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Postby d_money » Fri Oct 05, 2018 11:10 am

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UK wrote:Once Kavanaugh is selected and the Dems take the house, I hope they immediately initiate impeachment proceedings. In fact, I would use it as a motivating tool in House races for the midterms. I would be disappointed yet not surprised if the Democratically held House did nothing for 2 years.


Even if the house began impeachment proceedings, they won't be able to remove him. They'd need a supermajority in the Senate for that.

Packing the court is probably a greater likelihood as you only need simple majorities in the House and Senate.
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Postby Banedon » Fri Oct 05, 2018 1:45 pm

Of course he is.

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Postby Banedon » Fri Oct 05, 2018 1:46 pm



She's voting yes.
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Postby Sammy Sofa » Fri Oct 05, 2018 1:51 pm

d_money wrote:
Banedon wrote:
UK wrote:Once Kavanaugh is selected and the Dems take the house, I hope they immediately initiate impeachment proceedings. In fact, I would use it as a motivating tool in House races for the midterms. I would be disappointed yet not surprised if the Democratically held House did nothing for 2 years.


Even if the house began impeachment proceedings, they won't be able to remove him. They'd need a supermajority in the Senate for that.

Packing the court is probably a greater likelihood as you only need simple majorities in the House and Senate.


I am continually intrigued (and that's being VERY diplomatic) by the constant talk from people on the Left that seems to see a decent shot at re-taking the House as essentially being the obvious lead-in to the Democrats somehow dominating....everywhere? Like, instead of it just being a foot in the door of a government where every federal branch and most state level judicial and government entities are dominated by Republicans.

Once Kavanaugh is in, he is almost certainly in for life.
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby wvcbxl » Fri Oct 05, 2018 2:16 pm

So on the day that a man accused of sexual assault is poised to take another step towards SCOTUS, the Nobel Peace Prize is awarded to a woman who survived being an IS sex slave and not to the man who thought he should get it for talking to Kim Jong-un.
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby Banedon » Fri Oct 05, 2018 2:44 pm

Murkowski voted NO on cloture.

EDIT: horsefeathers Manchin voted AYE.
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby JudasIscariotTheBird » Fri Oct 05, 2018 2:48 pm

Banedon wrote:Murkowski voted NO on cloture.

EDIT: horsefeathers Manchin voted AYE.

DINOs gunna DINO
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby Banedon » Fri Oct 05, 2018 2:52 pm

JudasIscariotTheBird wrote:
Banedon wrote:Murkowski voted NO on cloture.

EDIT: horsefeathers Manchin voted AYE.

DINOs gunna DINO


Without that, they would've had to call in Pence just to advance to a final vote.
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Postby profisme » Fri Oct 05, 2018 3:02 pm

I thought that a Senator had to be present to vote for a Supreme Court confirmation. Senator Daines is here in Montana for his daughter's wedding this weekend. Curious if I am incorrect about that. I didn't think they could do a vote by proxy when it comes to matters like this.
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Postby Banedon » Fri Oct 05, 2018 3:18 pm

profisme wrote:I thought that a Senator had to be present to vote for a Supreme Court confirmation. Senator Daines is here in Montana for his daughter's wedding this weekend. Curious if I am incorrect about that. I didn't think they could do a vote by proxy when it comes to matters like this.


This was a procedural vote, not the final one.
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Postby squally1313 » Fri Oct 05, 2018 3:30 pm

Banedon wrote:
profisme wrote:I thought that a Senator had to be present to vote for a Supreme Court confirmation. Senator Daines is here in Montana for his daughter's wedding this weekend. Curious if I am incorrect about that. I didn't think they could do a vote by proxy when it comes to matters like this.


This was a procedural vote, not the final one.


Yeah but the actual vote is tomorrow night now, at which point Daines would presumably still be in Montana.
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby Banedon » Fri Oct 05, 2018 3:36 pm

squally1313 wrote:
Banedon wrote:
profisme wrote:I thought that a Senator had to be present to vote for a Supreme Court confirmation. Senator Daines is here in Montana for his daughter's wedding this weekend. Curious if I am incorrect about that. I didn't think they could do a vote by proxy when it comes to matters like this.


This was a procedural vote, not the final one.


Yeah but the actual vote is tomorrow night now, at which point Daines would presumably still be in Montana.


There's talk that it could be moved to the wee hours of the night to give him time to return. They won't vote without him...especially after what Murkowski just did.
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby d_money » Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:05 pm

Banedon wrote:
JudasIscariotTheBird wrote:
Banedon wrote:Murkowski voted NO on cloture.

EDIT: horsefeathers Manchin voted AYE.

DINOs gunna DINO


Without that, they would've had to call in Pence just to advance to a final vote.

Whether BK makes it or not - be on the lookout for some variation of the term “bi-partisan” - even though it’ll be by a narrow margin either way.
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby Banedon » Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:20 pm

Murkowski effectively said she's a no tomorrow

Flake effectively said he's a yes tomorrow.

Will be really interesting to see what Collins says this afternoon. A yes will clinch it for Kav. A no means that Manchin's vote becomes the deciding one.
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Postby NonProfitCow » Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:37 pm

It will go 50-50 with Pence casting the decider. Kavanaugh gets confirmed and an R gets to save face if their polling numbers take a hit and say that they only voted no because they knew Pence would say yes.
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Postby Regular Show » Fri Oct 05, 2018 5:23 pm

Banedon wrote:


That's hilarious.

Collins is definitely voting yes and I hope she suffers when she's up for re-election in a couple years.

Actually, even if she voted "No" on Kavanaugh I'd still hope she suffers in 2020. horsefeathers Republicans. They're all terrible.
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby Tim » Fri Oct 05, 2018 6:08 pm

CyHawk_Cub wrote:

As someone that has hired many people over the years, job interviews kinda work the opposite way. If I get a candidate that I think is otherwise awesome, but one of his references tells me that he's been accused of crimes (but never convicted!)...I'm probably going to be going in another direction. Sure, I don't have any proof that the guy is an horsefeathers. But I am going to err on the side of caution.

And then if I take the step of talking to him about the accusation and he starts getting irate, yelling and talking about conspiracy theories? Yeah, I'm definitely done.


The most grating part of all this is that the R's are getting away with framing this as an innocent until proven guilty situation. Passing on this guy doesn't ruin his life. He's still got a lifetime appointment as a judge on the second most powerful court in the country. Boo hoo.
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby Ding Dong Johnson » Fri Oct 05, 2018 6:36 pm

presumption of innocence is for criminal cases. horsefeathers this guy, he guilty
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby Sammy Sofa » Fri Oct 05, 2018 6:45 pm

Tim wrote:
CyHawk_Cub wrote:

As someone that has hired many people over the years, job interviews kinda work the opposite way. If I get a candidate that I think is otherwise awesome, but one of his references tells me that he's been accused of crimes (but never convicted!)...I'm probably going to be going in another direction. Sure, I don't have any proof that the guy is an horsefeathers. But I am going to err on the side of caution.

And then if I take the step of talking to him about the accusation and he starts getting irate, yelling and talking about conspiracy theories? Yeah, I'm definitely done.


Ah, but if he swore vengeance after rattling off his list of enemies? HIRE THAT MAN IMMEDIATELY.
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby squally1313 » Fri Oct 05, 2018 7:11 pm

Well 5 minutes of good news in the Chicago cop shooting verdict, happy I got to switch to CNN to watch Susan Collins trash the democrats and put the required vote towards Kavanaugh.
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