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Re: Politics & Current Events

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:41 pm
by NOLA
Bote McBoteface wrote:So lets say Trump declares a national emergency and secures funding for his wall that way. Im pretty sure the courts will strike it down the same day, but lets say it goes to court and its ruled constitutional.

Now, this is just my thinking, I didnt take this from somebody with actual knowledge. But, could the next Democrat President then use that as a precedent to declare our healthcare industry a national emergency, and secure funding for a socialized healthcare system without requiring a supermajority in congress? IF SO, please proceed, Mr. President.

I am a sorta hesistant to fight as dirty as Republicans politically, and normalizing the declaration of National Emergencies for political reasons is a slippery slope. It could really lessen the reaction and sense of urgency when an actual emergency happens. Having lived through a half assed response to a real national emergency, that scares the horsefeathers out of me.

Re: Politics & Current Events

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:23 am
by Bluescale
Bote McBoteface wrote:Now, this is just my thinking, I didnt take this from somebody with actual knowledge. But, could the next Democrat President then use that as a precedent to declare our healthcare industry a national emergency, and secure funding for a socialized healthcare system without requiring a supermajority in congress? IF SO, please proceed, Mr. President.


A couple point..

1. Not really. When declaring a national emergency, the administration can't simply spend money from nowhere. The President can take money that is allocated to other military projects. If I remember, there's something like 20B or 30B in projects out there he can raid. Things like some of the fighter jet retrofits, military hospital upgrades, etc...Socializing healthcare would cost a lot more, and the impact on important military programs would be significant.

2. It's a horsefeathers move, and even if I agreed with the cause, I wouldn't want a president to utilize it. The last thing we need is for the executive branch to continue grabbing more and more power from the legislative branch.

Re: Politics & Current Events

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:57 am
by big ball chunky time
That’s a house of cards storyline

Re: Politics & Current Events

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:57 am
by Derwood
CNN now running profile pieces on workers struggling with the government shutdown. Sad shots of dad with kids, not knowing if he can afford to pay his mortgage, etc.

Re: Politics & Current Events

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:12 am
by CyHawk_Cub
Heh



Re: Politics & Current Events

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:19 am
by CubinNY
Ironic (or not). If Clinton would’ve won there would probably be a supermajority in the Senate and a larger majority in the house for Republicans. The GOP is disintegrating in front of our eyes.

Re: Politics & Current Events

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:36 pm
by Transmogrified Tiger

Re: Politics & Current Events

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:07 pm
by Ding Dong Johnson
j.f.c.


Re: Politics & Current Events

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:43 pm
by JudasIscariotTheBird
Ding Dong Johnson wrote:j.f.c.


I'm glad that I have no religious affiliation so that I can wish death upon him with no guilt what-so-ever. Maybe I need to find a religion where I can make believe that my thoughts and prayers for death can affect the changes I wish for.

Re: Politics & Current Events

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:00 pm
by big ball chunky time
Transmogrified Tiger wrote:Thought this was interesting: The 5 Key Constituencies Of The 2020 Democratic Primary

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very scientific

Biden
15

Harris
18 ½

Booker
17

Beto
16 ½

Brown
16

Castro
16

Warren
15

Gillibrand
15

Bernie
14

Klobuchar
13 ½

Re: Politics & Current Events

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:24 pm
by CyHawk_Cub
The Trump clan is scrambling, trying to figure out how to get their grubby paws on that $$


Re: Politics & Current Events

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:34 pm
by CyHawk_Cub


Re: Politics & Current Events

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:35 pm
by CyHawk_Cub

Re: Politics & Current Events

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:05 pm
by gflore34
Is it not too far fetched to think that should Trump get the wall funding, he's found a way to funnel some of the money into his holdings?

Re: Politics & Current Events

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:10 pm
by JudasIscariotTheBird
CyHawk_Cub wrote:

I'm glad that I have no religious affiliation so that I can wish death upon him with no guilt what-so-ever. Maybe I need to find a religion where I can make believe that my thoughts and prayers for death can affect the changes I wish for.

Re: Politics & Current Events

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:51 pm
by Banedon

Re: Politics & Current Events

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:56 pm
by big ball chunky time
Banedon wrote:


she must have seen my point scoring system up there

Re: Politics & Current Events

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:59 pm
by WrigleyField 22
TBS Playoffs Insider wrote:
Banedon wrote:


she must have seen my point scoring system up there

Well yea when she flips Oklahoma it's in the bag.

Re: Politics & Current Events

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:05 pm
by The Logan
Oh she'll really chap the GOP's bigotted ass if she wins

Re: Politics & Current Events

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:08 pm
by gflore34
The Logan wrote:Oh she'll really chap the GOP's bigotted ass if she wins


You bet, just think of how many more stories we'll see of poor white men staring out of windows feeling they'll been disenfranchised and America has lost touch with them.

Re: Politics & Current Events

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:11 pm
by JudasIscariotTheBird
gflore34 wrote:
The Logan wrote:Oh she'll really chap the GOP's bigotted ass if she wins


You bet, just think of how many more stories we'll see of poor white men staring out of windows feeling they'll been disenfranchised and America has lost touch with them.

I know close to zilch about her politics, but she seems sharp as a tack. I especially liked her grilling of Kavanaugh during the confirmation.

I think whomever consolidates the black vote between her and Booker will easily become the favorite to win. If they both stay in deep into the primaries, they eat each other's lunch.

Re: Politics & Current Events

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:26 pm
by Ding Dong Johnson
I think Kamala is my favorite of the bunch. so far.

Re: Politics & Current Events

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:30 pm
by Brian
I'm excited to find out what Trump's racist and sexist nickname for her will be.

Re: Politics & Current Events

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:35 pm
by Ding Dong Johnson
DJT wrote:They say a wall is medieval. Well, so is a wheel

Re: Politics & Current Events

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:45 pm
by CyHawk_Cub

short thread:
Spoiler: show