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Postby minnesotacubsfan » Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:26 am

ChiCubsFan wrote:Had the exact same thought yesterday. Most presidential terms come and go with relatively nothing major that one person can screw up so badly. Just our luck that a major pandemic breaks out in Trumps last year and he botches it even worse than I could have imagined. Depressing to think about really.

I dont think hes at the “hold my beer” point of this yet. Just wait to see what he does next
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Re: CDC Info on COVID-19 (Corona virus)

Postby Rob » Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:19 am

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I'm sorry you can't get tested. Hope it's nothing and that you and your family are safe. It must be very scary to be in your situation.


Yeah, the stress of not knowing is as bad as anything. I keep seeing all these stories of the illness taking a sudden turn for the worse, even after you seem to be getting better. I've had a few relatively-sleepless nights worrying over my wife and daughter already. I imagine there are a few more yet to come. Or of course, I could be the one waking up in the middle of the night gasping for air.

It is absolutely and unequivocably inexcusable that the federal government didn't do anything to make testing more readily available. They sat on their hands about this for months, and it's going to kill a lot of people before it's all said and done.


How are you feeling? Any updates?


Thanks for the concern. My symptoms have seemingly plateaued at moderate levels, while my wife and daughter (neither of whom got that sick to begin with) are both improved a bit.

The next couple days should be telling. But I’ve been well enough to watch my daughter so my wife can work, so that should bode well.
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Postby NOLA » Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:28 am

This pretty much sums it up.

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Postby David » Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:37 am





science is horsefeathering amazing
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Postby ChiCubsFan » Thu Mar 26, 2020 4:54 am

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.13.990226v1

This is good news, but they will have to still determine how long that immunity lasts. I read some yearly Coronaviruses only produce immunity that lasts a year or less and the SARS outbreak produced immunity that lasted a few years. Hopefully it’s at least a year and a half to buy us time till a vaccine is in mass production.
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Postby wvcbxl » Thu Mar 26, 2020 9:56 am

Politicians taking a step back is actually a good idea: Coronavirus crisis brings fragmented Brussels together

Having seen a number of "political leaders" on television, I completely agree with this clip:
But one area where Belgium might serve as a useful example to other countries is in its daily communication about the health emergency and the lockdown conditions. That operation is fronted not by politicians, but by scientific experts and spokespeople of the Belgium government’s crisis centre, a rapid-reaction unit of the civil service that can pull together expertise from different departments.


Those go out live every day at 11am on the social media accounts of the health ministry, who have mounted an impressive communication and information platform for Covid19.

FT is a great source for tracking this crisis all over the world: https://www.ft.com/coronavirus-latest
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Postby Wilson A2000 » Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:18 pm

If the Dec-Jan flu was really coronavirus, there’s no way to know? If doctors can’t figure out a reoccurring flu, they don’t take swabs and send them off to a lab?
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Postby Tim » Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:22 pm

wvcbxl wrote:Politicians taking a step back is actually a good idea: Coronavirus crisis brings fragmented Brussels together

Having seen a number of "political leaders" on television, I completely agree with this clip:
But one area where Belgium might serve as a useful example to other countries is in its daily communication about the health emergency and the lockdown conditions. That operation is fronted not by politicians, but by scientific experts and spokespeople of the Belgium government’s crisis centre, a rapid-reaction unit of the civil service that can pull together expertise from different departments.


Those go out live every day at 11am on the social media accounts of the health ministry, who have mounted an impressive communication and information platform for Covid19.

FT is a great source for tracking this crisis all over the world: https://www.ft.com/coronavirus-latest

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Postby Derwood » Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:12 pm

CNN reporting that NYC is running out of morgue space.

I changed the channel after that (ugh)
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Postby David » Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:17 pm



There's a lot of good info in this thread (bad and good)
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Postby David » Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:23 pm



click the tweet to read the thread
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Postby Derwood » Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:26 pm

David wrote:https://twitter.com/SenWarren/status/1243167825138798594?s=20


I understand the sentiment, but it will never happen. ~10 million people get the standard flu each year, and we know this because ~100,000 people are tested, and then they extrapolate the data. It's completely unrealistic to think that every single person will get tested
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Postby OleMissCub » Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:26 pm

Lots of stories like this emerging out of New York once they started prescribing the malaria cocktail en masse two days ago city-wide.

