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Re: Bears 2018 Offseason: Matt Nagy Hired as Head Coach

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:02 pm
by David
Posting this only because I didn't realize this was the story behind the McGinnis embarrassment (also didn't know he had lined up Martz as his OC)

Then-Chairman Michael McCaskey did have a release sent out before a deal had been reached (actually, before negotiations had even started), and McGinnis was highly upset. But he did come in to Halas Hall that day and the two sides reached agreement on a four-year deal. But McGinnis walked away from the Bears for good the next day because of being asked to conceal from potential assistant coaches (which would have included Leslie Frazier and Mike Martz as his coordinators) that there was two-year buyout language in McGinnis’ contract, potentially making the deal just a two-year gig, something McGinnis believed his staff deserved to know before they took jobs and moved families to Chicago.


http://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/ ... ot-exactly

Re: Bears 2018 Offseason: Matt Nagy Hired as Head Coach

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 6:00 pm
by David


One of the reasons the Bears preferred Nagy over McDaniels is that Nagy was eager to take the job. But McDaniels, according to the Chicago Sun-Times, left the Bears with apprehensions about his willingness to leave the Patriots.

The Colts were reportedly very high on Nagy, and the Bears acted fast to hire him as soon as the Chiefs were out of the playoffs. That looks very smart now, as the Bears have their man and the Colts are still working a month later, on finding their next head coach.

Re: Bears 2018 Offseason: Matt Nagy Hired as Head Coach

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:28 pm
by minnesotacubsfan
David wrote:

One of the reasons the Bears preferred Nagy over McDaniels is that Nagy was eager to take the job. But McDaniels, according to the Chicago Sun-Times, left the Bears with apprehensions about his willingness to leave the Patriots.

The Colts were reportedly very high on Nagy, and the Bears acted fast to hire him as soon as the Chiefs were out of the playoffs. That looks very smart now, as the Bears have their man and the Colts are still working a month later, on finding their next head coach.


so, is McD feeling sheepish after the Denver experience or is he hoping to take over in NE eventually?

Re: Bears 2018 Offseason: Matt Nagy Hired as Head Coach

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:31 pm
by Cubswin11
minnesotacubsfan wrote:
David wrote:

One of the reasons the Bears preferred Nagy over McDaniels is that Nagy was eager to take the job. But McDaniels, according to the Chicago Sun-Times, left the Bears with apprehensions about his willingness to leave the Patriots.

The Colts were reportedly very high on Nagy, and the Bears acted fast to hire him as soon as the Chiefs were out of the playoffs. That looks very smart now, as the Bears have their man and the Colts are still working a month later, on finding their next head coach.


so, is McD feeling sheepish after the Denver experience or is he hoping to take over in NE eventually?

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Re: Bears 2018 Offseason: Matt Nagy Hired as Head Coach

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 12:02 am
by WrigleyField 22
David wrote:

One of the reasons the Bears preferred Nagy over McDaniels is that Nagy was eager to take the job. But McDaniels, according to the Chicago Sun-Times, left the Bears with apprehensions about his willingness to leave the Patriots.

The Colts were reportedly very high on Nagy, and the Bears acted fast to hire him as soon as the Chiefs were out of the playoffs. That looks very smart now, as the Bears have their man and the Colts are still working a month later, on finding their next head coach.

The underappreciated human element of GMing FTW.

Also, let's remember McDaniels had to create an excel spreadsheet to try and learn not to be a dick. Needs to go add some additional tabs

Re: Bears 2018 Offseason: Matt Nagy Hired as Head Coach

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:22 pm
by gflore34
Cubswin11 wrote:
minnesotacubsfan wrote:
David wrote:



so, is McD feeling sheepish after the Denver experience or is he hoping to take over in NE eventually?

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Perhaps he will end up with the NE Job but, karma's a bitch, wouldn't be surprised if the Colts, with their hire this year, are amongst the better AFC teams. And McDaniels ends up with one of the worse teams in the AFC, not completely unconceivable when one removes Brady, Gronkowski, amongst others from the NE roster.

