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Postby minnesotacubsfan » Sun Nov 12, 2017 10:33 pm

Which would be week 2
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Re: Week 10: Packers @ Bears (-3.5) Noon FOX

Postby UMFan83 » Sun Nov 12, 2017 10:42 pm

17 of Fox’s 29 losses as a Bears coach have been by 1 score or less. That seems high.

Is it that bad teams usually make enough mistakes to consistently lose winnable games or do John Fox teams make too many critical errors to win very many close games?
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Postby minnesotacubsfan » Sun Nov 12, 2017 10:46 pm

UMFan83 wrote:17 of Fox’s 29 losses as a Bears coach have been by 1 score or less. That seems high.

Is it that bad teams usually make enough mistakes to consistently lose winnable games or do John Fox teams make too many critical errors to win very many close games?

Either way, he sucks
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Postby minnesotacubsfan » Sun Nov 12, 2017 10:47 pm

I mean i cant see a positive way to spin that
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Postby minnesotacubsfan » Sun Nov 12, 2017 10:49 pm

I’m all for a complete flip on the coaching staff. Get a young offensive play caller HC and a D guy who wants to play the 3-4 so we font have to complete revamp the D
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Postby WrigleyField 22 » Sun Nov 12, 2017 10:55 pm

minnesotacubsfan wrote:I’m all for a complete flip on the coaching staff. Get a young offensive play caller HC and a D guy who wants to play the 3-4 so we font have to complete revamp the D

I'm not worried about the front. I feel pretty certain Floyd, Hicks, McPhee, and Goldman can play in a 4-3 front. 50% of the time you're dropping a LB anyways and in a 42 front which is basically our nickel front with the difference if the ends are in a 2 PT or 3 PT stance.
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Postby WrigleyField 22 » Sun Nov 12, 2017 10:56 pm

minnesotacubsfan wrote:I mean i cant see a positive way to spin that

Yes, no positive way to spin 29 losses in a little over 2.5 years.

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8 of 12 wins also by one score or less. Generously call all 25 of those games toss ups and normalize to .500

16.5 - 23.5 record? Yay?
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Re: Week 10: Packers @ Bears (-3.5) Noon FOX

Postby r_mack » Mon Nov 13, 2017 12:39 am

minnesotacubsfan wrote:Im beginning to sour on Fangio.

He's so overrated
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Postby David » Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:12 am

i had completely forgotten that kevin matthews existed, but anyway, i'm taking it with an optimistic but huge grain of salt

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Postby minnesotacubsfan » Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:18 am

who is Kevin Matthews and why should anyone remember he existed?
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Postby David » Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:23 am

minnesotacubsfan wrote:who is Kevin Matthews and why should anyone remember he existed?


just a local radio guy who was popular 20-30 years ago. sort of a steve dahl type.

i wouldn't read much into his tweet. doubt it's true. but i'm still gonna hope.
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Postby UMFan83 » Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:26 am

David wrote:i had completely forgotten that kevin matthews existed, but anyway, i'm taking it with an optimistic but huge grain of salt



I don’t hate it but honestly what’s the point unless you are evaluating Fangio’s ability to be a head coach. I know there’s been some trashing on him after this one but he’s the only coach with any sort of remote potential to be an NFL ahead coach on the staff
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Postby David » Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:30 am

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David wrote:i had completely forgotten that kevin matthews existed, but anyway, i'm taking it with an optimistic but huge grain of salt



I don’t hate it but honestly what’s the point unless you are evaluating Fangio’s ability to be a head coach. I know there’s been some trashing on him after this one but he’s the only coach with any sort of remote potential to be an NFL ahead coach on the staff


lock in that firing asap...i don't want to risk them riding this schedule to 7 wins or something and that being sold as progress.
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Postby r_mack » Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:15 am

No chance Fox gets fired 10 weeks into the season unless they want to give Fangio a chance
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Postby minnesotacubsfan » Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:34 am

r_mack wrote:No chance Fox gets fired 10 weeks into the season unless they want to give Fangio a chance


