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Postby jersey cubs fan » Thu Sep 03, 2020 3:47 pm

Hairyducked Idiot wrote:My first instinct was to say it’s a coincidence for North Dakota. Sturgis is like 500 miles from Fargo and Grand Forks, which is where most of the population is. Maybe an hour or two closer to Bismarck. It’s like saying Illinois got an outbreak because of an event slightly east of Pittsburgh.

But some of the people I still know in North Dakota insist that’s the cause and they’re better positioned than I to know


But what if half the population of Illinois went to that event slightly east of Pittsburgh?
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Postby entbird79 » Thu Sep 03, 2020 4:16 pm

I hope that abuck1220, Bob Sanders and others from Iowa are well. It's quite the horsefeathers show around here with cases skyrocketing, schools being forced to be open, and absolute negligence from leadership.
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Postby Ding Dong Johnson » Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:20 pm

entbird79 wrote:I hope that abuck1220, Bob Sanders and others from Iowa are well. It's quite the horsefeathers show around here with cases skyrocketing, schools being forced to be open, and absolute negligence from leadership.

I stay the horsefeathers away from everyone all the time under normal circumstances. It's my damn housemates that scare me because they'll talk to anyone. 6 months later I am still finding myself saying "you know we're still in the middle of a pandemic, right?" I'm hoping we're far enough removed from downtown Iowa City to stay safe for a while longer.

It's not just the schools being open, it's that they're full steam ahead on extra curriculars as well. The high school already had 2 confirmed cases the first week, but that didn't stop volleyball or football from happening.
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Postby abuck1220 » Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:41 pm

iowa state, located in one of the worst hot spots in the country, was going to allow 25,000 fans at their home opener next weekend. governor/2016 college graduate kim reynolds, not surprisingly, gave this idea her full support. no idea how or why (other than the obvious, of course), but the decision was reversed like a day later.
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Postby Derwood » Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:53 pm

Welp, we officially have cases on campus, with another 100+ quarantining as a precaution.
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Postby Banedon » Fri Sep 04, 2020 1:31 pm

Whelp.

The World Health Organization is “not expecting to see widespread vaccination [for coronavirus] until the middle of next year," spokesperson Margaret Harris told reporters in Geneva Friday.

There are currently 34 vaccines globally carrying out human trials, according to WHO, with 142 vaccine candidates currently in the pre-clinical trial phase.
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Postby Andy » Fri Sep 04, 2020 1:36 pm

Banedon wrote:Whelp.

The World Health Organization is “not expecting to see widespread vaccination [for coronavirus] until the middle of next year," spokesperson Margaret Harris told reporters in Geneva Friday.

There are currently 34 vaccines globally carrying out human trials, according to WHO, with 142 vaccine candidates currently in the pre-clinical trial phase.

It depends on how you read that but that doesn't come as a surprise to me. They could announce that the leading contenders that are in Phase 3 testing now all work, and it would still take a long time to actually get the vaccinations distributed and completed.
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Postby David » Fri Sep 04, 2020 1:39 pm

Banedon wrote:Whelp.

The World Health Organization is “not expecting to see widespread vaccination [for coronavirus] until the middle of next year," spokesperson Margaret Harris told reporters in Geneva Friday.

There are currently 34 vaccines globally carrying out human trials, according to WHO, with 142 vaccine candidates currently in the pre-clinical trial phase.


Is this even news?

Roll-out will start late this year or early next year, and yes, it'll take months for "widespread" vaccination to happen.
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Postby David » Fri Sep 04, 2020 1:39 pm

i love how the WHO just announces stuff we knew months ago and it becomes headline/tweet fodder
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Postby Bertz » Fri Sep 04, 2020 2:30 pm

"Widespread" and "middle" are also purposefully quite vague. Is widespread the point where nearly everyone who wants it has it? Or is it the point where enough people have it that things can go back to being reasonably normal? Is the middle of 2021 quite literally July, or would sometime in early Q2 count?

IMO it's basically a hedge because Trump is going to promise the moon leading up to the election.
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Postby Derwood » Fri Sep 04, 2020 2:42 pm

We also have no means of compelling people to actually take the vaccine. A large chunk of the "never-maskers" are going to be "never-vaxxers", and I don't know how many people need to NOT take the vaccine to dilute the efficacy of the drug
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Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Fri Sep 04, 2020 2:48 pm

Derwood wrote:A large chunk of the "never-maskers" are going to be "never-vaxxers", and I don't know how many people need to NOT take the vaccine to dilute the efficacy of the drug


What percent of the population do you think are "never-maskers"?
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Postby Bertz » Fri Sep 04, 2020 2:54 pm

Derwood wrote:We also have no means of compelling people to actually take the vaccine. A large chunk of the "never-maskers" are going to be "never-vaxxers", and I don't know how many people need to NOT take the vaccine to dilute the efficacy of the drug


I don't agree with the bold at all. I think a large number of jobs and schools will quite explicitly compel people to get the vaccine.
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Postby Ding Dong Johnson » Fri Sep 04, 2020 3:02 pm

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Derwood wrote:A large chunk of the "never-maskers" are going to be "never-vaxxers", and I don't know how many people need to NOT take the vaccine to dilute the efficacy of the drug


What percent of the population do you think are "never-maskers"?