Re: Bears 2018 Offseason: Matt Nagy Hired as Head Coach

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:54 pm
by David
you wouldn't be surprised if the colts are one of the better AFC teams?

i'd consider that pretty shocking, even by NFL standards.

Re: Bears 2018 Offseason: Matt Nagy Hired as Head Coach

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:09 pm
by gflore34
David wrote:you wouldn't be surprised if the colts are one of the better AFC teams?

i'd consider that pretty shocking, even by NFL standards.


Maybe not, just saying things have a way of coming back to bite you in the ass.

Re: Bears 2018 Offseason: Matt Nagy Hired as Head Coach

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:14 pm
by Cubswin11
gflore34 wrote:
Cubswin11 wrote:
minnesotacubsfan wrote:
so, is McD feeling sheepish after the Denver experience or is he hoping to take over in NE eventually?

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Perhaps he will end up with the NE Job but, karma's a bitch, wouldn't be surprised if the Colts, with their hire this year, are amongst the better AFC teams. And McDaniels ends up with one of the worse teams in the AFC, not completely unconceivable when one removes Brady, Gronkowski, amongst others from the NE roster.

They have a completely garbage roster and a QB who would be envious of Mark Prior’s shoulder health.

Re: Bears 2018 Offseason: Matt Nagy Hired as Head Coach

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:53 pm
by minnesotacubsfan
Yea, i dont buy the Colts love. But i also dont get McDs obscenity.

Re: Bears 2018 Offseason: Matt Nagy Hired as Head Coach

Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:23 pm
by UMFan83
PFF's top 101 players

2 Bears make the list:

32. ADRIAN AMOS, S, CHICAGO BEARS
Top 101 appearances: New entry

An extremely underrated player this season, Adrian Amos was excellent for the Chicago Bears all year even if his play was more consistently solid than spectacular. Amos had impressive PFF grades in coverage and against the run and was consistently in the right place at the right time for the Bears, making very few negative plays. Amos missed just six tackles all year from 76 attempts and notched just two fewer defensive stops than Minnesota’s Harrison Smith from 300 fewer snaps on the field.

PFF Elite Stat: Amos was 19th in tackling efficiency among safeties this season with a mark of 12.7.


87. AKIEM HICKS, DI, CHICAGO BEARS
Top 101 appearances: New entry

Akiem Hicks, Chicago Bears

Anytime you can rival Damon Harrison for run stop numbers, you are doing something special, and that’s exactly what Akiem Hicks did this year for the Chicago Bears. Hicks tied Harrison for the league lead among interior defenders with 44 defensive stops, and he generated his fair share of pass-rush with 49 total pressures.

PFF Elite Stat: Hicks finished second in run stops (37) among interior defenders.

Re: Bears 2018 Offseason: Matt Nagy Hired as Head Coach

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:04 am
by minnesotacubsfan
UMFan83 wrote:PFF's top 101 players

2 Bears make the list:

32. ADRIAN AMOS, S, CHICAGO BEARS
Top 101 appearances: New entry

An extremely underrated player this season, Adrian Amos was excellent for the Chicago Bears all year even if his play was more consistently solid than spectacular. Amos had impressive PFF grades in coverage and against the run and was consistently in the right place at the right time for the Bears, making very few negative plays. Amos missed just six tackles all year from 76 attempts and notched just two fewer defensive stops than Minnesota’s Harrison Smith from 300 fewer snaps on the field.

PFF Elite Stat: Amos was 19th in tackling efficiency among safeties this season with a mark of 12.7.


87. AKIEM HICKS, DI, CHICAGO BEARS
Top 101 appearances: New entry

Akiem Hicks, Chicago Bears

Anytime you can rival Damon Harrison for run stop numbers, you are doing something special, and that’s exactly what Akiem Hicks did this year for the Chicago Bears. Hicks tied Harrison for the league lead among interior defenders with 44 defensive stops, and he generated his fair share of pass-rush with 49 total pressures.

PFF Elite Stat: Hicks finished second in run stops (37) among interior defenders.



