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Postby UK » Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:52 pm

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This guy appears smart enough and dedicated to his duties regarding the election but, is he really that stupid?


If the election was held tomorrow, he'd vote for Trump again.

Also, look at who this guy's boss is and then I have no sympathy for him.
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Postby UK » Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:59 pm

Brian wrote:They're doing it again, hyping up a legislative hearing in Pennsylvania on voter fraud tomorrow.... it's actually Pennsylvania Republicans meeting with Rudy and maybe Trump at a Wyndham hotel in freaking Gettysburg.


Maybe not....

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Postby UK » Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:08 pm

Like the confederacy, the Trump team retreats at Gettysburg.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Postby gflore34 » Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:10 pm

UK wrote:
Brian wrote:They're doing it again, hyping up a legislative hearing in Pennsylvania on voter fraud tomorrow.... it's actually Pennsylvania Republicans meeting with Rudy and maybe Trump at a Wyndham hotel in freaking Gettysburg.


Maybe not....



Given Trump has expressed concerns about his "legal" team making him look like a fool I wonder, if this, whatever the horsefeathers it might be, is a huddle to produce "official" evidence?
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Postby Derwood » Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:24 pm

UK wrote:
gflore34 wrote:



This guy appears smart enough and dedicated to his duties regarding the election but, is he really that stupid?


If the election was held tomorrow, he'd vote for Trump again.

Also, look at who this guy's boss is and then I have no sympathy for him.


“I didn’t think he’d eat MY face!” says man who voted for face-eating tiger.
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Postby Rob » Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:24 pm

Until recently, I had harbored some hope that the GOP might dump Trump once he became a loser.

But continuing to see Republican "leadership" go all-in defending him during the midst of his massive attack on the rule of law... It seems they've done their calculations and figure they need the MAGA crazies to win an election. So they're going to keep placating these fools. They'll continue to sell out all their ethics and even their policy positions, because they can't afford for Trump to start a MAGA party and siphon votes from them. So they've sold their souls for power.

Just once, would it kill these guys to say "maybe instead of catering to the crazies, we can be a big tent party again. Maybe stop being homophobic and we can try to attract gay guys who like small government? Or stop pretending climate change doesn't exist so we can attract environmentalists who like freedom of religion?"

Nope. Gotta lean into the crazy.
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Postby Hairyducked Idiot » Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:37 pm

Rob wrote:Until recently, I had harbored some hope that the GOP might dump Trump once he became a loser.

But continuing to see Republican "leadership" go all-in defending him during the midst of his massive attack on the rule of law... It seems they've done their calculations and figure they need the MAGA crazies to win an election. So they're going to keep placating these fools. They'll continue to sell out all their ethics and even their policy positions, because they can't afford for Trump to start a MAGA party and siphon votes from them. So they've sold their souls for power.

Just once, would it kill these guys to say "maybe instead of catering to the crazies, we can be a big tent party again. Maybe stop being homophobic and we can try to attract gay guys who like small government? Or stop pretending climate change doesn't exist so we can attract environmentalists who like freedom of religion?"

Nope. Gotta lean into the crazy.


There’s a lot of true believers in actual power, too. They let it fester too long and half their caucus is people who grew up on the lies.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Postby gflore34 » Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:37 pm

Rob wrote:Until recently, I had harbored some hope that the GOP might dump Trump once he became a loser.

But continuing to see Republican "leadership" go all-in defending him during the midst of his massive attack on the rule of law... It seems they've done their calculations and figure they need the MAGA crazies to win an election. So they're going to keep placating these fools. They'll continue to sell out all their ethics and even their policy positions, because they can't afford for Trump to start a MAGA party and siphon votes from them. So they've sold their souls for power.

Just once, would it kill these guys to say "maybe instead of catering to the crazies, we can be a big tent party again. Maybe stop being homophobic and we can try to attract gay guys who like small government? Or stop pretending climate change doesn't exist so we can attract environmentalists who like freedom of religion?"

Nope. Gotta lean into the crazy.