I'd guess that number to be north of 10%.
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Postby Brian707 » Fri Sep 04, 2020 4:05 pm

Bertz wrote:
Derwood wrote:We also have no means of compelling people to actually take the vaccine. A large chunk of the "never-maskers" are going to be "never-vaxxers", and I don't know how many people need to NOT take the vaccine to dilute the efficacy of the drug


I don't agree with the bold at all. I think a large number of jobs and schools will quite explicitly compel people to get the vaccine.


They will use the religious freedom loophole like they have been for the past 20 years. At least for public schools
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Postby CubinNY » Fri Sep 04, 2020 4:34 pm

Brian707 wrote:
Bertz wrote:
Derwood wrote:We also have no means of compelling people to actually take the vaccine. A large chunk of the "never-maskers" are going to be "never-vaxxers", and I don't know how many people need to NOT take the vaccine to dilute the efficacy of the drug


I don't agree with the bold at all. I think a large number of jobs and schools will quite explicitly compel people to get the vaccine.


They will use the religious freedom loophole like they have been for the past 20 years. At least for public schools

That doesn't fly. We will not accept any child who does not have a vaccination record at my clinic.
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Postby Brian707 » Fri Sep 04, 2020 5:18 pm

CubinNY wrote:
Brian707 wrote:
Bertz wrote:
I don't agree with the bold at all. I think a large number of jobs and schools will quite explicitly compel people to get the vaccine.


They will use the religious freedom loophole like they have been for the past 20 years. At least for public schools

That doesn't fly. We will not accept any child who does not have a vaccination record at my clinic.



Right, my kids pediatrician tells everyone she does not want their kid to be a patient of hers if they refuse vaccinations. But public schools sadly have to allow for religious exemptions even if 99% of them are using it as a bogus excuse.
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Postby JudasIscariotTheBird » Fri Sep 04, 2020 5:21 pm

Brian707 wrote:
CubinNY wrote:
Brian707 wrote:
They will use the religious freedom loophole like they have been for the past 20 years. At least for public schools

That doesn't fly. We will not accept any child who does not have a vaccination record at my clinic.



Right, my kids pediatrician tells everyone she does not want their kid to be a patient of hers if they refuse vaccinations. But public schools sadly have to allow for religious exemptions even if 99% of them are using it as a bogus excuse.

Not necessarily true.
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Postby WrigleyField 22 » Fri Sep 04, 2020 5:25 pm

JudasIscariotTheBird wrote:
Brian707 wrote:
CubinNY wrote:That doesn't fly. We will not accept any child who does not have a vaccination record at my clinic.



Right, my kids pediatrician tells everyone she does not want their kid to be a patient of hers if they refuse vaccinations. But public schools sadly have to allow for religious exemptions even if 99% of them are using it as a bogus excuse.

Not necessarily true.

I think it just varies state by state. I know in IL it's pretty rigorous to prove its legit. Can't just claim it like you're Michael Scott declaring bankruptcy. I'm sure some states it is that easy.
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Postby Bertz » Fri Sep 04, 2020 6:06 pm

WrigleyField 22 wrote:
JudasIscariotTheBird wrote:
Brian707 wrote:

Right, my kids pediatrician tells everyone she does not want their kid to be a patient of hers if they refuse vaccinations. But public schools sadly have to allow for religious exemptions even if 99% of them are using it as a bogus excuse.

Not necessarily true.

I think it just varies state by state. I know in IL it's pretty rigorous to prove its legit. Can't just claim it like you're Michael Scott declaring bankruptcy. I'm sure some states it is that easy.


That's the thing. You *can* get out of it, but most of the people thumbing their noses up at masks/etc. Are doing it because they're selfish and it's inconvenient. If the options for continuing at your job/school are A) Spend 30 minutes going to CVS to get the shot or B) Spend hours on red tape, the vast majority of even diehard horsefeathers are gonna fold and go with A.
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Postby Ding Dong Johnson » Fri Sep 04, 2020 6:54 pm



Stripper governor's solution is not a mask mandate but rather go to school and maybe we'll raise the drinking age.
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Postby CubinNY » Fri Sep 04, 2020 7:05 pm

Ding Dong Johnson wrote:

Stripper governor's solution is not a mask mandate but rather go to school and maybe we'll raise the driving age.

Is all this nonsense having a political fall out? DeSantis in Florida is just now seeing his approval numbers in the low 40s.
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Postby CyHawk_Cub » Fri Sep 04, 2020 7:09 pm

Pretty sure Iowa is reliably red. Or, as a cousin of mine in DSM tells me: "the GOP here is trying their damnedest to turn Iowa into the Mississippi of the upper Midwest."
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Postby Ding Dong Johnson » Fri Sep 04, 2020 8:08 pm

Her approval ratings have taken a dive in the past few months, and I've even been seeing a lot of super red family and friends make fun of her regularly. Iowa is just like the US in that it's pretty blue where the people live but most of the counties are the darkest shade of red imaginable. If she were up for re-election this year instead of 2018, I'd wager she was a goner because she barely squeaked out a win then.
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