Old Style wrote: Sammy Sofa wrote:
Old Style wrote:How many of those are mass shootings?
What difference would that make?
Also, just saying "strict national gun laws" doesn't really work. What specific measures would you take?
This also would not "work," since we're just people on a message board. We've hashed and rehashed our own ideas to gun control in this thread and the other politics threads time and time and time again, since these sort of things keep happening time and time and time again. Simple defaulting to, "both sides are nuts; the 2nd Amendment says we can have guns, so what can you really do?"
is a FAR more egregious bout of wheel-spinning than what you're accusing everyone else is doing.
Nowhere did I say that.
And the mass shooting issue matters because strict gun control laws may lessen the individual shootings but someone crazy enough to go into a club and shoot up random people will likely go to whatever lengths necessary to get the guns needed for that. Also, America seems to have way more than the usual share of crazy MF'ers who go that route than a place like Australia. But before somebody accuses me of something I didn't say, I'M NOT USING ANY OF THIS AS A REASON AGAINST GUN LAWS. My only argument is that I don't think it's as easy as many of you seem to think it is. It seems like lawmakers in the country lost the ability to work together towards compromises on issues somewhere along the way. That just makes the other side dig their heels in even more refusing to budge an inch from their stance. That is a major problem.
America's not "more crazy;" we just have a horsefeathers ton more guns than everyone, hence more gun violence.
And nobody is saying this is an "easy" fix. Anyone who pays attention for more than two seconds would realize any changes in regards to gun violence would truly be a generational thing. I'm talking, like, 30-50 years to see real, widespread improvement, because, yeah, nobody's just up and wiping out most of the guns in one (or two or three) fell swoop.
So, again...what even is your point? That it's hard to enact actual gun control legislation? Yes, we know. But tossing out nonsense like, "lawmakers in the country lost the ability to work together towards compromises on issues somewhere along the way" makes it sound like there's people on both sides of the aisle looking to tackle the gun problem in America. There isn't. There is no compromise. The GOP has zero interest in any type of real gun control, and never have short of when it has been specifically targeted at, shocker, minorities. Trying to sweatily jerk the sad and floppy "both sides need to work together" schtick is completely empty, because one side is totally wrong and useless in regards to this issue.