snoodmonger wrote:I still laugh about all the plot armor complaints when people have been unrealistically surviving horsefeathers the whole series. I mean Hard Home? Battle of the Bastards where they were being crushed to death by piles of corpses? That battle north of the wall where 6 people fought off the army of the dead? Tormund and the gang surviving the collapse of the wall? It seems crazy to me to have been fine with all that and then all the sudden start adjusting your glasses and being all [nerd voice], "Well, actually..."
All of these things are Benioff and Weiss. To be clear, I've never read the books, I've just felt a steady decline since season 5.
Chocolate Milk wrote:Let's not give Martin too much credit. He had a shadow baby directly kill one of the main claimants to the throne. Can you imagine if the show runners pulled that horsefeathers? The internet would melt down.
Agreed, that was stupid. If GRRM writes in the Beyond the Wall plotline, I will disavow everything positive I've ever said about him. That was the most egregious "let's figure out a way to make this cool thing happen" writing that is hallmark of terrible fiction.
jersey cubs fan wrote:yeah but the one thing great writers do is actually write