligence to the Russian military so Russia can determine the truth of what happened.

Trump says he has "great confidence" in his intelligence agencies who have concluded Russia interfered in the election. But Trump says Putin was "incredibly strong and powerful today" in his contention that Russia had nothing to do with election interference."

This sounds smart.
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby CyHawk_Cub » Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:45 pm

Was disappointed, but not surprised, by #nevertrump'ers like Tom Nichols spewing venom at anyone daring to chide Ben Sasse for his impotent tweet thread yesterday. Claiming elected US senators have no power to change presidential behavior is such a horsefeathering cop out. More flowery language from Sasse, Flake, McCain, et al, to come. Meanwhile:

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