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Postby David » Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:27 pm

Derwood wrote:
David wrote:https://twitter.com/SenWarren/status/1243167825138798594?s=20


I understand the sentiment, but it will never happen. ~10 million people get the standard flu each year, and we know this because ~100,000 people are tested, and then they extrapolate the data. It's completely unrealistic to think that every single person will get tested


Read the thread
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Postby UMFan83 » Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:29 pm

OleMissCub wrote:Lots of stories like this emerging out of New York once they started prescribing the malaria cocktail en masse two days ago city-wide.



We should unfortunately be expecting lots of deaths coming out of New York in the next 2 weeks. If the number of deaths falls well short of those projections because of this, that would be amazing.
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Postby Cubfanintheknow » Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:52 pm

OleMissCub wrote:Lots of stories like this emerging out of New York once they started prescribing the malaria cocktail en masse two days ago city-wide.



This is likely being done with equal parts science and desperation.
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Postby JudasIscariotTheBird » Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:56 pm

Cubfanintheknow wrote:
OleMissCub wrote:Lots of stories like this emerging out of New York once they started prescribing the malaria cocktail en masse two days ago city-wide.



This is likely being done with equal parts science and desperation.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/tanyachen/kaiser-permanente-lupus-chloroquine
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Postby Soul » Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:12 pm

JudasIscariotTheBird wrote:
Cubfanintheknow wrote:
OleMissCub wrote:Lots of stories like this emerging out of New York once they started prescribing the malaria cocktail en masse two days ago city-wide.



This is likely being done with equal parts science and desperation.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/tanyachen/kaiser-permanente-lupus-chloroquine


Exactly. Lots of stories like this. Also, doctors writing prescriptions to hoard those drugs for family & friends.
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Postby David » Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:50 pm



i'm obviously on mike's side of this battle, but this seems more than a tad disingenuous, does it not?

a - 100% of the population isn't going to get it

b - even if they did, given the very limited testing thus far, that mortality rate is likely wayyyyyyyy lower.

is there even a worst case scenario imaginable in which anywhere close to 11M people would die from this thing? why even say that?
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Postby Bertz » Thu Mar 26, 2020 6:20 pm

David wrote:https://twitter.com/KenTremendous/status/1243230624741117952?s=20

i'm obviously on mike's side of this battle, but this seems more than a tad disingenuous, does it not?

a - 100% of the population isn't going to get it

b - even if they did, given the very limited testing thus far, that mortality rate is likely wayyyyyyyy lower.

is there even a worst case scenario imaginable in which anywhere close to 11M people would die from this thing? why even say that?


I think that Hammer and the Dance article that made its way around last weekend did a good job of laying out ~10M as the sort of upper bound.

Overall though yeah, I think because way too many people are being so flippant about this, there's some overcompensating in the other direction from some people. "Oh you went out for groceries twice this week? THANKS FOR LITERALLY KILLING MY GRANDMA"
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Postby David » Thu Mar 26, 2020 6:25 pm

Bertz wrote:
David wrote:https://twitter.com/KenTremendous/status/1243230624741117952?s=20

i'm obviously on mike's side of this battle, but this seems more than a tad disingenuous, does it not?

a - 100% of the population isn't going to get it

b - even if they did, given the very limited testing thus far, that mortality rate is likely wayyyyyyyy lower.

is there even a worst case scenario imaginable in which anywhere close to 11M people would die from this thing? why even say that?


I think that Hammer and the Dance article that made its way around last weekend did a good job of laying out ~10M as the sort of upper bound.

Overall though yeah, I think because way too many people are being so flippant about this, there's some overcompensating in the other direction from some people. "Oh you went out for groceries twice this week? THANKS FOR LITERALLY KILLING MY GRANDMA"


yep

and was that 10M worldwide? because i'm pretty sure he is saying 11M americans
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