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Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 5:06 pm
by WrigleyField 22
SouthSideRyan wrote:
jersey cubs fan wrote:
Banedon wrote:Oh, also Giants exist.
not anymore


You don't know what's west of Westeros.

USA.

Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 5:12 pm
by jersey cubs fan
SouthSideRyan wrote:
jersey cubs fan wrote:
Banedon wrote:Oh, also Giants exist.
not anymore


You don't know what's west of Westeros.

Neither the New York Football Giants nor San Francisco Giants were yet in existence at the time of Arya's sailing.

It is known.

Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 11:01 pm
by evv98
Brian wrote:
WrigleyField 22 wrote:4 days later and I'm still mostly pissed about the mystery of what Davos' wife ever did to deserve this.

GO HOME TO YOUR WIFE AND LIVE THE REST OF YOUR LIFE IN PEACE MAN!


even in fictional worlds our heroes turn out to be dead beat husbands and dads

I think he's wanting to get those brothels up and running more than he let on, A Wiki of Ice and Fire on his wife -

She is a plump woman with sagging breasts and a kindly smile.


We are all Davos.

Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Fri May 24, 2019 6:19 pm
by snoodmonger
Derwood wrote:Despite some obvious fantasy influences (dragons!) in GoT, it never felt like a fantasy series to me. The political intrigue far outweighs the fantasy


I always chuckle when I read stuff like this because there were dragons, undead, little magical children of the forest, witches, shadow-babies, assassins who could wear other peoples' faces, little boys who could time-travel, warging... It's legit, full-fledged fantasy. I think mostly you have probably a pretty narrow view of what constitutes fantasy, which isn't uncommon. Not every fantasy book is elves and dwarves and orcs and wizards with pointy hats.

ETA: I missed many of the posts that followed this. But my point stands--fantasy is a very broad genre that does not always focus heavily on fantasy elements.

Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Fri May 24, 2019 6:25 pm
by snoodmonger
Sammy Sofa wrote:
SouthSideRyan wrote:
Sammy Sofa wrote:
As I've said, sci-fi/fantasy shows usually just don't hook me. It's got nothing to do with me inexplicably trying to not like it, because that would be just be weird and pointless.


Don’t you have 800 posts in the comics thread?


Man, I wish that thread had that much activity.

For everyone who is just DYING to know:

I love comic books
Love superhero movies
I tend to enjoy sci-fi movies
Not a fan of fantasy movies
Don't like sci-fi or fantasy books at all
Usually don't like sci-fi or fantasy TV series (classic Star Trek and TNG are the big exceptions)

We contain multitudes!


It's funny because I love sci-fi movies, but you couldn't pay me to read a sci-fi book.

Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Fri May 24, 2019 11:40 pm
by CubinNY
snoodmonger wrote:
Sammy Sofa wrote:
SouthSideRyan wrote:
Don’t you have 800 posts in the comics thread?


Man, I wish that thread had that much activity.

For everyone who is just DYING to know:

I love comic books
Love superhero movies
I tend to enjoy sci-fi movies
Not a fan of fantasy movies
Don't like sci-fi or fantasy books at all
Usually don't like sci-fi or fantasy TV series (classic Star Trek and TNG are the big exceptions)

We contain multitudes!


It's funny because I love sci-fi movies, but you couldn't pay me to read a sci-fi book.

I think it’s a a hard genre to get right. Most are just Western motifs set in some other place and time. Dune was a really good sci-fi book, Ray Bradbury wrote some really good sci-fi stories. Some of Kurt Vonnegut’s stories had a sci-fi feel. But in general, I agree.

Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Sat May 25, 2019 12:16 am
by Sammy Sofa
Yeah, the whole "true sci-fi" thing is a tough thing to crack, IMO. Like, I love comics, which are super sci-fi-y in a lot of ways, but it's ultimately the whole pulp aspects that win out for me overall.

Or how I love Blade Runner, but more how it's a noir with sci-fi elements. Or horsefeathering LOVE all things Star Wars, but that's more of a western-myth-fantasy-meets sci-fi monster. Even Star Trek is something I enjoy more because of the melodramatic character stuff that happens to have beeping and booping and technobabble around it.

I think the real thing just feels too cold and alienating to me.

Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Sat May 25, 2019 2:00 am
by Derwood
I get that. I’ve read “Foundation” a few times and never warmed to it enough to dig into the rest of the series.

Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Sat May 25, 2019 3:13 am
by cl smooth
neuromancer might be the only science fiction book i’ve enjoyed.

Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Sat May 25, 2019 8:21 pm
by Tim
I love a lot of sci-fi & fantasy.

But it's such a broad genre that I feel like saying that you don't like any of it is almost like saying you don't like literature.

Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Sat May 25, 2019 8:25 pm
by Sammy Sofa
Tim wrote:I love a lot of sci-fi & fantasy.

But it's such a broad genre that I feel like saying that you don't like any of it is almost like saying you don't like literature.


Nah. Walk into a library or a bookstore and take a look at the sci-fi fantasy section; that's what people are talking about.

To me, there's a pretty clear difference between fiction that has sci-fi or fantasy elements, and then all of that stuff.

Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Sun May 26, 2019 2:56 am
by OleMissCub
Bottom line in all of this is that Mojo just needs to put down his latest Criterion Collection Blu-Ray and watch Game of Thrones. And I’m serious when I say that you should just stop after Season 4.

Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Sun May 26, 2019 2:59 am
by Derwood
OleMissCub wrote: And I’m serious when I say that you should just stop after Season 4.


nah

Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Sun May 26, 2019 3:11 am
by WrigleyField 22
I could get behind a little bit of selective viewing post season 4 (or even before really), and filling in the rest with soem wikia entries to find out what happens.

But definitely some great TV viewing moments post season 4.

Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Sun May 26, 2019 3:22 am
by jersey cubs fan
Season 5-7 are much better than people remember.

Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Sun May 26, 2019 3:42 am
by JudasIscariotTheBird
jersey cubs fan wrote:Season 5-7 are much better than people remember.

Yeah, any season that has Ramsay is worth watching.

Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Sun May 26, 2019 4:03 am
by OleMissCub
jersey cubs fan wrote:Season 5-7 are much better than people remember.


Yes, perhaps I'm being unduly harsh, though the quality definitely drops after season 4, particularly in the dialogue.

Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Wed May 29, 2019 8:32 pm
by Brian
leaked footage of D&D's Star Wars movie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odEK_aLglUU

Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Wed May 29, 2019 8:56 pm
by BigSlick
Derwood wrote:
OleMissCub wrote: And I’m serious when I say that you should just stop after Season 4.


nah

Every season after 4 is bad, in some way. 5 is the worst, its just pure torture porn and nonsense, aside from Hardhome, which legitimately rules. Ramsay gets away with everything, Jon's storyline is garbage, the Stannis horsefeathers ends in the most hamfistedly rushed garbage way. It just sucks, completely.

6 picks up slightly, but is also full of dumb nonsense, but hits some good emotional beats with the Battle of the Bastards and the Sept Explosion, the latter of which was the last time the series was surprising or fulfilling at all. Jonathon Pryce does a lot of work here to keep the King's Landing stuff somewhat interesting, it adds a layer to the politicking but the showrunners can't really write that stuff as well as GRRM so its a bit of a mess.

7 is full of some REAL dumb nonsense, the worst being the 'Wight Hunt' and all the ludicrousness that occurs during that whole sequence, but it has the Dothraki and Dragons owning the horsefeathers out of some Lannisters and that was cool and i forgot basically everything else about it. I guess the Tyrell and Dornish armies just evaporate and the world starts learning about Euron and his magical teleporting unbeatable navy.

8 is when finally everyone realized it was complete horsefeathers. It all culminated in complete irredeemable horsefeathers.

Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Wed May 29, 2019 9:44 pm
by javy knows my name
BigSlick wrote:
Derwood wrote:
OleMissCub wrote: And I’m serious when I say that you should just stop after Season 4.


nah

Every season after 4 is bad, in some way. 5 is the worst, its just pure torture porn and nonsense, aside from Hardhome, which legitimately rules. Ramsay gets away with everything, Jon's storyline is garbage, the Stannis horsefeathers ends in the most hamfistedly rushed garbage way. It just sucks, completely.

6 picks up slightly, but is also full of dumb nonsense, but hits some good emotional beats with the Battle of the Bastards and the Sept Explosion, the latter of which was the last time the series was surprising or fulfilling at all. Jonathon Pryce does a lot of work here to keep the King's Landing stuff somewhat interesting, it adds a layer to the politicking but the showrunners can't really write that stuff as well as GRRM so its a bit of a mess.

7 is full of some REAL dumb nonsense, the worst being the 'Wight Hunt' and all the ludicrousness that occurs during that whole sequence, but it has the Dothraki and Dragons owning the horsefeathers out of some Lannisters and that was cool and i forgot basically everything else about it. I guess the Tyrell and Dornish armies just evaporate and the world starts learning about Euron and his magical teleporting unbeatable navy.

8 is when finally everyone realized it was complete horsefeathers. It all culminated in complete irredeemable horsefeathers.


I won't hear this about season 6. There are 4-5 legitimately excellent episodes in there including a top-5 of the series, winds of winter. You forgot hold the door, arya's cool stuff, hound is back, etc. I thought the faith militant stuff was dumb but their comeuppance was so good, it was worth them being lame and bad to the point where I'm rooting for Cersei. Then, of course, rooting for Cersei became horsefeathering awesome.

Agreed with the Season 5 hate. It's only watchable after episode 7
4, 3, 1, 2, 6, 7, 8, 5

Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Wed May 29, 2019 10:17 pm
by BigSlick
javy knows my name wrote:
BigSlick wrote:
Derwood wrote:
nah

Every season after 4 is bad, in some way. 5 is the worst, its just pure torture porn and nonsense, aside from Hardhome, which legitimately rules. Ramsay gets away with everything, Jon's storyline is garbage, the Stannis horsefeathers ends in the most hamfistedly rushed garbage way. It just sucks, completely.

