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Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 11:41 am
by Bearded_Beef
jersey cubs fan wrote:
jersey cubs fan wrote:Gabrus and Clements talked about a series call The First Law trilogy which I think I will have to check out


Its really, really good. I'd recommend reading the stand alone books that take place in the same world too.

Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 12:43 pm
by Banedon
Sammy Sofa wrote:
Banedon wrote:
jersey cubs fan wrote:It's the guy who plays Jaime Lannister dressed like Jaime Lannister sitting and talking to the camera exactly like every behind the scenes cast interview that has ever happened for any show.


I thought it was maybe from the show, and I just didn't remember the scene, but yeah...should've at least realized that was Jamie, Sofa.


My mind is mildly blown that there's someone named "Jamie" on this show.

Look, I am actually intrigued by Bobo Aaron Eckhart's sassy smile and bitchin' hair. If you can assure me he doesn't meet a horrible end, then I might have to finally go back and at least watch a few more episodes.

Bonus points if he goes the full Oz since it's HBO.


Sorry, I forgot you didn't watch the show. It's more understandable considering that.

Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 1:09 pm
by SouthSideRyan
Sammy Sofa wrote:
17 Seconds wrote:watching sammy sofa act 2 cool for GoT is one of the most consistently baffling things on nsbb


As I've said, sci-fi/fantasy shows usually just don't hook me. It's got nothing to do with me inexplicably trying to not like it, because that would be just be weird and pointless.


Don’t you have 800 posts in the comics thread?

Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 1:22 pm
by Sammy Sofa
SouthSideRyan wrote:
Sammy Sofa wrote:
17 Seconds wrote:watching sammy sofa act 2 cool for GoT is one of the most consistently baffling things on nsbb


As I've said, sci-fi/fantasy shows usually just don't hook me. It's got nothing to do with me inexplicably trying to not like it, because that would be just be weird and pointless.


Don’t you have 800 posts in the comics thread?


Man, I wish that thread had that much activity.

For everyone who is just DYING to know:

I love comic books
Love superhero movies
I tend to enjoy sci-fi movies
Not a fan of fantasy movies
Don't like sci-fi or fantasy books at all
Usually don't like sci-fi or fantasy TV series (classic Star Trek and TNG are the big exceptions)

We contain multitudes!

Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 1:38 pm
by Derwood
Despite some obvious fantasy influences (dragons!) in GoT, it never felt like a fantasy series to me. The political intrigue far outweighs the fantasy

Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 1:42 pm
by Brian
three eyed raven was controlling everything from the beginning

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Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 1:42 pm
by Banedon
Derwood wrote:Despite some obvious fantasy influences (dragons!) in GoT, it never felt like a fantasy series to me. The political intrigue far outweighs the fantasy


Warriors, Priests, Wizards, Thieves/assassins, dragons, magic, monsters...really all that's missing are various races like elves. But we did have a halfling. It's very, very fantasy.

Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 1:44 pm
by Brian
Banedon wrote:
Derwood wrote:Despite some obvious fantasy influences (dragons!) in GoT, it never felt like a fantasy series to me. The political intrigue far outweighs the fantasy


Warriors, Priests, Wizards, Thieves/assassins, dragons, magic, monsters...really all that's missing are various races like elves. But we did have a halfling. It's very, very fantasy.


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Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 1:45 pm
by jersey cubs fan
Banedon wrote:
Derwood wrote:Despite some obvious fantasy influences (dragons!) in GoT, it never felt like a fantasy series to me. The political intrigue far outweighs the fantasy


Warriors, Priests, Wizards, Thieves/assassins, dragons, magic, monsters...really all that's missing are various races like elves. But we did have a halfling. It's very, very fantasy.

Warriors, Priests, thieves and assassins are fantasy?

Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 1:59 pm
by Banedon
jersey cubs fan wrote:
Banedon wrote:
Derwood wrote:Despite some obvious fantasy influences (dragons!) in GoT, it never felt like a fantasy series to me. The political intrigue far outweighs the fantasy


Warriors, Priests, Wizards, Thieves/assassins, dragons, magic, monsters...really all that's missing are various races like elves. But we did have a halfling. It's very, very fantasy.

Warriors, Priests, thieves and assassins are fantasy?


Those are pretty base classes in D&D.

Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 2:04 pm
by jersey cubs fan
Banedon wrote:
jersey cubs fan wrote:
Banedon wrote:
Warriors, Priests, Wizards, Thieves/assassins, dragons, magic, monsters...really all that's missing are various races like elves. But we did have a halfling. It's very, very fantasy.

Warriors, Priests, thieves and assassins are fantasy?


Those are pretty base classes in D&D.

They exist across loads of genres.

Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 2:12 pm
by jersey cubs fan

Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 2:16 pm
by Banedon
jersey cubs fan wrote:
Banedon wrote:
jersey cubs fan wrote:Warriors, Priests, thieves and assassins are fantasy?


Those are pretty base classes in D&D.

They exist across loads of genres.


