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Re: Bears offseason

Postby WrigleyField 22 » Sat Mar 11, 2017 2:58 am

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WrigleyField 22 wrote:Poor metric to measure velocity IMO. You have to inspect the receivers handa for cross impressions to truely know how hard he threw it.
huh

Anyone else remember that classic early Madden (video game) commentary?
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Re: Bears offseason

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Postby We Got The Whole 9 » Sat Mar 11, 2017 3:15 am

WrigleyField 22 wrote:Interesting that there arent any details of the Wheaton contract yet. I dont even think years... ?

It's a 2 year deal and I think that's all we know. Probably 4-6 mil per?
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Re: Bears offseason

Postby WrigleyField 22 » Sat Mar 11, 2017 5:06 am

So apparently the Alshon Jeffery contract is only 9.5 guaranteed. The other 4.5 is incentives.

I'm pretty stunned honestly. Even if he was dead set on leaving Bears, that seems like a low offer.

His old WR coach, Groh is there. And maybe he's banking on that + Wentz getting his biggest payday?
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Re: Bears offseason

Postby WrigleyField 22 » Sat Mar 11, 2017 5:19 am

http://bearswire.usatoday.com/2017/03/1 ... ith-bears/
Marcus Cooper (ARI) visiting with the Bears. 23 starts and pro-bowl alternate in 2016. 6'2". PFF not a fan (101 ranked CB)

http://bearswire.usatoday.com/2017/03/1 ... sive-line/
Tom Compton (ATL), backup RT, expected to sign
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Re: Bears offseason

Postby David » Sat Mar 11, 2017 5:58 pm

Darius Butler is visiting with the Bears
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Re: Bears offseason

Postby WrigleyField 22 » Sat Mar 11, 2017 6:06 pm

David wrote:Darius Butler is visiting with the Bears

More of an inside/nickel I think.

They're clearly still active on DBs which is interesting considering the draft depth and our current depth. Wonder if Porter could be cut (~3m savings). Perhaps a Fuller trade for a late pick too. They seem to like LeBlanc amd Callahan even though both project as nickel/ST guys. And McManis has been a favorite for a long time as a ST contributor.
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Re: Bears offseason

Postby WrigleyField 22 » Sat Mar 11, 2017 10:02 pm

Also Christian Jones resigned today to a one year deal. They probably are done with the ILB group unless there is just a great draft value. Proabbly just will bring in some UDFA and Training Camp fodder).
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Re: Bears offseason

Postby davell » Sat Mar 11, 2017 10:03 pm

Jonathan Banks and Christian Jones were brought back.

Sidney Jones just tore his Achilles at his Pro Day. I would LOVE to see him fall to 36.
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Re: Bears offseason

Postby WrigleyField 22 » Sat Mar 11, 2017 10:21 pm

davell wrote:Jonathan Banks and Christian Jones were brought back.

Sidney Jones just tore his Achilles at his Pro Day. I would LOVE to see him fall to 36.

That's a pretty serious injury... you want that at 36? That's basically going to be a red shirt for him, right?
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Postby David » Sat Mar 11, 2017 10:26 pm

WrigleyField 22 wrote:
davell wrote:Jonathan Banks and Christian Jones were brought back.

Sidney Jones just tore his Achilles at his Pro Day. I would LOVE to see him fall to 36.

That's a pretty serious injury... you want that at 36? That's basically going to be a red shirt for him, right?

No way I'd use a 2nd round pick on a db with a torn Achilles
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Re: Bears offseason

Postby WrigleyField 22 » Sat Mar 11, 2017 10:29 pm

And Marcus Cooper a Bear. Fairly busy day all in all, and there are A LOT of DB's right now.

ETA- 3 year deal, so they probably figure him to be a pretty substantial part of the CB plans. I'm just waiting for the Kyle Fuller for a 2018 7th round pick trade...
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Re: Bears offseason

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Sat Mar 11, 2017 10:31 pm

davell wrote:Jonathan Banks and Christian Jones were brought back.

Sidney Jones just tore his Achilles at his Pro Day. I would LOVE to see him fall to 36.


Ugh. He's my favorite cornerback prospect in the draft, even more than the ones mocked in the top ten. I love those U-Dub corners (Trufant & Peters from the past and also Kevin King in this year's draft).
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Re: Bears offseason

Postby jumbo » Sat Mar 11, 2017 10:36 pm

WrigleyField 22 wrote:
David wrote:Darius Butler is visiting with the Bears

More of an inside/nickel I think.

They're clearly still active on DBs which is interesting considering the draft depth and our current depth. Wonder if Porter could be cut (~3m savings). Perhaps a Fuller trade for a late pick too. They seem to like LeBlanc amd Callahan even though both project as nickel/ST guys. And McManis has been a favorite for a long time as a ST contributor.


