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Re: 2017-18 Bulls Thread - Fly the Tank W

Postby Regular Show » Fri Jun 22, 2018 2:00 am

Not happy with the Carter pick, but very happy getting Hutchison at 22. I think they'll both develop into solid players, but they'll never be All-Stars or even the best players on this Bulls team.

EDIT: Shoutout to Cubswin11, who pointed out Chandler Hutchison a couple months as a player he liked. I watched some video and liked him after watching some games/highlight videos/interviews. Good pick.
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Re: 2017-18 Bulls Thread - Fly the Tank W

Postby WrigleyField 22 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 2:12 am

The "core" (age)

Dunn (24)
Lavine (23)
Hutchinson (22)
Markannen (21)
Carter Jr (19)
Portis (23)

Need some luck next draft still...
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Re: 2017-18 Bulls Thread - Fly the Tank W

Postby davell » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:08 am

The fact they're doing a press conference NOW, instead of trying to add a 2nd rounder, when plenty of solid players are still out there, pisses me off to no end.
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Re: 2017-18 Bulls Thread - Fly the Tank W

Postby Regular Show » Fri Jun 22, 2018 4:54 am



I don't agree with the comp, but it sucks that there might be some truth to this...
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Re: 2017-18 Bulls Thread - Fly the Tank W

Postby davell » Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:55 am



Oops.
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Re: 2017-18 Bulls Thread - Fly the Tank W

Postby UMFan83 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 12:07 pm

davell wrote:The fact they're doing a press conference NOW, instead of trying to add a 2nd rounder, when plenty of solid players are still out there, pisses me off to no end.


Right? Do your damn jobs
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Re: 2017-18 Bulls Thread - Fly the Tank W

Postby Derwood » Fri Jun 22, 2018 12:07 pm

Happy to see Tony Carr get drafted. No idea how much playing time he'll get, but it's cool to see a Penn State guy get his name called
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Re: 2017-18 Bulls Thread - Fly the Tank W

Postby David » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:51 pm

Derwood wrote:Happy to see Tony Carr get drafted. No idea how much playing time he'll get, but it's cool to see a Penn State guy get his name called


horsefeathers Penn State
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Re: 2017-18 Bulls Thread - Fly the Tank W

Postby David » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:54 pm

Regular Show wrote:

I don't agree with the comp, but it sucks that there might be some truth to this...


Carlos Boozer was a very good player, especially at his peak with Utah. I'd be more than happy if that were his outcome. That said, it's kind of a weird comp IMO from what I can gather.

The comment about the 2010-11 Bulls is pretty weird considering that team had a superstar DRose and probably could've gotten past any non-Heatles team in the East, including the later LeBron Cavs teams. That team legit could've won a title in a non-superteam NBA.
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Re: 2017-18 Bulls Thread - Fly the Tank W

Postby Derwood » Fri Jun 22, 2018 2:10 pm

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Derwood wrote:Happy to see Tony Carr get drafted. No idea how much playing time he'll get, but it's cool to see a Penn State guy get his name called


horsefeathers Penn State


awesome, good post.
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Re: 2017-18 Bulls Thread - Fly the Tank W

Postby UMFan83 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 2:12 pm

David wrote:
Regular Show wrote:

I don't agree with the comp, but it sucks that there might be some truth to this...


Carlos Boozer was a very good player, especially at his peak with Utah. I'd be more than happy if that were his outcome. That said, it's kind of a weird comp IMO from what I can gather.

The comment about the 2010-11 Bulls is pretty weird considering that team had a superstar DRose and probably could've gotten past any non-Heatles team in the East, including the later LeBron Cavs teams. That team legit could've won a title in a non-superteam NBA.


It's a weird comp because I'm pretty sure WCJ is not a paper bag on defense. He's also taller and has a longer wingspan than Boozer. I can see the offensive game comps though.
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Re: 2017-18 Bulls Thread - Fly the Tank W

Postby davell » Fri Jun 22, 2018 2:41 pm

Not that either is a great comp, but if I'm comparing WCJ to a former Duke/Bulls guy, I'd say he's closer to Brand, than Boozer.

That said, neither are great comps. But, Carter can become an excellent player in the NBA.
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Re: 2017-18 Bulls Thread - Fly the Tank W

Postby ChiCubsFan » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:30 pm

I think the comp is bad. But being comped to a 2 time all star isn’t the worst thing ever. And the comp comes from the offense, which Boozer was pretty good at for most of his career. WCJ’s defense is going to be very solid IMO.
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Re: 2017-18 Bulls Thread - Fly the Tank W

Postby WrigleyField 22 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:37 pm

Yea, comps are dumb anyways, but a Boozer like career value would beat the average number 7 pick.
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David wrote:
Regular Show wrote:

I don't agree with the comp, but it sucks that there might be some truth to this...