Maybe because a good many of them appear to be thoughtless and thereby, gullible? Marks for everyone of the GOP's policies, they'll willingly kill themselves because they were told to do so. If they were thoughtful they'd see in a nanosecond the GOP is the polar opposite of populist, conservative, sure, Trump said all horsefeathers Bannon and others told him to say in 2016. But, with thought its pretty easy to spot the BS, I mean, look who was delivering the message, that alone should have doomed Trump.
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Postby CubinNY » Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:05 pm

Rob wrote:Until recently, I had harbored some hope that the GOP might dump Trump once he became a loser.

But continuing to see Republican "leadership" go all-in defending him during the midst of his massive attack on the rule of law... It seems they've done their calculations and figure they need the MAGA crazies to win an election. So they're going to keep placating these fools. They'll continue to sell out all their ethics and even their policy positions, because they can't afford for Trump to start a MAGA party and siphon votes from them. So they've sold their souls for power.

Just once, would it kill these guys to say "maybe instead of catering to the crazies, we can be a big tent party again. Maybe stop being homophobic and we can try to attract gay guys who like small government? Or stop pretending climate change doesn't exist so we can attract environmentalists who like freedom of religion?"

Nope. Gotta lean into the crazy.

Their policy is to stay in power and cater to those who contribute to their ability to stay in power. That's it. If they could find a way to monetize the sun they'd be for renewable energy. if gun safety was more profitable, they'd be for that. They don't have ethics, personal or otherwise. They've never been a big tent in our lifetime.
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Postby CyHawk_Cub » Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:31 pm

Nah, they see it. Fear of being called "Socialist!!" is the Dem version of fear of mean tweets from Trump.

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Postby Sammy Sofa » Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:33 pm

But they're all so competent and capable! Surely that's enough!
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Progressives will never stop pikachu facing when they find out that losing the primaries means they won’t get what they want from elections
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Postby Sammy Sofa » Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:50 pm

Hairyducked Idiot wrote:Progressives will never stop pikachu facing when they find out that losing the primaries means they won’t get what they want from elections


I mean, to be fair, the Democrats are mostly trying REALLY horsefeathering hard to suck these days.
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Postby JudasIscariotTheBird » Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:51 pm

Hairyducked Idiot wrote:Progressives will never stop pikachu facing when they find out that losing the primaries means they won’t get what they want from elections

What primaries are you talking about? This is classic moderate both sides of their mouth bs. When the primaries are going on, its all about winning the general election. Then when the general election is over, its all about who won the primaries. It's a joke. We've been through this cycle over and over again, and Dems are going to get their asses kicked in 2022 if this austerity nonsense really happens, and we completely deserve it.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Postby Soul » Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:57 pm

Banedon wrote:https://twitter.com/NoahCRothman/status/1331441529802657793


"I don't get it"

Full stop.
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Postby Sammy Sofa » Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:58 pm

JudasIscariotTheBird wrote:
Hairyducked Idiot wrote:Progressives will never stop pikachu facing when they find out that losing the primaries means they won’t get what they want from elections

What primaries are you talking about? This is classic moderate both sides of their mouth bs. When the primaries are going on, its all about winning the general election. Then when the general election is over, its all about who won the primaries. It's a joke. We've been through this cycle over and over again, and Dems are going to get their asses kicked in 2022 if this austerity nonsense really happens, and we completely deserve it.


horsefeathers, they're probably getting their asses kicked no matter what in 2022, so might as well even just try to go down swinging. Oh well.
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Postby JudasIscariotTheBird » Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:02 pm

Sammy Sofa wrote:
JudasIscariotTheBird wrote:
Hairyducked Idiot wrote:Progressives will never stop pikachu facing when they find out that losing the primaries means they won’t get what they want from elections

What primaries are you talking about? This is classic moderate both sides of their mouth bs. When the primaries are going on, its all about winning the general election. Then when the general election is over, its all about who won the primaries. It's a joke. We've been through this cycle over and over again, and Dems are going to get their asses kicked in 2022 if this austerity nonsense really happens, and we completely deserve it.


horsefeathers, they're probably getting their asses kicked no matter what in 2022, so might as well even just try to go down swinging. Oh well.

