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Postby NOLA » Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:13 pm

Oh well, that POTUS race was fun while it lasted Sen Warren.

It certainly seems like the Right's scorched earth investigative team is locked in right now. If you are a Dem holding office and/or seeking higher office, you might want to do some personal vetting of your past.
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Postby soccer10k » Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:21 pm

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I’m definitely failing to connect the dots here. Please explain?
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Postby Sammy Sofa » Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:26 pm

soccer10k wrote:
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I’m definitely failing to connect the dots here. Please explain?


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... pology-bar
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby CubinNY » Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:48 pm

She's already apologized.
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Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:49 pm

The part that I'm missing is did she stand to benefit from claiming Native American citizenship on the bar?

Not that this isn't a bad look if not, just trying to understand the degrees of bad.
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby squally1313 » Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:11 pm

Transmogrified Tiger wrote:The part that I'm missing is did she stand to benefit from claiming Native American citizenship on the bar?

Not that this isn't a bad look if not, just trying to understand the degrees of bad.


That's always the stance her opponents have taken, with the assumption that based on a couple pieces of evidence that shows she did this, she must have been doing it everywhere. Per wikipedia, the Boston Globe did a report that showed it played no part in her hiring at Harvard (and subsequent positions), but I think it's one of those things that's going to be hard to prove one way or another.
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby Derwood » Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:32 pm

This is Warren’s version of Hillary’s emails. It will follow her forever, and addressing it is a losing move
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Postby minnesotacubsfan » Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:28 am

Who gives a horsefeathers what part of her ancestry she identifies with
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby Derwood » Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:33 am

minnesotacubsfan wrote:Who gives a horsefeathers what part of her ancestry she identifies with


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Postby OleMissCub » Thu Feb 07, 2019 4:13 am

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Postby big ball chunky time » Thu Feb 07, 2019 4:53 am

minnesotacubsfan wrote:Who gives a horsefeathers what part of her ancestry she identifies with


Native Americans?
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Postby TruffleShuffle » Thu Feb 07, 2019 5:14 am

Derwood wrote:This is Warren’s version of Hillary’s emails. It will follow her forever, and addressing it is a losing move


it's also like hillary's e-mails because there will continue to be a trickle of these stories from various jobs that she applied for, without anything really new or interesting being contained in the story, but it will be reported regardless.

what it pretty much boils down to was that she listed herself as native american because of stories that she was told by her family, it was probably insensitive but not done with malice, she didn't handle the stories well after they came out (just like hillary), and then she ultimately did the right thing and apologized. it shouldn't really make a difference to whether she's a viable candidate, but it has and will.
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby TomtheBombadil » Thu Feb 07, 2019 5:51 am

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minnesotacubsfan wrote:Who gives a horsefeathers what part of her ancestry she identifies with


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Postby JudasIscariotTheBird » Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:56 am

Denver teachers almost certainly will go on strike on Monday as the new governor has declined to intercede. Denver Public Schools are going to try and use subs as scabs and keep the schools open. It is going to be a complete disaster.
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby minnesotacubsfan » Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:17 pm

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minnesotacubsfan wrote:Who gives a horsefeathers what part of her ancestry she identifies with


Native Americans?



Are they really offended that she would identify with them in terms of race?
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Postby jersey cubs fan » Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:27 pm

minnesotacubsfan wrote:
TBS Playoffs Insider wrote:
minnesotacubsfan wrote:Who gives a horsefeathers what part of her ancestry she identifies with


Native Americans?



Are they really offended that she would identify with them in terms of race?

I believe several have spoken out about the various problems of 99.9% white people claiming to be Native American.
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Postby Hairyducked Idiot » Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:30 pm

minnesotacubsfan wrote:
TBS Playoffs Insider wrote:
minnesotacubsfan wrote:Who gives a horsefeathers what part of her ancestry she identifies with


Native Americans?



Are they really offended that she would identify with them in terms of race?


Yes. White people with no connection to their culture claiming native status for legal benefits is an offensive act in those circles
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby minnesotacubsfan » Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:43 pm

Hairyducked Idiot wrote:
minnesotacubsfan wrote:
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Native Americans?



Are they really offended that she would identify with them in terms of race?


Yes. White people with no connection to their culture claiming native status for legal benefits is an offensive act in those circles



That I get. I wasn’t clear that she was benefitting in any way really.
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Postby d_money » Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:45 pm

minnesotacubsfan wrote:
Hairyducked Idiot wrote:
minnesotacubsfan wrote:

Are they really offended that she would identify with them in terms of race?


Yes. White people with no connection to their culture claiming native status for legal benefits is an offensive act in those circles



That I get. I wasn’t clear that she was benefitting in any way really.

You’re joking, right?
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby minnesotacubsfan » Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:12 pm

d_money wrote:
minnesotacubsfan wrote:
Hairyducked Idiot wrote:
Yes. White people with no connection to their culture claiming native status for legal benefits is an offensive act in those circles



That I get. I wasn’t clear that she was benefitting in any way really.

You’re joking, right?



No, I’m assuming more innocence in the claim then what is warranted. Since it wasn’t articulated very well here, I helped myself to an article or two. Probably the best one that I could find:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatod ... 1668763002
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby OleMissCub » Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:15 pm

minnesotacubsfan wrote:
TBS Playoffs Insider wrote:
minnesotacubsfan wrote:Who gives a horsefeathers what part of her ancestry she identifies with


Native Americans?



Are they really offended that she would identify with them in terms of race?


Warren is a white person. She grew up knowing she was white. Growing up with family lore of having some Native American ancestry shouldn't lead an intelligent and honest person down a path to where they claim Native American or minority status on official documents. I can only speculate as to why she would claim Native American as her primary race on a document, but I suspect there was some improper motivation behind doing so.

I have a great-great grandfather who was straight up 100% Choctaw, so I guess that makes me 1/16th Choctaw. The idea that I would ever identify myself as Native-American is ludicrous. Hell, I suspect you and half the people on this board have Native-American ancestry 6-10 generations ago (as Warren's DNA test showed).

Bottom line is that unless it is shown that she derived an actual benefit from claiming minority status, then it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things other than it being a bad look for her.

As far as politicians go, if that's the only real skeleton in her closet, then she's a saint.
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby The_Achiever » Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:22 pm

I think that "bad look" will be unfortunately something she can't shake. It'll be like Hillary's emails, no way I don't see this lingering as long as her hat is in the ring.
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby Tim » Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:28 pm

Donald Trump: 17 federal & state investigations for criminal wrong doing
Elizabeth Warren: sketchily (but legally?) identified herself as American Indian 40 years ago

American People: Warren should drop out.
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Re: Politics & Current Events

Postby The_Achiever » Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:32 pm

Tim wrote:Donald Trump: 17 federal & state investigations for criminal wrong doing
Elizabeth Warren: sketchily (but legally?) identified herself as American Indian 40 years ago

American People: Warren should drop out.


Heh, I almost added that she should be more like Trump and just swim in corruption and scandal. Trump fans don't care one bit about any of it.
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