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Re: 2017-18 Bulls Thread - Fly the Tank W

Postby UMFan83 » Sun Apr 01, 2018 10:09 pm

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davell wrote:Bulls up horsefeathering 12 on the Wizards, minus Wall, heading to the 4th. horsefeathers these idiots.


I get that it's annoying that they are messing up their draft position, but "tanking" is always a front office strategy, never a player strategy. The players are never going to lose on purpose.


Ahh good points, I never thought of it that way.
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Re: 2017-18 Bulls Thread - Fly the Tank W

Postby Derwood » Sun Apr 01, 2018 10:14 pm

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davell wrote:Bulls up horsefeathering 12 on the Wizards, minus Wall, heading to the 4th. horsefeathers these idiots.


I get that it's annoying that they are messing up their draft position, but "tanking" is always a front office strategy, never a player strategy. The players are never going to lose on purpose.


Ahh good points, I never thought of it that way.


Listen, I'm not pretending my statement isn't obvious. The only reason I even said anything was the "horsefeathers these idiots" part of davell's quote. Just rubbed me the wrong way.
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Re: 2017-18 Bulls Thread - Fly the Tank W

Postby davell » Sun Apr 01, 2018 10:38 pm

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I get that it's annoying that they are messing up their draft position, but "tanking" is always a front office strategy, never a player strategy. The players are never going to lose on purpose.


Ahh good points, I never thought of it that way.


Listen, I'm not pretending my statement isn't obvious. The only reason I even said anything was the "horsefeathers these idiots" part of davell's quote. Just rubbed me the wrong way.


Jesus, the players are the LEAST to blame. Its GarPax and in this case, Boylen, for lineup combos.

The Bulls HAVE played hard, I wish they didn't personally....

But the frustration is always directed at the FO.
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Re: 2017-18 Bulls Thread - Fly the Tank W

Postby Derwood » Sun Apr 01, 2018 10:51 pm

Then my bad....I misunderstood where your vitriol was aimed
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Re: 2017-18 Bulls Thread - Fly the Tank W

Postby davell » Sun Apr 01, 2018 11:42 pm

Derwood wrote:Then my bad....I misunderstood where your vitriol was aimed


Eh, I may have looked at the same. Its definitely frustrating watching them go 18-34 from 3, but its still up to our incompetent FO to come up with the lineup configurations to insure losses.

Lauri has back issues, he should be shut down. Especially since he's not getting minutes with LaVine or Dunn. Lots of things they could be doing, like getting Felicio 30-35 minutes a night.....

Too late now, we're looking at the 8th or 9th pick. When there was literally no reason they couldn't have had the 3rd or 4th.
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Re: 2017-18 Bulls Thread - Fly the Tank W

Postby Regular Show » Wed Apr 04, 2018 2:10 am

Damn it, the Bulls are winning again. Looks like they're gonna beat the Hornets. So aggravating...
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Re: 2017-18 Bulls Thread - Fly the Tank W

Postby UMFan83 » Wed Apr 04, 2018 2:13 am

Regular Show wrote:Damn it, the Bulls are winning again. Looks like they're gonna beat the Hornets. So aggravating...


I don’t even horsefeathering know half the players playing. Hopefully this means that Fred Hoiberg is suddenly an elite coach that can win no matter who plays for him
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Re: 2017-18 Bulls Thread - Fly the Tank W

Postby Regular Show » Wed Apr 04, 2018 2:16 am

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Regular Show wrote:Damn it, the Bulls are winning again. Looks like they're gonna beat the Hornets. So aggravating...


I don’t even horsefeathering know half the players playing. Hopefully this means that Fred Hoiberg is suddenly an elite coach that can win no matter who plays for him


We shut down Markkanen (like a smart team would do) for the season and we lose this game with all these no-name scrubs.

I will say the idea of Fred Hoiberg as an elite NBA coach is pretty damn funny.
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Re: 2017-18 Bulls Thread - Fly the Tank W

Postby davell » Wed Apr 04, 2018 2:17 am

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Regular Show wrote:Damn it, the Bulls are winning again. Looks like they're gonna beat the Hornets. So aggravating...


I don’t even horsefeathering know half the players playing. Hopefully this means that Fred Hoiberg is suddenly an elite coach that can win no matter who plays for him


He's out sick lol. No BS man.

Never mind. Guess he was back for this one lol. Saw Boylen giving out high fives and figured he was coaching again.
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Re: 2017-18 Bulls Thread - Fly the Tank W

Postby The_Achiever » Wed Apr 04, 2018 2:23 am

3 wins in a row, totally inexcusable.
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Re: 2017-18 Bulls Thread - Fly the Tank W

Postby ChiCubsFan » Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:45 am

Slim chance the Pels fall out of the playoffs. That would be a nice sonsolarion prize out of this otherwise abysmal final couple weeks. Ugh. We really should have shut down Lauri and gotten in the top 6.
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Re: 2017-18 Bulls Thread - Fly the Tank W

Postby SpongeWorthy » Fri Apr 06, 2018 4:45 pm

what happens to our pick if we finish with the same record as the knicks?
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Re: 2017-18 Bulls Thread - Fly the Tank W

Postby davell » Fri Apr 06, 2018 4:49 pm

SpongeWorthy wrote:what happens to our pick if we finish with the same record as the knicks?


