Week 8 - Single digit passing attempts team vs. Old Man McGee

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Re: Week 8 - Single digit passing attempts team vs. Old Man McGee

Postby r_mack » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:12 pm

Stannis wrote:
r_mack wrote:Trubisky looks like Tim Tebow. 13-30? The WR's are bad but he's missing badly on throws.


he's a rookie. get the horsefeathers out of here.

Meanwhile, Deshaun Watson might be the NFL MVP
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Re: Week 8 - Single digit passing attempts team vs. Old Man McGee

Postby Stannis » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:13 pm

r_mack wrote:
Stannis wrote:
r_mack wrote:Trubisky looks like Tim Tebow. 13-30? The WR's are bad but he's missing badly on throws.


he's a rookie. get the horsefeathers out of here.

Meanwhile, Deshaun Watson might be the NFL MVP


you obviously haven't been around here for the watson breakdowns.
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Postby We Got The Whole 9 » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:14 pm

r_mack wrote:
Stannis wrote:
r_mack wrote:Trubisky looks like Tim Tebow. 13-30? The WR's are bad but he's missing badly on throws.


he's a rookie. get the horsefeathers out of here.

Meanwhile, Deshaun Watson might be the NFL MVP

And he has 6 targets better than anything the Bears have
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Re: Week 8 - Single digit passing attempts team vs. Old Man McGee

Postby Stannis » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:16 pm

Let me help you out.

David wrote:


There are four big numbers that tell the story to this point:

Fourth-highest percentage of negatively graded throws
Ninth-highest percentage of turnover-worthy plays
Lowest drop rate in the league by receivers, only two drops
Charged with four sacks, tied for seventh among quarterbacks

Watson is simply missing too many throws, as evidenced by an adjusted completion percentage of 66.1 percent that ranks 33rd out of 34 qualifiers. His completion percentage of 61.5 percent ranks 24th in the league, and that’s aided by his having only two drops all season. The four sacks charged to Watson (as opposed to blockers) were made even worse by two fumbles due to poor ball security, but those plays do not show up in his stats and they’re rarely separated out in other metrics.


more at the actual link
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Re: Week 8 - Single digit passing attempts team vs. Old Man McGee

Postby UMFan83 » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:18 pm

r_mack wrote:
Stannis wrote:
r_mack wrote:Trubisky looks like Tim Tebow. 13-30? The WR's are bad but he's missing badly on throws.


he's a rookie. get the horsefeathers out of here.

Meanwhile, Deshaun Watson might be the NFL MVP


youre right case settled. 3 year college starter with 4 receivers better than the Bears best WR has performed better after a handful of games mostly on his ability to throw 50/50 balls and have receivers that can catch them.
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Re: Week 8 - Single digit passing attempts team vs. Old Man McGee

Postby r_mack » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:18 pm

Stannis wrote:Let me help you out.

David wrote:


There are four big numbers that tell the story to this point:

Fourth-highest percentage of negatively graded throws
Ninth-highest percentage of turnover-worthy plays
Lowest drop rate in the league by receivers, only two drops
Charged with four sacks, tied for seventh among quarterbacks

Watson is simply missing too many throws, as evidenced by an adjusted completion percentage of 66.1 percent that ranks 33rd out of 34 qualifiers. His completion percentage of 61.5 percent ranks 24th in the league, and that’s aided by his having only two drops all season. The four sacks charged to Watson (as opposed to blockers) were made even worse by two fumbles due to poor ball security, but those plays do not show up in his stats and they’re rarely separated out in other metrics.


more at the actual link

Just threw a bomb to Will Fuller on his first pass in the toughest stadium to play in. Yes, he wouldn't nearly be good on the Bears but it's looking like the Bears screwed up.
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Re: Week 8 - Single digit passing attempts team vs. Old Man McGee

Postby Stannis » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:20 pm

r_mack wrote:
Stannis wrote:Let me help you out.

David wrote:



more at the actual link

Just threw a bomb to Will Fuller on his first past in the toughest stadium to play in. Yes, he wouldn't nearly be good on the Bears but it's looking like the Bears screwed up.


read the article. throwing bombs isn't what makes QB's good.
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Postby UMFan83 » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:20 pm

r_mack wrote:
Stannis wrote:Let me help you out.

David wrote:




more at the actual link

Just threw a bomb to Will Fuller on his first pass in the toughest stadium to play in. Yes, he wouldn't nearly be good on the Bears but it's looking like the Bears screwed up.


And now just threw a pick 6

How can you say it's looking like the bears screwed up when presented with a ton of stats that show his performance has benefitted from luck and playmakers not to mention you are drawing this conclusion based off a 4 games and comparing QBs that are in vastly different stages of their development.