Sure...that's why I listed more than those things. If you don't like those being included, forget em. Dragons, magic, monsters are probably enough. I just was pointing out the D&D classes were there as well.

Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 2:19 pm
by jersey cubs fan
Banedon wrote:
jersey cubs fan wrote:
Banedon wrote:
Those are pretty base classes in D&D.

They exist across loads of genres.


Sure...that's why I listed more than those things. If you don't like those being included, forget em. Dragons, magic, monsters are probably enough. I just was pointing out the D&D classes were there as well.


But the point was, all those most fantastical elements in the show were relatively limited, especially early on. That's why the show was a hit, because it showed humans doing human things and introduced small bits of fantasy along the way.

Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 4:15 pm
by WrigleyField 22
jersey cubs fan wrote:
Banedon wrote:
jersey cubs fan wrote:They exist across loads of genres.


Sure...that's why I listed more than those things. If you don't like those being included, forget em. Dragons, magic, monsters are probably enough. I just was pointing out the D&D classes were there as well.


But the point was, all those most fantastical elements in the show were relatively limited, especially early on. That's why the show was a hit, because it showed humans doing human things and introduced small bits of fantasy along the way.

And at closing, with Arya sailing away one direction, Drogon flying away the other... The major Lord of Light followers dead... The reanimated brings all dead... We were left with Bran/TER as the only mysticism left right?

Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 4:17 pm
by jersey cubs fan
WrigleyField 22 wrote:
jersey cubs fan wrote:
Banedon wrote:
Sure...that's why I listed more than those things. If you don't like those being included, forget em. Dragons, magic, monsters are probably enough. I just was pointing out the D&D classes were there as well.


But the point was, all those most fantastical elements in the show were relatively limited, especially early on. That's why the show was a hit, because it showed humans doing human things and introduced small bits of fantasy along the way.

And at closing, with Arya sailing away one direction, Drogon flying away the other... The major Lord of Light followers dead... The reanimated brings all dead... We were left with Bran/TER as the only mysticism left right?
also the fantasy that people of the reach would accept bronn as the lord of highgarden

Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 4:21 pm
by Brian
knifed in the heart Jon, though you can lump him in with Arya/Drogon as gone off in a 3rd direction

Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 4:25 pm
by WrigleyField 22
4 days later and I'm still mostly pissed about the mystery of what Davos' wife ever did to deserve this.

GO HOME TO YOUR WIFE AND LIVE THE REST OF YOUR LIFE IN PEACE MAN!

Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 4:30 pm
by Banedon
Oh, also Giants exist. That's pretty "fantasy".

Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 4:30 pm
by jersey cubs fan
Banedon wrote:Oh, also Giants exist.
not anymore

Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 4:31 pm
by minnesotacubsfan
Banedon wrote:Oh, also Giants exist. That's pretty "fantasy".


zombie giants for that matter

Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 4:39 pm
by Brian
WrigleyField 22 wrote:4 days later and I'm still mostly pissed about the mystery of what Davos' wife ever did to deserve this.

GO HOME TO YOUR WIFE AND LIVE THE REST OF YOUR LIFE IN PEACE MAN!


even in fictional worlds our heroes turn out to be dead beat husbands and dads

I think he's wanting to get those brothels up and running more than he let on, A Wiki of Ice and Fire on his wife -

She is a plump woman with sagging breasts and a kindly smile.

Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 4:45 pm
by OleMissCub
Sammy Sofa wrote:
17 Seconds wrote:watching sammy sofa act 2 cool for GoT is one of the most consistently baffling things on nsbb


As I've said, sci-fi/fantasy shows usually just don't hook me. It's got nothing to do with me inexplicably trying to not like it, because that would be just be weird and pointless.


I'd argue the first four seasons are more an analog for the War of the Roses than a Fantasy story. So you'd basically be watching a historical show about warring families in a 15th Century English setting. So it wouldn't be a fantasy story hooking you. What hooked people on GOT was the political intrigue of the feuding houses.

There are certainly fantasy elements sprinkled in, but I'd argue it doesn't become a fully invested Fantasy show until the later seasons. There aren't goblins or wizards with staffs and pointy hats or anything like that. I'm not sure what others on here would say, but aside from the presence of dragons, the fantasy elements in seasons 1-4 take up maybe 15 minutes of screentime. Hell, maybe even less.

You're really doing yourself a major disservice to not watch it. Like I said, just watch the first 4 seasons and then stop. Read the wiki entries for the remaining episodes if you want to know how it ends, but definitely watch seasons 1-4.

Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 4:49 pm
by SouthSideRyan
jersey cubs fan wrote:
Banedon wrote:Oh, also Giants exist.
not anymore


You don't know what's west of Westeros.

Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 4:50 pm
by OleMissCub
SouthSideRyan wrote:
jersey cubs fan wrote:
Banedon wrote:Oh, also Giants exist.
not anymore


You don't know what's west of Westeros.


Essos.

Hell, didn't Euron already sail around the world?