Huh? Unless you are referring to Virginia and the boys general track of complacency and “dutifulness” towards supposed professionalism, wth is your reason for that? Pace gets that call
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Postby Hairyducked Idiot » Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:37 am

David wrote:
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David wrote:i had completely forgotten that kevin matthews existed, but anyway, i'm taking it with an optimistic but huge grain of salt



I don’t hate it but honestly what’s the point unless you are evaluating Fangio’s ability to be a head coach. I know there’s been some trashing on him after this one but he’s the only coach with any sort of remote potential to be an NFL ahead coach on the staff


lock in that firing asap...i don't want to risk them riding this schedule to 7 wins or something and that being sold as progress.


They were at home with the bye week against a decimated Packers team on a short week. I'm not super worried about winning too many games.
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Hairyducked Idiot wrote:
David wrote:
UMFan83 wrote:
I don’t hate it but honestly what’s the point unless you are evaluating Fangio’s ability to be a head coach. I know there’s been some trashing on him after this one but he’s the only coach with any sort of remote potential to be an NFL ahead coach on the staff


lock in that firing asap...i don't want to risk them riding this schedule to 7 wins or something and that being sold as progress.


They were at home with the bye week against a decimated Packers team on a short week. I'm not super worried about winning too many games.



Decimated? Have you seen the Bears injuries?
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minnesotacubsfan wrote:
Hairyducked Idiot wrote:
David wrote:
lock in that firing asap...i don't want to risk them riding this schedule to 7 wins or something and that being sold as progress.


They were at home with the bye week against a decimated Packers team on a short week. I'm not super worried about winning too many games.



Decimated? Have you seen the Bears injuries?


Yes. Another reason I'm not worried.
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Postby jersey cubs fan » Mon Nov 13, 2017 12:02 pm

This is starting to look a lot like the worst case scenario where we don't see anything out of mitch but we have to stay locked into him for a number of years anyway, and by extension a completely underwhelming Pace gets to keep his job despite zero results.
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Postby UMFan83 » Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:43 pm

"I think maybe on 50 times, like some people get to look at it, I think maybe you could see that," he said. "But on our look during the game, that wasn't really even discussed."


That explanation by Fox is such horsefeathers. Literally the first time i saw a replay i said “geez i hope they don’t call that a touchback”.
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Postby Thurman Merman » Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:18 pm

UMFan83 wrote:
"I think maybe on 50 times, like some people get to look at it, I think maybe you could see that," he said. "But on our look during the game, that wasn't really even discussed."


That explanation by Fox is such horsefeathers. Literally the first time i saw a replay i said “geez i hope they don’t call that a touchback”.


Yeah, especially since it just happened in another game only a couple weeks ago.
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Hairyducked Idiot wrote:
David wrote:
UMFan83 wrote:
I don’t hate it but honestly what’s the point unless you are evaluating Fangio’s ability to be a head coach. I know there’s been some trashing on him after this one but he’s the only coach with any sort of remote potential to be an NFL ahead coach on the staff


lock in that firing asap...i don't want to risk them riding this schedule to 7 wins or something and that being sold as progress.


They were at home with the bye week against a decimated Packers team on a short week. I'm not super worried about winning too many games.


kyle, let me introduce you to the nfl.
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Re: Week 10: Packers @ Bears (-3.5) Noon FOX

Postby Old Style » Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:54 pm

I know the Bears will never do it but Fox needs to be fired today. horsefeathering inexcusable loss yesterday. My fear is that they won't even fire him at the end of the season.
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Postby jersey cubs fan » Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:57 pm

David wrote:
Hairyducked Idiot wrote:
David wrote:
lock in that firing asap...i don't want to risk them riding this schedule to 7 wins or something and that being sold as progress.


They were at home with the bye week against a decimated Packers team on a short week. I'm not super worried about winning too many games.


kyle, let me introduce you to the nfl.

the league where horsefeathers teams struggle to win 4 games in a full season?
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