Let's see...
CB: Amukamara, Porter, Fuller, Hall, Callahan, LeBlanc, Glenn, Banks, McManis
Safety: Demps, Amos, Jones-Quartey, Hurst, Bush, Houston-Carson
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Re: Bears offseason

Postby davell » Sat Mar 11, 2017 10:37 pm

WrigleyField 22 wrote:
davell wrote:Jonathan Banks and Christian Jones were brought back.

Sidney Jones just tore his Achilles at his Pro Day. I would LOVE to see him fall to 36.

That's a pretty serious injury... you want that at 36? That's basically going to be a red shirt for him, right?



I'm not sure if it'd end his season or not. The one report says it'll take him into the season and drop him to Day 2. In the end, I want talent. I'd take the risk personally. If he lasts to the 3rd, even better.
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Re: Bears offseason

Postby Stannis » Sat Mar 11, 2017 10:48 pm

They seem to be collecting CBs. Which indicates they're taking a QB at 3.

However, with Jones getting hurt, a team desperate for a CB might trade up.
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Re: Bears offseason

Postby davell » Sat Mar 11, 2017 10:54 pm

Stannis wrote:They seem to be collecting CBs. Which indicates they're taking a QB at 3.

However, with Jones getting hurt, a team desperate for a CB might trade up.


They just had a second meeting with Jonathan Allen. While I agree that CB seems out at 3, I don't think it means anything as far as taking a QB there either.....I think Allen(if they aren't scared by the arthritis) or Adams is much more likely than a QB myself.....Or a trade down, if remotely possible.

And really like the Cooper move. Wonder if they're looking at Butler as a S?

Patterson visited today too.
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Re: Bears offseason

Postby jumbo » Sat Mar 11, 2017 11:02 pm

davell wrote:
Stannis wrote:They seem to be collecting CBs. Which indicates they're taking a QB at 3.

However, with Jones getting hurt, a team desperate for a CB might trade up.


They just had a second meeting with Jonathan Allen. While I agree that CB seems out at 3, I don't think it means anything as far as taking a QB there either.....I think Allen(if they aren't scared by the arthritis) or Adams is much more likely than a QB myself.....Or a trade down, if remotely possible.

And really like the Cooper move. Wonder if they're looking at Butler as a S?

Patterson visited today too.


I can't believe that they would risk another top pick by picking Allen who has known shoulder issues. In a vacuum, maybe you can say he's still the top talent and go with it. But after White's injuries and Floyd playing a half season it seems like a bad decision. They've seen the medicals, though, so maybe it's not that bad. If it's something that will be a problem 10 years from now, take Allen if you like him and don't look back.
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Re: Bears offseason

Postby WrigleyField 22 » Sat Mar 11, 2017 11:06 pm

davell wrote:
Stannis wrote:They seem to be collecting CBs. Which indicates they're taking a QB at 3.

However, with Jones getting hurt, a team desperate for a CB might trade up.


They just had a second meeting with Jonathan Allen. While I agree that CB seems out at 3, I don't think it means anything as far as taking a QB there either.....I think Allen(if they aren't scared by the arthritis) or Adams is much more likely than a QB myself.....Or a trade down, if remotely possible.

And really like the Cooper move. Wonder if they're looking at Butler as a S?

Patterson visited today too.

Agreed, I dont think it implicity means a QB. I hope it doesn't implicitly mean no CB either if thats BPA (whether Rd1 or 2). After all were talking about a couple vets on a 1 and 2 year deal, a failed first rounder, and a couple UDFA who are interesting but ultimately just guys..
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Re: Bears offseason

Postby WrigleyField 22 » Sat Mar 11, 2017 11:18 pm

Don't know who this is, but I'm suspicious. Lemming retweeted it and called it the Glennon effect lol

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Re: Bears offseason

Postby WrigleyField 22 » Sat Mar 11, 2017 11:35 pm

Sad sad local reporter struggling to find meaning in post Cutler world

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Re: Bears offseason

Postby WrigleyField 22 » Sun Mar 12, 2017 12:26 am

David wrote:

Best two years were with Loggains. WR and CB are looking crowded (albeit underwhelming) and Wheaton and Leblanc look like the only KR and PR options (assuming Royal is released).
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Re: Bears offseason

Postby Butterscup » Sun Mar 12, 2017 12:29 am

have there ever been this many 1 year deals for known name players across the league? strange offseason.
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Re: Bears offseason

Postby davell » Sun Mar 12, 2017 1:09 am

I know Pace is copying Theo now. He's just Feldmaning the horsefeathers out of players now.

I like the fact there's plenty of flexibility. I see what he's trying to accomplish. I just don't think this approach was a necessity.

At any rate, I can see the secondary being relatively solid. Definitely like the idea of taking a WR by the 4th now though......
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