If you want to argue that the Bears should have drafted Watson because he is more polished and maybe more of a sure thing to be at least serviceable in the NFL, then fine but that opinion was already determined before either stepped on the field and nothing we've seen so far makes a difference. I like the risk the Bears took and I think Mitch has shown me enough to make me because he has a higher upside than Watson.
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Postby r_mack » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:20 pm

And now Watson just threw a bad pick 6
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Re: Week 8 - Single digit passing attempts team vs. Old Man McGee

Postby David » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:20 pm

Pick 6 Watson like clockwork
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Re: Week 8 - Single digit passing attempts team vs. Old Man McGee

Postby SpongeWorthy » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:22 pm

please don't let this thread turn into some tired watson/trubisky tit-for-tat
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Postby Stannis » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:22 pm

and Mitch is a rookie in his 17th start above high school
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Re: Week 8 - Single digit passing attempts team vs. Old Man McGee

Postby SpongeWorthy » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:24 pm

Stannis wrote:and Mitch is a rookie in his 17th start above high school


I like everything about his skill set but this is a bug not a feature
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Re: Week 8 - Single digit passing attempts team vs. Old Man McGee

Postby Stannis » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:24 pm

r_mack wrote:And now Watson just threw a bad pick 6


like a rookie QB
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Postby jersey cubs fan » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:25 pm

Surrounding a "franchise" qb with these receivers is football malpractice.
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Re: Week 8 - Single digit passing attempts team vs. Old Man McGee

Postby Stannis » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:25 pm

SpongeWorthy wrote:
Stannis wrote:and Mitch is a rookie in his 17th start above high school


I like everything about his skill set but this is a bug not a feature


well, you can look at it from the development side or the scouting side. from the development side it's a reason, from the scouting side it's a big.
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Re: Week 8 - Single digit passing attempts team vs. Old Man McGee

Postby UMFan83 » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:25 pm

Stannis wrote:
r_mack wrote:
Stannis wrote:Let me help you out.


Just threw a bomb to Will Fuller on his first past in the toughest stadium to play in. Yes, he wouldn't nearly be good on the Bears but it's looking like the Bears screwed up.


read the article. throwing bombs isn't what makes QB's good.


Then read this article: http://uproxx.com/ksk/f-k-it-im-throwing-it-downfield/

Edit: geez it's been awhile since I've read that article and my worldview and tolerance for words in that article has changed. Maybe don't read it
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Re: Week 8 - Single digit passing attempts team vs. Old Man McGee

Postby SpongeWorthy » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:27 pm

jersey cubs fan wrote:Surrounding a "franchise" qb with these receivers is football malpractice.


i'm putting shaheen on my horsefeathers list if he doesn't develop some chemistry with mitch now that miller is out
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Postby UMFan83 » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:27 pm

Stannis wrote:
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Stannis wrote:and Mitch is a rookie in his 17th start above high school


I like everything about his skill set but this is a bug not a feature


well, you can look at it from the development side or the scouting side. from the development side it's a reason, from the scouting side it's a big.


If you are choosing the less developed QB, he should probably have the higher upside. I believe Mitch does.
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Re: Week 8 - Single digit passing attempts team vs. Old Man McGee

Postby jersey cubs fan » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:27 pm

Mitch is not good at finding the rare open receiver. This coaching staff and roster is probably going to waste whatever NFL skill he may have.
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Re: Week 8 - Single digit passing attempts team vs. Old Man McGee

Postby Stannis » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:28 pm

Wright played like absolute horsefeathers today. he blew routes, dropped passes, ran poor routes, etc.
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Re: Week 8 - Single digit passing attempts team vs. Old Man McGee

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SpongeWorthy wrote:
jersey cubs fan wrote:Surrounding a "franchise" qb with these receivers is football malpractice.


i'm putting shaheen on my horsefeathers list if he doesn't develop some chemistry with mitch now that miller is out


you forgot to mention the Miller pass was an absolute thing of beauty.
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Re: Week 8 - Single digit passing attempts team vs. Old Man McGee

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SpongeWorthy wrote:
jersey cubs fan wrote:Surrounding a "franchise" qb with these receivers is football malpractice.


i'm putting shaheen on my horsefeathers list if he doesn't develop some chemistry with mitch now that miller is out

Not fair putting a horsefeathers receiver on the horsefeathers list, he belongs no where else.
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Postby Stannis » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:29 pm

and if they count the TD, the Bears probably win.
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Re: Week 8 - Single digit passing attempts team vs. Old Man McGee

Postby Stannis » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:30 pm

jersey cubs fan wrote:Mitch is not good at finding the rare open receiver. This coaching staff and roster is probably going to waste whatever NFL skill he may have.


i'm really liking Payton right now to replace Fox.
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