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Postby minnesotacubsfan » Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:55 pm

retired or "retired"?

who else wonders if this is Trumps way of forcing the investigation into the Democrats hands?
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby jersey cubs fan » Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:00 pm

minnesotacubsfan wrote:retired or "retired"?

who else wonders if this is Trumps way of forcing the investigation into the Democrats hands?

What? Force it into their hands?
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby Omar » Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:05 pm

Next step: Fire Mueller
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby UMFan83 » Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:13 pm

Regardless of the AG, wouldnt firing Mueller still be a disastrous move for Trump, similar to Nixon firing the special investigator during Watergate? (not to mention Nixon basically forcing the current AG to resign before the firing)
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Postby minnesotacubsfan » Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:26 pm

Crooked Hilary going to jail! on the bright side, maybe at least it will keep her out of the 2020 election
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Postby Sammy Sofa » Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:28 pm

UMFan83 wrote:Regardless of the AG, wouldnt firing Mueller still be a disastrous move for Trump, similar to Nixon firing the special investigator during Watergate? (not to mention Nixon basically forcing the current AG to resign before the firing)


As with so may things at this level, so much of it comes down to the willingness of people in power to actually put feet to the fire. That was a disaster for Nixon because enough of the GOP at the time ultimately showed it had some kind of standards and ended up pushing him out.

Given how openly today's GOP detests Mueller and his investigation, AND willingly line up for Trump (who consistently maintains around a 90% approval rating with people who identify as Republicans), I don't see many of them, if any, going to bat against any actions Trump of the DoJ take against the investigation. They'll likely just crow about how unpopular it is and "no collusion" and not give a horsefeathers what anyone else thinks or says.
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby minnesotacubsfan » Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:35 pm

jersey cubs fan wrote:
minnesotacubsfan wrote:retired or "retired"?

who else wonders if this is Trumps way of forcing the investigation into the Democrats hands?

What? Force it into their hands?


yes, get rid of Sessions, then Mueller and end the Russian probe. The only group left to carry the investigation would be the House dems who some would say can't afford the burden. I personally would like the House Dems to subpoena the crap out of his dealings/tax returns/etc, but if nothing is found or brought forward well before preparation for 2020's election, it really will be painted as a witch hunt to many americans. it becomes a gamble for the House Dems if they dont find something fast.
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Postby Omar » Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:42 pm

Per @PeteWilliamsNBC -- Rod Rosenstein will cease oversight of Mueller investigation. Acting AG expected to step in -- but can only fire Special Counsel "for cause"
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby Chocolate Milk » Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:46 pm

Sammy Sofa wrote:
UMFan83 wrote:Regardless of the AG, wouldnt firing Mueller still be a disastrous move for Trump, similar to Nixon firing the special investigator during Watergate? (not to mention Nixon basically forcing the current AG to resign before the firing)


As with so may things at this level, so much of it comes down to the willingness of people in power to actually put feet to the fire. That was a disaster for Nixon because enough of the GOP at the time ultimately showed it had some kind of standards and ended up pushing him out.

Given how openly today's GOP detests Mueller and his investigation, I don't see many of the, if any, going to bat against any actions Trump of the DoJ take against the investigation. They'll likely just crow about how unpopular it is and "no collusion" and not give a horsefeathers what anyone else thinks or says.

100% agree with this take. Nothing will move the needle. They'll just shrug it off, call it a hoax, and move on. I don't know what it's going to take to convince people that Trump will never be held accountable for anything politically.
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby CyHawk_Cub » Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:01 pm

Dude's gonna withhold funding from Mueller, seems to be the popular opinion

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Postby minnesotacubsfan » Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:28 pm

yea. get rid of the courts. who needs 'em. tyranny, thats what matters!
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby CoolHandLuke » Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:50 pm

CyHawk_Cub wrote:


I can't tell if I agree or disagree with him
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby Sammy Sofa » Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:35 pm

CoolHandLuke wrote:
CyHawk_Cub wrote:


I can't tell if I agree or disagree with him


Yeah. This is either a solid burn, or just confirmation of how much of a dorky white guy he is.
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby squally1313 » Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:39 pm

Sammy Sofa wrote:
CoolHandLuke wrote:
CyHawk_Cub wrote:


I can't tell if I agree or disagree with him


Yeah. This is either a solid burn, or just confirmation of how much of a dorky white guy he is.


It's Kenny Chesney, if anyone cares. He's not too far off, but he obviously means it in an adoring way towards both of them.

He has plenty worse tweets out there.
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby WrigleyField 22 » Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:21 am

Interested to hear e how people's local election went around the state and country.

DuPage County here, and we are set to go from one D on the country board to 7. County clerk will also be a D, and all the other country seats were close, except for one or two where there wasn't a challenger, but all are staying R. Two judicial races split R/D.

My State senator (Nybo) will end up losing by about 300 votes to his D challenger (he beat the same challenger with 60% in 2014). Our state rep was a close race in a formerly very safe R seat with a retiring incumbent. I wonder if the Madigan effect played a role and/or the female candidate getting strong across the aisle support in a good year for women candidates. (both aforementioned judicial wins were female candidates over men as well).

The state races all favored the D candidate, though very narrowly for JB over Rauner.

A few non binding props went overwhelming towards the more conservative views, except for one about supporting legislation to combat climate change. (consolidate local districts, oppose vehicle mileage tax, oppose prop tax increase to retire state debt.).

The one binding prop was for a peppery tax amd school board bond which did pass pretty easily.
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby CubinNY » Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:03 am

abuck1220 wrote:
Banedon wrote:
Transmogrified Tiger wrote:Why is Nancy Pelosi in particular a good bogeyman, the fact that she's from California? All the 'liberal elite' scaremongering just uses her as an avatar, anyone they make Speaker would work just as well.


Name recognition for one. She's done the job a lot, and has already had a LONG history of the GOP demonizing her. There's no work necessary for them to go right back to doing the same.

There were midterm ads vilifying Dem candidates just for associating or agreeing with Pelosi.


EVERY ad attacking a local female democratic candidate included a shot of nancy pelosi. EVERY ONE. a photo of the local female candidate's face next to a photo of nancy pelosi's face. none of these people have ever met or associated with pelosi in any way. a lot of those women won so i guess it didn't work too well.

dems did pretty well in iowa aside from the governor race. pretty bizarre.

It’s a wolf pack dilemma. Pelosi is a placeholder. Whoever is in that position gets to be the alpha wolf whose leading the others in destroying America with their far-left socialist agenda.
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