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Postby JudasIscariotTheBird » Mon May 20, 2019 3:08 am

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jersey cubs fan wrote:On what? The first half was good, the second half was unimaginably bad. Like worse than my worst fears.


In that case I’m genuinely asking you to explain why you hated the second half. I respect your GOT takes so I’d like to hear it.

I don’t know what else I can say. It was horrible. Bran? “Why else would I come this far?” Bronn? Just, I can’t express how terribly pathetic that writing was.

The first half had me intrigued. They were a bit heavy handed justifying the Dany meltdown, but ok. I was with it, then the Tyrion trial where everybody just decided to stop acting and the writers moved on to their confederate circle jerk.

My entire body deflated watching that scene and I was done. It tried to save it with a weak ass Jon rubs his dogs chin scene but no, that was beyond salvageable. I genuinely did not think it could be that bad.

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Re: Game of Thrones

Postby Hairyducked Idiot » Mon May 20, 2019 3:08 am

Start with the premise that Tyrion convinces the remaining great lords (and Brienne gets a vote for some reason?!) to name a king of his choosing.

If you listed every named character Tyrion had ever met, Bran would have been in the bottom 5% least logical to complete that scene.
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Postby WrigleyField 22 » Mon May 20, 2019 3:10 am

Would have been better if the NK just won.

This was a satisfactory way to end it though.

Waiting for the Arya West if Westeros spin off.
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Postby jersey cubs fan » Mon May 20, 2019 3:11 am

Hairyducked Idiot wrote:Start with the premise that Tyrion convinces the remaining great lords (and Brienne gets a vote for some reason?!) to name a king of his choosing.

If you listed every named character Tyrion had ever met, Bran would have been in the bottom 5% least logical to complete that scene.

It would have made more sense for him to nominate Brienne
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Postby Brian » Mon May 20, 2019 3:12 am

Robin Arryn: poster child for drinking breast milk till you're like 12
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Postby WrigleyField 22 » Mon May 20, 2019 3:13 am

jersey cubs fan wrote:
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jersey cubs fan wrote:I don’t know what else I can say. It was horrible. Bran? “Why else would I come this far?” Bronn? Just, I can’t express how terribly pathetic that writing was.

The first half had me intrigued. They were a bit heavy handed justifying the Dany meltdown, but ok. I was with it, then the Tyrion trial where everybody just decided to stop acting and the writers moved on to their confederate circle jerk.

My entire body deflated watching that scene and I was done. It tried to save it with a weak ass Jon rubs his dogs chin scene but no, that was beyond salvageable. I genuinely did not think it could be that bad.


I agree that the writing of the "meeting of the seven kingdoms" scene was pretty bad. But I'm not sure what all the better ways to end it would be. I'm down with the idea that someone besides Dany/Jon/Tyrion/Sansa ends up the ruler. I also like the North splitting off and doing their own thing
the one area that more or less was going it’s own thing, dorne, just decides to follow bran while the north decided to be free?

On the other hand, one of the 10 most powerful men in Westeros wasn't weened until he was a teenager, so it wasn't the brightest group to start with anyways.
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Re: Game of Thrones

Postby OleMissCub » Mon May 20, 2019 3:13 am

Hairyducked Idiot wrote:Start with the premise that Tyrion convinces the remaining great lords (and Brienne gets a vote for some reason?!) to name a king of his choosing.

If you listed every named character Tyrion had ever met, Bran would have been in the bottom 5% least logical to complete that scene.


I guess his conversation with Bran that happened off screen in Winterfell must have been illuminating.
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Postby WrigleyField 22 » Mon May 20, 2019 3:14 am

jersey cubs fan wrote:
Hairyducked Idiot wrote:Start with the premise that Tyrion convinces the remaining great lords (and Brienne gets a vote for some reason?!) to name a king of his choosing.

If you listed every named character Tyrion had ever met, Bran would have been in the bottom 5% least logical to complete that scene.

It would have made more sense for him to nominate Brienne

Westeros likes penises though.
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Postby OleMissCub » Mon May 20, 2019 3:16 am

Can’t they just recall Jon now that the Unsullied have sailed away?
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Postby WrigleyField 22 » Mon May 20, 2019 3:16 am

Seriously I was really worried when Sam started proposing democracy, so at least that was just a punch line.
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Re: Game of Thrones

Postby Irrelevant Dude » Mon May 20, 2019 3:16 am

Ok, let's rewrite the ending in 30 seconds...

Once Drogon sees that Dany has been killed, he goes on a tirade and torches everyone. The final scene ends with the melting of the iron throne, then Drogon flying into the horizon.

Better or worse than the actual ending?
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Re: Game of Thrones

Postby jersey cubs fan » Mon May 20, 2019 3:16 am

WrigleyField 22 wrote:
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Hairyducked Idiot wrote:Start with the premise that Tyrion convinces the remaining great lords (and Brienne gets a vote for some reason?!) to name a king of his choosing.