I love Amos, but that seems backwards between he and Hicks

Re: Bears 2018 Offseason: Matt Nagy Hired as Head Coach

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:43 am
by We Got The Whole 9
Hicks was an absolute animal and deserved DPOY votes if you tossed records aside

Re: Bears 2018 Offseason: Matt Nagy Hired as Head Coach

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 5:57 am
by WrigleyField 22
Bears v Ravens HOF game. Middle Linebacker HOF showdown.

Re: Bears 2018 Offseason: Matt Nagy Hired as Head Coach

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:32 am
by David

Re: Bears 2018 Offseason: Matt Nagy Hired as Head Coach

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:53 pm
by David

Re: Bears 2018 Offseason: Matt Nagy Hired as Head Coach

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 3:42 am
by davell


Have seen some speculation that Robinson gets franchised, but I'd love to add him. I'd take him over Landry easily.

Re: Bears 2018 Offseason: Matt Nagy Hired as Head Coach

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 4:31 am
by Butterscup
add em both

and why is Trey Burton highly coveted?

Re: RE: Re: Bears 2018 Offseason: Matt Nagy Hired as Head Coach

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 4:41 am
by We Got The Whole 9
Butterscup wrote:add em both

and why is Trey Burton highly coveted?
Athletic, young, familiar with the system, our TEs suck.

Re: Bears 2018 Offseason: Matt Nagy Hired as Head Coach

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 6:11 am
by TomtheBombadil
Butterscup wrote:add em both

and why is Trey Burton highly coveted?


http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/te

I want the Jets to sign him if they land Cousins but bet they'll probably spend closer to $10 million a year more on Jarvis Landry to do the same job.

Re: Bears 2018 Offseason: Matt Nagy Hired as Head Coach

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 4:32 pm
by minnesotacubsfan
davell wrote:https://twitter.com/NFLDraftBites/status/964701861218586624

Have seen some speculation that Robinson gets franchised, but I'd love to add him. I'd take him over Landry easily.



No way he isn’t franchised

Re: Bears 2018 Offseason: Matt Nagy Hired as Head Coach

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 6:07 pm
by UMFan83
davell wrote:https://twitter.com/NFLDraftBites/status/964701861218586624

Have seen some speculation that Robinson gets franchised, but I'd love to add him. I'd take him over Landry easily.


He had a disappointing year in 2016 (probably Bortles related) then tore his ACL. I feel like Landy is more of a sure bet but Robinson maybe a higher ceiling?

Re: Bears 2018 Offseason: Matt Nagy Hired as Head Coach

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 7:18 pm
by davell
UMFan83 wrote:
davell wrote:https://twitter.com/NFLDraftBites/status/964701861218586624

Have seen some speculation that Robinson gets franchised, but I'd love to add him. I'd take him over Landry easily.


He had a disappointing year in 2016 (probably Bortles related) then tore his ACL. I feel like Landy is more of a sure bet but Robinson maybe a higher ceiling?


Landry's speed bothers me, for the offense I'm thinking we're going to be running. He's a really good player, but 13-15 mill per for a guy not averaging 10 yards a catch seems too much.

Re: Bears 2018 Offseason: Matt Nagy Hired as Head Coach

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:23 am
by minnesotacubsfan
davell wrote:
UMFan83 wrote:
davell wrote:https://twitter.com/NFLDraftBites/status/964701861218586624

Have seen some speculation that Robinson gets franchised, but I'd love to add him. I'd take him over Landry easily.


He had a disappointing year in 2016 (probably Bortles related) then tore his ACL. I feel like Landy is more of a sure bet but Robinson maybe a higher ceiling?


Landry's speed bothers me, for the offense I'm thinking we're going to be running. He's a really good player, but 13-15 mill per for a guy not averaging 10 yards a catch seems too much.



I'm so horsefeathering desperate for a wr at this point i dont care

Re: Bears 2018 Offseason: Matt Nagy Hired as Head Coach

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:30 am
by Butterscup
i'm serious, sign both landry and robinson. get meredith back, draft an upside WR in the mid rounds, plus we get kevin white back for his 4th rookie season. solid.