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Postby Cubswin11 » Wed May 30, 2018 2:27 am

This is horsefeathering bizzare

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Re: 2017-2018 NBA Season

Postby Regular Show » Wed May 30, 2018 3:32 am

Cubswin11 wrote:This is horsefeathering bizzare



Damn, that story is pretty embarrassing. Those Twitter accounts all have to belong to Colangelo right?
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Re: 2017-2018 NBA Season

Postby Regular Show » Thu May 31, 2018 9:50 am

If you guys aren't keeping up with this story right now twitter is going wild over #BryanColangelo #BurnerAccount. So many great tweets lol. Too many...













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Re: 2017-2018 NBA Season

Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Thu May 31, 2018 2:44 pm

MJ FANS DON'T READ THIS
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MJ haters, hello

(be sure to read the whole thread)
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Re: 2017-2018 NBA Season

Postby UMFan83 » Thu May 31, 2018 3:05 pm

Read that when he first tweeted it...I enjoyed it even as an MJ fan.
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Re: 2017-2018 NBA Season

Postby illiniguy » Thu May 31, 2018 8:33 pm

I am confused why we are pretending that Scottie Pippen is in the same league as Wade though, seems like one hell of a stretch. Wade was much more talented and PER has Love as a much better player as well.
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Postby Sammy Sofa » Thu May 31, 2018 9:13 pm

Is Basketball Reference worth a damn? Because they have Pippen as obviously better than both (I mean, Love? Come on).
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Re: 2017-2018 NBA Season

Postby illiniguy » Thu May 31, 2018 11:05 pm

Sammy Sofa wrote:Is Basketball Reference worth a damn? Because they have Pippen as obviously better than both (I mean, Love? Come on).

Love was really, really good pre LeBron. I think LeBron kills post players on his team, ask Bosh. Having watched both, I don't think Pippen is in the same world as Wade.
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Postby SouthSideRyan » Thu May 31, 2018 11:09 pm

Ask Bosh what? What’s it like to go from being the focus of an offense to the third option?
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Re: 2017-2018 NBA Season

Postby Sammy Sofa » Thu May 31, 2018 11:15 pm

Again, I don't know what BasR's rep is, but going by them Love has managed to have one peak Pippen-level season so far. And they seemingly have Pippen, at worst, being only a bit better than Wade.
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Re: 2017-2018 NBA Season

Postby Splendid Splinter » Fri Jun 01, 2018 1:34 am

Sammy Sofa wrote:Again, I don't know what BasR's rep is, but going by them Love has managed to have one peak Pippen-level season so far. And they seemingly have Pippen, at worst, being only a bit better than Wade.


What are you looking at? I'm looking at those three and it looks like Pippen is the worst of the three. Love is better when you look at per minute rates. Love missed quite a bit of games in his career already. Pippen has better total # cuz he played more games. Wade is easily better than those 2.
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Postby Sammy Sofa » Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:16 am

That's why I keep asking if BR's numbers are any good; they seemingly have these cumulative rating and value stats, but are they just bunk at this point?

From a purely subjective meatball standpoint, I picked half a dozen "best NBA players of all time" lists from within the last two years byt recognizable sites/magazines/channels, and literally all of them, oddly, had Wade and Pippen at about 25-24, with Pippen coming out just ahead.
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Postby Splendid Splinter » Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:18 am

Sammy Sofa wrote:That's why I keep asking if BR's numbers are any good; they seemingly have these cumulative rating and value stats, but are they just bunk at this point?

From a purely subjective meatball standpoint, I picked half a dozen "best NBA players of all time" lists from within the last two years byt recognizable sites/magazines/channels, and literally all of them, oddly, had Wade and Pippen at about 25-24, with Pippen coming out just ahead.


Hard to say really. It's the site I go to cuz it has everything. I'm not sure where else to go for advanced metrics? Is there a NBA fangraphs website out there yet? There's landofbasketball.com, but I haven't check it out enough yet. I don't think they have figured out the advanced metrics yet as it's still "new" compared to MLB, but It's not complete bunk either.

I like PER, WS/48, and BPM when I'm comparing players. It's more rates based for comparsion, but NBA is more suited for that than MLB imo because how do you compare a guy who plays 82 games/37 mins a game (Lebron) and a guy who play 51 games/32 mins (Curry) or 63/30 (Embiid) as an example?

WS/VORP is fine if you're just looking at career total as a quick glance type of thing.

I think people will rank Wade ahead of Pippen as time goes on.
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Re: 2017-2018 NBA Season

Postby 17 Seconds » Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:20 am

he is the best of all time
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Re: 2017-2018 NBA Season

Postby soccer10k » Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:23 am

I really, really don't like that they can review block/charges for whether or not the guy is moving now. Whether or not he's in the restricted area is fine. That's black or white and a quick review. But whether he's set is a judgement. You can't review that but not other foul calls.
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Postby soccer10k » Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:28 am

My god JR is an idiot.
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Re: 2017-2018 NBA Season

Postby Splendid Splinter » Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:29 am

soccer10k wrote:My god JR is an idiot.


That's an understatement and he had an easy put back too. Lol
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Re: 2017-2018 NBA Season

Postby 17 Seconds » Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:29 am

how many breaks do the warriors need to win a title
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Re: 2017-2018 NBA Season

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:35 am

Holy horsefeathers, JR.
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Re: 2017-2018 NBA Season

Postby 17 Seconds » Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:37 am

that is a historic blunder
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Re: 2017-2018 NBA Season

Postby Splendid Splinter » Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:39 am

Here's another thing I don't get. Why isn't LeBron on the block on that FT? I get it if in case of a fast transition to maybe win, but 4.7 secs left and iirc Warriors had a timeout left.
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Re: 2017-2018 NBA Season

Postby 17 Seconds » Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:41 am

i wonder if mojo had fun watching one of the best performances in finals history rendered completely meaningless by a pointless series
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Re: 2017-2018 NBA Season

Postby Sammy Sofa » Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:44 am

17 Seconds wrote:i wonder if mojo had fun watching one of the best performances in finals history rendered completely meaningless by a pointless series


Yes, I enjoyed watching this awesome basketball game very much, thanks for asking.
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Re: 2017-2018 NBA Season

Postby David » Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:46 am

lmfao JR
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Re: 2017-2018 NBA Season

Postby 17 Seconds » Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:52 am

Sammy Sofa wrote:
17 Seconds wrote:i wonder if mojo had fun watching one of the best performances in finals history rendered completely meaningless by a pointless series


Yes, I enjoyed watching this awesome basketball game very much, thanks for asking.


well the game itself was fun, but imagine if it actually meant something
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