6 picks up slightly, but is also full of dumb nonsense, but hits some good emotional beats with the Battle of the Bastards and the Sept Explosion, the latter of which was the last time the series was surprising or fulfilling at all. Jonathon Pryce does a lot of work here to keep the King's Landing stuff somewhat interesting, it adds a layer to the politicking but the showrunners can't really write that stuff as well as GRRM so its a bit of a mess.

7 is full of some REAL dumb nonsense, the worst being the 'Wight Hunt' and all the ludicrousness that occurs during that whole sequence, but it has the Dothraki and Dragons owning the horsefeathers out of some Lannisters and that was cool and i forgot basically everything else about it. I guess the Tyrell and Dornish armies just evaporate and the world starts learning about Euron and his magical teleporting unbeatable navy.

8 is when finally everyone realized it was complete horsefeathers. It all culminated in complete irredeemable horsefeathers.


I won't hear this about season 6. There are 4-5 legitimately excellent episodes in there including a top-5 of the series, winds of winter. You forgot hold the door, arya's cool stuff, hound is back, etc. I thought the faith militant stuff was dumb but their comeuppance was so good, it was worth them being lame and bad to the point where I'm rooting for Cersei. Then, of course, rooting for Cersei became horsefeathering awesome.

Agreed with the Season 5 hate. It's only watchable after episode 7
4, 3, 1, 2, 6, 7, 8, 5


Season 6 is definitely the dead cat bounce of the series, but it was on a downward trajectory. The Arya storyline, aside from the really fun stuff with the actors troupe was BAD. It was great to see the Blackfish on screen again and I enjoyed him interacting with Jaime, and then the Blackfish died on his way back to his home planet. But I did mostly enjoy it, despite the cracks in the edifice.

Jon and Sansa's storyline was great, the stuff in King's Landing was decent, I don't even remember what happened with Meereen...Tyrion made some jokes or something? Oh yeah, we got Dany recruiting the Dothraki, that was ok.

Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Wed May 29, 2019 10:41 pm
by javy knows my name
BigSlick wrote:
javy knows my name wrote:
BigSlick wrote:Every season after 4 is bad, in some way. 5 is the worst, its just pure torture porn and nonsense, aside from Hardhome, which legitimately rules. Ramsay gets away with everything, Jon's storyline is garbage, the Stannis horsefeathers ends in the most hamfistedly rushed garbage way. It just sucks, completely.

6 picks up slightly, but is also full of dumb nonsense, but hits some good emotional beats with the Battle of the Bastards and the Sept Explosion, the latter of which was the last time the series was surprising or fulfilling at all. Jonathon Pryce does a lot of work here to keep the King's Landing stuff somewhat interesting, it adds a layer to the politicking but the showrunners can't really write that stuff as well as GRRM so its a bit of a mess.

7 is full of some REAL dumb nonsense, the worst being the 'Wight Hunt' and all the ludicrousness that occurs during that whole sequence, but it has the Dothraki and Dragons owning the horsefeathers out of some Lannisters and that was cool and i forgot basically everything else about it. I guess the Tyrell and Dornish armies just evaporate and the world starts learning about Euron and his magical teleporting unbeatable navy.

8 is when finally everyone realized it was complete horsefeathers. It all culminated in complete irredeemable horsefeathers.


I won't hear this about season 6. There are 4-5 legitimately excellent episodes in there including a top-5 of the series, winds of winter. You forgot hold the door, arya's cool stuff, hound is back, etc. I thought the faith militant stuff was dumb but their comeuppance was so good, it was worth them being lame and bad to the point where I'm rooting for Cersei. Then, of course, rooting for Cersei became horsefeathering awesome.

Agreed with the Season 5 hate. It's only watchable after episode 7
4, 3, 1, 2, 6, 7, 8, 5


Season 6 is definitely the dead cat bounce of the series, but it was on a downward trajectory. The Arya storyline, aside from the really fun stuff with the actors troupe was BAD. It was great to see the Blackfish on screen again and I enjoyed him interacting with Jaime, and then the Blackfish died on his way back to his home planet. But I did mostly enjoy it, despite the cracks in the edifice.

Jon and Sansa's storyline was great, the stuff in King's Landing was decent, I don't even remember what happened with Meereen...Tyrion made some jokes or something? Oh yeah, we got Dany recruiting the Dothraki, that was ok.


Dany also laid waste to the old masters' fleet with her fiery dragon dongs, it was dope. I forgot about the blackfish and jaime/brienne, that was cool, too. Awesome to finally see riverrun in the show and in the opening credits.

Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 4:54 am
by JudasIscariotTheBird
Because I like beatnig dead horses and can't let things go:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8U6kjqLkJQ

Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:37 pm
by Derwood
Brace yourselves.....a Game of Thrones prequel is filming

Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:58 pm
by OleMissCub
Derwood wrote:Brace yourselves.....a Game of Thrones prequel is filming


though technically a prequel in the true sense of the word, it seems almost silly to call it that since it is set thousands of years in the past. It will be interesting to see how the costumes and sets look. If you had a show set during the 1400's (the century that GOT is an analog for) and jumped back two thousand years you'd be a century or so older than the Persian Wars. So it'll be cool to see how the GOT universe looked a few thousand years back.