Both get the same number of ping pong balls. No tie breakers involved.
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Re: 2017-18 Bulls Thread - Fly the Tank W

Postby David » Fri Apr 06, 2018 5:02 pm

ChiCubsFan wrote:Slim chance the Pels fall out of the playoffs. That would be a nice sonsolarion prize out of this otherwise abysmal final couple weeks. Ugh. We really should have shut down Lauri and gotten in the top 6.


as annoyed as i am with them blowing their draft position, lauri has been playing like a horsefeathering boss lately, so that's nice.
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Re: 2017-18 Bulls Thread - Fly the Tank W

Postby SouthSideRyan » Fri Apr 06, 2018 5:29 pm

davell wrote:
SpongeWorthy wrote:what happens to our pick if we finish with the same record as the knicks?


Both get the same number of ping pong balls. No tie breakers involved.


And a coin flip determines who gets what spot if neither get a top 3 spot.
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Re: 2017-18 Bulls Thread - Fly the Tank W

Postby ChiCubsFan » Sat Apr 07, 2018 12:48 am

Knicks up 13 at half. They’ll probably tank it away in the 2nd half though so not getting my hopes up. A Kings win tonight would be nice too if we can find a way to lose. Still an outside shot for top 6 if we can find a way to lose out. Not likely, though.

Why does the NBA lottery only give you a chance to move into the top 3? Why not have a lottery for all the picks? You’d certainly see at least somewhat less tanking.
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Re: 2017-18 Bulls Thread - Fly the Tank W

Postby Andy » Sat Apr 07, 2018 1:05 am

ChiCubsFan wrote:Knicks up 13 at half. They’ll probably tank it away in the 2nd half though so not getting my hopes up. A Kings win tonight would be nice too if we can find a way to lose. Still an outside shot for top 6 if we can find a way to lose out. Not likely, though.

Why does the NBA lottery only give you a chance to move into the top 3? Why not have a lottery for all the picks? You’d certainly see at least somewhat less tanking.

I've never really understood that either.
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Re: 2017-18 Bulls Thread - Fly the Tank W

Postby Regular Show » Sun Apr 08, 2018 7:40 am

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Re: 2017-18 Bulls Thread - Fly the Tank W

Postby rawaction » Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:09 am

Bulls lose a must-lose game and the Kings are up double digits on the Spurs late in the 3rd. Bulls can go from 8th to 6th in lottery odds tonight.
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Re: 2017-18 Bulls Thread - Fly the Tank W

Postby davell » Tue Apr 10, 2018 3:13 am

rawaction wrote:Bulls lose a must-lose game and the Kings are up double digits on the Spurs late in the 3rd. Bulls can go from 8th to 6th in lottery odds tonight.


Well, Kings kinged like always.

They do play Houston in Sacramento, to finish their season, in a game Houston likely is sitting a bunch of guys....

Granted, Bulls are at home playing a Detroit team that's playing for nothing and without Blake.
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Re: 2017-18 Bulls Thread - Fly the Tank W

Postby 17 Seconds » Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:48 am

so far so good
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Re: 2017-18 Bulls Thread - Fly the Tank W

Postby Regular Show » Thu Apr 12, 2018 3:23 am

So the Bulls lost and the Kings are winning. The Rockets are sitting all their starters so the Kings should take this game.

IF the Kings go on to win this game the Bulls will tie them in the standings. Remember if the Kings win this game...
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Re: 2017-18 Bulls Thread - Fly the Tank W

Postby ChiCubsFan » Thu Apr 12, 2018 4:16 am

:beg: please win, Kings and please win tiebreaker, Bulls
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Re: 2017-18 Bulls Thread - Fly the Tank W

Postby WrigleyField 22 » Thu Apr 12, 2018 4:30 am

Bulls will get 6th pick. Kings win lottery with 7th pick odds.
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Re: 2017-18 Bulls Thread - Fly the Tank W

Postby Regular Show » Thu Apr 12, 2018 4:43 am

So the Kings won and the Bulls finished the season tied with them in the standings.

From an article in The Athletic:

The sixth lottery spot has a 6.3 percent chance at the grand prize and a 21.4 percent chance at securing a top three pick. But the best-case scenario for the Bulls would be splitting the odds with the Kings, which the league does by taking the average of the total number of combinations for the positions each tied team occupies. In this case, the Bulls and Kings would share a 5.3 percent chance of winning the No. 1 pick and a 18.3 percent chance of landing a top-three selection.


So both the Kings and the Bulls will have about a ~5% chance at the #1 pick. Not great obviously, but the Bulls have had some lottery luck before...
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