Carlos Boozer was a very good player, especially at his peak with Utah. I'd be more than happy if that were his outcome. That said, it's kind of a weird comp IMO from what I can gather.

The comment about the 2010-11 Bulls is pretty weird considering that team had a superstar DRose and probably could've gotten past any non-Heatles team in the East, including the later LeBron Cavs teams. That team legit could've won a title in a non-superteam NBA.


billups comps were horsefeathering bonkers all night.
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Re: 2017-18 Bulls Thread - Fly the Tank W

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David wrote:
Regular Show wrote:

I don't agree with the comp, but it sucks that there might be some truth to this...


Carlos Boozer was a very good player, especially at his peak with Utah. I'd be more than happy if that were his outcome. That said, it's kind of a weird comp IMO from what I can gather.

The comment about the 2010-11 Bulls is pretty weird considering that team had a superstar DRose and probably could've gotten past any non-Heatles team in the East, including the later LeBron Cavs teams. That team legit could've won a title in a non-superteam NBA.


billups comps were horsefeathering bonkers all night.


They were laughable. Almost every single one of them.
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Re: 2017-18 Bulls Thread - Fly the Tank W

Postby WrigleyField 22 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:08 pm

rawaction wrote:
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David wrote:
Carlos Boozer was a very good player, especially at his peak with Utah. I'd be more than happy if that were his outcome. That said, it's kind of a weird comp IMO from what I can gather.

The comment about the 2010-11 Bulls is pretty weird considering that team had a superstar DRose and probably could've gotten past any non-Heatles team in the East, including the later LeBron Cavs teams. That team legit could've won a title in a non-superteam NBA.


billups comps were horsefeathering bonkers all night.


They were laughable. Almost every single one of them.

I liked all the ones where he stressed that his comp was specifically a young version of a player. MPJ is a YOUNG Durant. Lonnie Walker is a YOUNG DWade. I'm not sure what point he was trying to stress?
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Re: 2017-18 Bulls Thread - Fly the Tank W

Postby itisallpartoftheplan » Tue Jun 26, 2018 5:30 pm

Gar Forman got 2 2nd place votes for Executive of the Year
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Postby UMFan83 » Tue Jun 26, 2018 5:53 pm

itisallpartoftheplan wrote:Gar Forman got 2 2nd place votes for Executive of the Year


Remember when he actually won EOY?
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Re: 2017-18 Bulls Thread - Fly the Tank W

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itisallpartoftheplan wrote:Gar Forman got 2 2nd place votes for Executive of the Year


Remember when he actually won EOY?


Seems like a lifetime ago...but it was probably due to the Keith Bogans signing that almost put us on the mountain top.
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Re: 2017-18 Bulls Thread - Fly the Tank W

Postby UMFan83 » Sat Jul 07, 2018 12:01 am



I wanted to bring him back. I’m not sold on him but I think he is better than he played so close to his ACL surgery. $20m a year is too much for me though
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Re: 2017-18 Bulls Thread - Fly the Tank W

Postby Andy » Sat Jul 07, 2018 12:24 am

If the Bulls match, the ceiling for this rebuild will be exactly where they were when they decided to rebuild.
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Re: 2017-18 Bulls Thread - Fly the Tank W

Postby davell » Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:11 am

I think I want him back at 4/80. Reasons as follows.....

1) He's got upside, but is far away from it. So, he's technically helping the tank for another year or two.
2) Cap goes up 9 mill per each of the next 2 years. You'll still have the ability to add 2 max guys, even with this, with a bit of maneuvering.
3) You don't do this, these guys will spend cap space on vets that scrap their way to 37 wins next year OR sign Jabari to a panic offer sheet. Keeping LaVine protects them from themselves.
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Postby UMFan83 » Sat Jul 07, 2018 2:05 am

Bulls already matched....
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Re: 2017-18 Bulls Thread - Fly the Tank W

Postby rawaction » Sat Jul 07, 2018 3:01 am

With this contract, LaVine will NOT be in the top 40 highest paid players, which seems fair. He's getting paid about the same as George Hill which sounds like a steal. But he's also getting about the same as Jimmy Butler, which makes Andy's statement as accurate as they come.
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