Appearantly some people don't want to swing in the first place. They live only for a chance to die later. Its crazy.
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JudasIscariotTheBird wrote:
Hairyducked Idiot wrote:Progressives will never stop pikachu facing when they find out that losing the primaries means they won’t get what they want from elections

What primaries are you talking about? This is classic moderate both sides of their mouth bs. When the primaries are going on, its all about winning the general election. Then when the general election is over, its all about who won the primaries. It's a joke. We've been through this cycle over and over again, and Dems are going to get their asses kicked in 2022 if this austerity nonsense really happens, and we completely deserve it.


The primaries that led to Biden becoming the nominee
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Postby Soul » Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:04 pm

JudasIscariotTheBird wrote:
Hairyducked Idiot wrote:Progressives will never stop pikachu facing when they find out that losing the primaries means they won’t get what they want from elections

What primaries are you talking about? This is classic moderate both sides of their mouth bs. When the primaries are going on, its all about winning the general election. Then when the general election is over, its all about who won the primaries. It's a joke. We've been through this cycle over and over again, and Dems are going to get their asses kicked in 2022 if this austerity nonsense really happens, and we completely deserve it.


Are you surprised? It was clear this is what Democrats wanted as a whole when they lined up behind Joe to freeze Bernie out.
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Postby JudasIscariotTheBird » Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:11 pm

Hairyducked Idiot wrote:
JudasIscariotTheBird wrote:
Hairyducked Idiot wrote:Progressives will never stop pikachu facing when they find out that losing the primaries means they won’t get what they want from elections

What primaries are you talking about? This is classic moderate both sides of their mouth bs. When the primaries are going on, its all about winning the general election. Then when the general election is over, its all about who won the primaries. It's a joke. We've been through this cycle over and over again, and Dems are going to get their asses kicked in 2022 if this austerity nonsense really happens, and we completely deserve it.


The primaries that led to Biden becoming the nominee

Yeah, I remember those. More than half of the people voting for Biden didn't really care a lick about his policies or politics. They just felt he was most likely to beat Trump after he was last-man-standing when all of the other centrists dropped out. Then when the primaries were over, they were complaining about Bernie not going to bat for Biden, even though he might have campaigned more aggressively than Biden actually did. Now that the general election is over, you come here and point at the primaries for a reason progressives shouldn't expect to be thrown a singular bone. horsefeathers that. It's garbage, and its a great way to lose future elections, as evidenced by the history of the Democratic party. You can make your pikachu face in 2022.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Postby Hairyducked Idiot » Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:15 pm

If making progressives sad is the reason why Democrats sometimes lose national election cycles, you would think a progressive would win the Democratic nomination in a national primary once in awhile.

Democrats very well might lose a lot in 2022. But progressives roll out of bed in the morning and proclaim the next election lost because they aren’t happy before they become fully conscious. It’s pure reflex at this point.

It’s like Bears fans saying the team isn’t losing because they aren’t playing Bear football.
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Postby Sammy Sofa » Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:17 pm

Soul wrote:
JudasIscariotTheBird wrote:
Hairyducked Idiot wrote:Progressives will never stop pikachu facing when they find out that losing the primaries means they won’t get what they want from elections

What primaries are you talking about? This is classic moderate both sides of their mouth bs. When the primaries are going on, its all about winning the general election. Then when the general election is over, its all about who won the primaries. It's a joke. We've been through this cycle over and over again, and Dems are going to get their asses kicked in 2022 if this austerity nonsense really happens, and we completely deserve it.


Are you surprised? It was clear this is what Democrats wanted as a whole when they lined up behind Joe to freeze Bernie out.


Man, the establishment Dems suck butt, but I still can't wrap my head around how people figure that Democratic primary candidates dropping out hurt Sanders without it sounding like the sourest of grapes. Like, it basically made it him vs. Biden, and Sanders ended up doing worse than he did in 2016 when he was only facing Clinton. How is that a knock on anything but Sanders' campaign?
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