If you listed every named character Tyrion had ever met, Bran would have been in the bottom 5% least logical to complete that scene.

It would have made more sense for him to nominate Brienne

Westeros likes penises though.

Functioning ones.
A king needs an heir and Bran only had acorns
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Re: Game of Thrones

Postby jersey cubs fan » Mon May 20, 2019 3:18 am

WrigleyField 22 wrote:Seriously I was really worried when Sam started proposing democracy, so at least that was just a punch line.

This is true, I thought it could be a little worse than it was for a minute
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Postby OleMissCub » Mon May 20, 2019 3:18 am

I thought he wasn’t even Bran Stark anymore. Haven’t they been going on for several seasons now that Bran is essentially dead and he’s the 3ER now?
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Re: Game of Thrones

Postby Derwood » Mon May 20, 2019 3:18 am

OleMissCub wrote:Can’t they just recall Jon now that the Unsullied have sailed away?


Jon has decided to party hard with the Wildlings for the rest of his days
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Postby WrigleyField 22 » Mon May 20, 2019 3:18 am

Irrelevant Dude wrote:Ok, let's rewrite the ending in 30 seconds...

Once Drogon sees that Dany has been killed, he goes on a tirade and torches everyone. The final scene ends with the melting of the iron throne, then Drogon flying into the horizon.

Better or worse than the actual ending?

Worse. I'd rather take a stab at an epilogue type ending then literally just torching the whole thing cuz it was kind of a mess.
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Re: Game of Thrones

Postby WrigleyField 22 » Mon May 20, 2019 3:23 am

jersey cubs fan wrote:
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jersey cubs fan wrote:It would have made more sense for him to nominate Brienne

Westeros likes penises though.

Functioning ones.
A king needs an heir and Bran only had acorns

Well they technically quashed that with the little oligarchy they set up. Maybe it will eventually turn into the Roman empire where kings(emporers) adopt their heirs based on merit. They can probably milk 8 more seasons of drama getting to that point.

Obviously having Bran makes it easy for the fan happy ending of the North being independent since any other person would gave been like "nah" at Sansa's declaration
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Postby WrigleyField 22 » Mon May 20, 2019 3:26 am

OleMissCub wrote:Can’t they just recall Jon now that the Unsullied have sailed away?

Yea, that got waved off a little too easily.

Although they basically said Jon wasn't gonna bound by the old standards of the night watch. He just couldn't be king so that the "wheel was broke"
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Re: Game of Thrones

Postby WrigleyField 22 » Mon May 20, 2019 3:30 am

So I guess part of saving Jon in the negotiations was to avoid a revolt of the North, but they claimed their independence anyways (granted without a war).

Executing Jon, having the Unsullied peace out since justice was served, and having that be what spurned the North to revolt and claim independence would have made more sense from a realism angle right?
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Postby jersey cubs fan » Mon May 20, 2019 3:34 am

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Postby WrigleyField 22 » Mon May 20, 2019 3:37 am

Hairyducked Idiot wrote:Start with the premise that Tyrion convinces the remaining great lords (and Brienne gets a vote for some reason?!) to name a king of his choosing.

If you listed every named character Tyrion had ever met, Bran would have been in the bottom 5% least logical to complete that scene.

I mean half of those people there we either didn't know (what House was the guy next to Sam representing even?) or were bit characters.

These great lords left really aren't that great. If Jon was more motivated by power he could have easily bent everything to his will and I can't stop talking about how dumb Jon really is.

Davos and Sansa were like the only decent and smart people in that "powerful" group.

Also, Davos, go the back to your [expletive] wife and stop subjecting yourself to other men's problems! JFC.
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Re: Game of Thrones

Postby Brian » Mon May 20, 2019 3:41 am

jersey cubs fan wrote:https://twitter.com/anatescott/status/1130312559276494848?s=21


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Postby Hairyducked Idiot » Mon May 20, 2019 3:42 am

WrigleyField 22 wrote:
Hairyducked Idiot wrote:Start with the premise that Tyrion convinces the remaining great lords (and Brienne gets a vote for some reason?!) to name a king of his choosing.

If you listed every named character Tyrion had ever met, Bran would have been in the bottom 5% least logical to complete that scene.

I mean half of those people there we either didn't know (what House was the guy next to Sam representing even?) or were bit characters.

These great lords left really aren't that great. If Jon was more motivated by power he could have easily bent everything to his will and I can't stop talking about how dumb Jon really is.

Daavos and Sansa were like the only decent and smart people in that "powerful" group.

Also, Daavos, go the back to your [expletive] wife and stop subjecting yourself to other men's problems! JFC.


Sansa made infinitely more sense. He has seen that she is a competent leader and they have that weird rapport.

Davos would have made second most sense. Tyrion has actually worked with him.

After that, Asha, Brienne (my brother liked you, I guess?) both make sense before Bran from Tyrion’s point of view. And that’s just from the people who were both in the room and known to Tyrion.
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